Real Rowboats
Have been following the dinghy, Boss Boat, Bullfrog etc debate for a
bit. As I recall someone was using a Lowe 12' aluminum utility skiff as
a tender. Am wondering what the list thinks of this idea. My current
RIB is dying and while stable, it was a wet ride and heavy to manhandle
and expensive to replace. Thinking the Lowe is cheap, light (104 lbs) No
Air, No paint, No hassle alternative and should carry a good load (400
lbs), is rated for a 10 hp outboard so I think my 15 won't really be a
problem.
Comments Please Thanks for the sage advise. Russ Davignon
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those who, by accidents of time, or place, or circumstance are brought
into closer connection with you." St. Augstine
I am in exactly the same situation and was considering using a aluminum
row boat about 12' like a Grumman
(http://www.marathonboat.com/dura.htm) as a dinghy. They are low
maintenance, high quality, long lasting, much less expensive then a
blow up boat, and able to row for exercise or emergency. I can't think
of any downside to one but I am very interested in what you folks
think.
Thanks
Dave Hart
--- "Davignon, Russell" Russell.Davignon@hitchcock.org wrote:
Have been following the dinghy, Boss Boat, Bullfrog etc debate for a
bit. As I recall someone was using a Lowe 12' aluminum utility skiff
as
a tender. Am wondering what the list thinks of this idea. My
current
RIB is dying and while stable, it was a wet ride and heavy to
manhandle
and expensive to replace. Thinking the Lowe is cheap, light (104 lbs)
No
Air, No paint, No hassle alternative and should carry a good load
(400
lbs), is rated for a 10 hp outboard so I think my 15 won't really be
a
problem.
Comments Please Thanks for the sage advise. Russ Davignon
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One of the best wooden rowboats is made in Vercheres, Quebec. Tradition goes
back to the 1850's. I'ts about 700 $US for a 12 ft.
Check :
http://www.chaloupesvercheres.com/
Web site is bilingual.
Bryan
I am in exactly the same situation and was considering using a aluminum
row boat about 12' like a Grumman
(http://www.marathonboat.com/dura.htm) as a dinghy. They are low
maintenance, high quality, long lasting, much less expensive then a
blow up boat, and able to row for exercise or emergency. I can't think
of any downside to one but I am very interested in what you folks
think.
Thanks
Dave Hart
--- "Davignon, Russell" Russell.Davignon@hitchcock.org wrote:
Have been following the dinghy, Boss Boat, Bullfrog etc debate for a
bit. As I recall someone was using a Lowe 12' aluminum utility skiff
as
a tender. Am wondering what the list thinks of this idea. My
current
RIB is dying and while stable, it was a wet ride and heavy to
manhandle
and expensive to replace. Thinking the Lowe is cheap, light (104 lbs)
No
Air, No paint, No hassle alternative and should carry a good load
(400
lbs), is rated for a 10 hp outboard so I think my 15 won't really be
a
problem.
Comments Please Thanks for the sage advise. Russ Davignon
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in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
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Well, if you put a 15hp on a boat rated for 10 max., and get a visit from
the water cops, you'll get a ticket. Not to say that Al boats are inherently
bad (I grew up with them on the TX Gulf Coast), there are some things you
need to think about. They're really cold in the winter and really hot in the
summer. That hot metal will burn you, so don't touch it with your skin if
possible when it's hot outside. They're noisy when things like anchors, gas
cans, fishing tackle etc. bang around in there, not to mention them banging
up against your boat if you have them tied off without fenders. One really
interesting thing is that diesel exhaust will form some sort of corrosive
material if you carry an Al dink off your stern. People have reported holes
in Al boats after carrying them back there for awhile (can't remember how
long it took). Seems something in the exhaust combines with salt and
aluminum to make a nice electrolytic cell. Maybe the carbon black? Anyway,
I'd use one for dinking around a lake or marina, but wouldn't use one as a
tender for salt water use.
