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Verizon Aircard -- which one is best?

KT
Ken Tischler
Fri, Aug 17, 2007 2:23 PM

Ahh, but that is what external antennas are for. Plus, they work fine when
it is raining, when I would not care to have my phone on top of the boat!
;-)

Ken

On 8/17/07, bv bvcom@mac.com wrote:

In that case, you could have 2 phones, one for your needs and one as a
modem. I noticed that phones are generally cheaper than aircards, and
muchp
easier to play with via a cable or bluetooth to get the best possible
signal. I often put my phone on top of the boat and stay inside with the
laptop. With an aircard, you're stuck where the computer is, and it's no
fun
to be outside with a laptop by a sunny day.

Bryan

Ahh, but that is what external antennas are for. Plus, they work fine when it is raining, when I would not care to have my phone on top of the boat! ;-) Ken On 8/17/07, bv <bvcom@mac.com> wrote: > > In that case, you could have 2 phones, one for your needs and one as a > modem. I noticed that phones are generally cheaper than aircards, and > muchp > easier to play with via a cable or bluetooth to get the best possible > signal. I often put my phone on top of the boat and stay inside with the > laptop. With an aircard, you're stuck where the computer is, and it's no > fun > to be outside with a laptop by a sunny day. > > Bryan
DS
Dean Smith
Sun, Aug 26, 2007 3:30 AM

Hi List,

Tonight I did a really stupid thing.  I'm sure nobody on this list
has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can
tell me how they solved their problem.

I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank.  Too tired
and not thinking.

The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank.
What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling
up out of the tank and over the side.  I figure I lost about 2 gal or
less of fuel.  I called the coast guard and all that.  Everyone (cg,
state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no
problem.  I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed
nearly all of it.

BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank.  Ugh!
What should I do.  The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual
valves.  They just go into a T that feeds both engines.  If the water
is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the
bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated.  The fuel lines
from the tanks are rubber.  I could probably clamp the one
temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks.  I need
to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank.

Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks?
Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank.

Dean Smith
Desiderata
'76 38' Californian
Everett, WA

Hi List, Tonight I did a really stupid thing. I'm sure nobody on this list has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can tell me how they solved their problem. I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank. Too tired and not thinking. The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank. What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling up out of the tank and over the side. I figure I lost about 2 gal or less of fuel. I called the coast guard and all that. Everyone (cg, state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no problem. I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed nearly all of it. BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank. Ugh! What should I do. The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual valves. They just go into a T that feeds both engines. If the water is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated. The fuel lines from the tanks are rubber. I could probably clamp the one temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks. I need to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank. Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks? Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank. Dean Smith Desiderata '76 38' Californian Everett, WA
DS
Dean Smith
Sun, Aug 26, 2007 4:02 AM

Hi List,

Tonight I did a really stupid thing.  I'm sure nobody on this list
has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can
tell me how they solved their problem.

I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank.  Too tired
and not thinking.

The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank.
What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling
up out of the tank and over the side.  I figure I lost about 2 gal or
less of fuel.  I called the coast guard and all that.  Everyone (cg,
state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no
problem.  I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed
nearly all of it.

BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank.  Ugh!
What should I do.  The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual
valves.  They just go into a T that feeds both engines.  If the water
is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the
bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated.  The fuel lines
from the tanks are rubber.  I could probably clamp the one
temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks.  I need
to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank.

Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks?
Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank.

Dean Smith
Desiderata
'76 38' Californian
Everett, WA

Hi List, Tonight I did a really stupid thing. I'm sure nobody on this list has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can tell me how they solved their problem. I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank. Too tired and not thinking. The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank. What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling up out of the tank and over the side. I figure I lost about 2 gal or less of fuel. I called the coast guard and all that. Everyone (cg, state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no problem. I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed nearly all of it. BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank. Ugh! What should I do. The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual valves. They just go into a T that feeds both engines. If the water is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated. The fuel lines from the tanks are rubber. I could probably clamp the one temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks. I need to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank. Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks? Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank. Dean Smith Desiderata '76 38' Californian Everett, WA
DS
Dean Smith
Sun, Aug 26, 2007 4:10 AM

Hi List,

Tonight I did a really stupid thing.  I'm sure nobody on this list
has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can
tell me how they solved their problem.

I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank.  Too tired
and not thinking.

The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank.
What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling
up out of the tank and over the side.  I figure I lost about 2 gal or
less of fuel.  I called the coast guard and all that.  Everyone (cg,
state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no
problem.  I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed
nearly all of it.

BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank.  Ugh!
What should I do.  The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual
valves.  They just go into a T that feeds both engines.  If the water
is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the
bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated.  The fuel lines
from the tanks are rubber.  I could probably clamp the one
temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks.  I need
to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank.

Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks?
Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank.

Dean Smith
Desiderata
'76 38' Californian
Everett, WA

Hi List, Tonight I did a really stupid thing. I'm sure nobody on this list has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can tell me how they solved their problem. I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank. Too tired and not thinking. The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank. What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling up out of the tank and over the side. I figure I lost about 2 gal or less of fuel. I called the coast guard and all that. Everyone (cg, state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no problem. I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed nearly all of it. BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank. Ugh! What should I do. The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual valves. They just go into a T that feeds both engines. If the water is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated. The fuel lines from the tanks are rubber. I could probably clamp the one temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks. I need to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank. Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks? Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank. Dean Smith Desiderata '76 38' Californian Everett, WA
J
John01@sbc
Sun, Aug 26, 2007 1:23 PM

I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank.  Too tired
and not thinking.