Keith
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davignon, Russell" Russell.Davignon@hitchcock.org
Have been following the dinghy, Boss Boat, Bullfrog etc debate for a
bit. As I recall someone was using a Lowe 12' aluminum utility skiff as
a tender. Am wondering what the list thinks of this idea. My current
RIB is dying and while stable, it was a wet ride and heavy to manhandle
and expensive to replace. Thinking the Lowe is cheap, light (104 lbs) No
Air, No paint, No hassle alternative and should carry a good load (400
lbs), is rated for a 10 hp outboard so I think my 15 won't really be a
problem.
For something a little different, very good looking and easy to build,
all for a little more than a boat buck take a look at this kit:
http://www.pygmyboats.com/mall/WGWSPECS.asp
No affilation just a satisified customer.
John Blackburn
44 DeFever "Yak Rack"
Deale, MD
I am in exactly the same situation and was considering using a aluminum
row boat about 12' like a Grumman
(http://www.marathonboat.com/dura.htm) as a dinghy. They are low
maintenance, high quality, long lasting, much less expensive then a
blow up boat, and able to row for exercise or emergency. I can't think
of any downside to one but I am very interested in what you folks
think.
Where you going to stow while underway? On deck, weaver davits, transom
davits? If you tow it, what if it gets swamped while underway? Is it self
bailing? Does it float when swamped?
-- Jim Ague
Excellent questions Jim. I currently use weaver davits on my inflatable
and like them so I would bolt a set on the side instead of glueing
them. That would keep the dinghy out of the water. Its weight isn't
much different from an inflatable so I don't believe that would be a
problem. The Grumman has foam under the seats so it will not sink
completely.
The comment from someone else about diesel fumes causing corrosion does
concern me. Does anyone know any more about this?
Thanks
Dave Hart
--- Jim Ague jim.ague@att.net wrote:
Where you going to stow while underway? On deck, weaver davits,
transom
davits? If you tow it, what if it gets swamped while underway? Is it
self
bailing? Does it float when swamped?
-- Jim Ague
Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast
with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
I think what is wanted here is more or less traditional outboard powered
boat, and not a 'rowboat'. For a small boat to row well, it must have as
nearly sharp an exit as entry. You know, sort of pointy at both ends.
However, if one wants to push it with an outboard, then the quarters must be
both fuller, and flatter so it will not squat under power. Today few boats
are built for rowing, so have fuller quarters to carry an outboard.
A good compromise to traditional wooden construction is the composite of
fiberglass and cedar strips. Here one gets a boat that looks like wood,
especially when varnished, and the durability and watertightness of
fiberglass. A small stripper as these are called sure look better on a
transom than some of the plastic monstrosities one so commonly sees.
Check around your local area for small boat builders doing strippers, not
all of them are overpriced. Another option would be traditional boats built
in fiberglass. One outfit I would highly recommend is The Dinghy Company.
Their url is http://dinghyco.com. They have a very good selection of small
boats ranging from 6-1/2' to 17' you would never be ashamed of hanging on
your transom, or towing.
Woody
27' Marben Marine
Port Orchard, WA
Has anyone considered a Nutshell Pram from Wooden Boat School? Plans or
a kit are available. I talked with Rich Hilsinger (Wooden Boat School
Director) this summer about it and he was of the opinion that they'd
make a good tender. Comes in a 7'7" and a 9'6" model. A little pricey if
you buy the kit, but you could undoubtedly make it from the plans for a
lot less. Would be good for rowing and sailing - plus they look great!
Here is the URL for the prams in their catalogue:
http://www.woodenboatstore.com/products.asp?dept=74
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On 2/20/2007 2:34 AM, Woody and Kathy wrote:
I think what is wanted here is more or less traditional outboard powered
boat, and not a 'rowboat'. For a small boat to row well, it must have as
nearly sharp an exit as entry. You know, sort of pointy at both ends.
However, if one wants to push it with an outboard, then the quarters must be
both fuller, and flatter so it will not squat under power. Today few boats
are built for rowing, so have fuller quarters to carry an outboard.