The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank.
BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank.  Ugh!
What should I do.  The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual
valves.  They just go into a T that feeds both engines.

Hi Dean.  I recently did the same thing bit it was only about 7 liters.  I
was able to pump most of the fuel into 3 other tanks and was left with about
40 gallons of water/diesel.  I went to Wal-Mart and got 8 6 gallon plastic
tanks for about $5/each.  I then opened the side access port to the tank and
proceeded to pump the fuel/water combo into the 6 gallon tanks with my oil
change pump.  I used a plastic hoe with copper rod on the end to draw the
liquid from the bottom of the tank so I could get the water out first (water
settles to bottom with fuel on top).  Since I only had 7 liters of water I
took the first 2  tanks (12 gal) and disposed of them.  The remaining fuel
is on the back deck and should be mostly fuel.  My plan, when I have time,
is to pump about 80% of each can into the fuel tank and consolidate the
remaining 20% into a single can/cans.  After that settles I will do the same
for the last bit of water.  In my case it may be overkill.

It may be easier to call & pay for a fuel polisher but to me this is like
punishment for putting water in my fuel tank (also, it is a challenge).
Hopefully I will be more careful and not distracted in the future.

John Esch
Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster
Currently lying North Point Marina, Winthrop Harbor, IL
on Beautiful Lake Michigan/Wisconsin border
www.Fet-Esch.com

> I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank. Too tired > and not thinking. > > The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank. > BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank. Ugh! > What should I do. The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual > valves. They just go into a T that feeds both engines. Hi Dean. I recently did the same thing bit it was only about 7 liters. I was able to pump most of the fuel into 3 other tanks and was left with about 40 gallons of water/diesel. I went to Wal-Mart and got 8 6 gallon plastic tanks for about $5/each. I then opened the side access port to the tank and proceeded to pump the fuel/water combo into the 6 gallon tanks with my oil change pump. I used a plastic hoe with copper rod on the end to draw the liquid from the bottom of the tank so I could get the water out first (water settles to bottom with fuel on top). Since I only had 7 liters of water I took the first 2 tanks (12 gal) and disposed of them. The remaining fuel is on the back deck and should be mostly fuel. My plan, when I have time, is to pump about 80% of each can into the fuel tank and consolidate the remaining 20% into a single can/cans. After that settles I will do the same for the last bit of water. In my case it may be overkill. It may be easier to call & pay for a fuel polisher but to me this is like punishment for putting water in my fuel tank (also, it is a challenge). Hopefully I will be more careful and not distracted in the future. John Esch Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster Currently lying North Point Marina, Winthrop Harbor, IL on Beautiful Lake Michigan/Wisconsin border www.Fet-Esch.com
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Al Dente
Sun, Aug 26, 2007 3:58 PM

And I thought I was the only one who did this!  My solution was first to
calm myself so I didn't throw up and secondly call my mechanic who told me
he had done the opposite - he pumped 100 gallons of fuel into a water tank.

I was not present when he fixed my problem. I don't know how he did it, and
I'm not sure I want to. the bill was not a happy sight, but all is well.

Welcome to the club - very expensive to join though.

George

On 8/26/07, Dean Smith dean_smith@econvene.com wrote:

Hi List,

Tonight I did a really stupid thing.  I'm sure nobody on this list
has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can
tell me how they solved their problem.

I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank.  Too tired
and not thinking.

The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank.
What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling
up out of the tank and over the side.  I figure I lost about 2 gal or
less of fuel.  I called the coast guard and all that.  Everyone (cg,
state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no
problem.  I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed
nearly all of it.

BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank.  Ugh!
What should I do.  The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual
valves.  They just go into a T that feeds both engines.  If the water
is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the
bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated.  The fuel lines
from the tanks are rubber.  I could probably clamp the one
temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks.  I need
to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank.

Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks?
Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank.

Dean Smith
Desiderata
'76 38' Californian
Everett, WA


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And I thought I was the only one who did this! My solution was first to calm myself so I didn't throw up and secondly call my mechanic who told me he had done the opposite - he pumped 100 gallons of fuel into a water tank. I was not present when he fixed my problem. I don't know how he did it, and I'm not sure I want to. the bill was not a happy sight, but all is well. Welcome to the club - very expensive to join though. George On 8/26/07, Dean Smith <dean_smith@econvene.com> wrote: > > Hi List, > > Tonight I did a really stupid thing. I'm sure nobody on this list > has ever done this but you might know someone who did and you can > tell me how they solved their problem. > > I accidently ran the water fill hose into my fuel tank. Too tired > and not thinking. > > The fuel tank was almost full -- about 110 gal in a 125 gal tank. > What happened pretty quick was that fuel (and water) started bubbling > up out of the tank and over the side. I figure I lost about 2 gal or > less of fuel. I called the coast guard and all that. Everyone (cg, > state, marina and local fire dept) inspected and felt there was no > problem. I got absorbant pads right into the spill and absorbed > nearly all of it. > > BUT, that leaves me with 10-15 gal of water in my fuel tank. Ugh! > What should I do. The boat has two fuel tanks but no individual > valves. They just go into a T that feeds both engines. If the water > is on the bottom of the tank and the fuel line connects near the > bottom, it could be that both tanks are contaminated. The fuel lines > from the tanks are rubber. I could probably clamp the one > temporarily if the contamination hasn't gone into both tanks. I need > to move the boat soon to empty the sewage holding tank. > > Can I pump the water out of the contaminated tank or both tanks? > Presumably it is all sitting in the bottom of the tank. > > Dean Smith > Desiderata > '76 38' Californian > Everett, WA > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.