At 12:00 AM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: >How do people crimp them? I bought a proper die crimper from my local commercial electric supplier. It has a set of rotating dies which allow for crimping #8 through 4/0 non-insulated lugs. It is a large tool with handles about 24" long, but crimping 4/0 connectors is pretty easy, and #8 don't even take any effort. This type of crimper does a hex crimp which provides the correct pressure around the crimp to prevent pull out. (meets UL and ABYC pullout specifications) The dimple style crimpers, both the hammer blow type, and the adjustable crimper sold by Ancor do not meet this requirement. The cost of the crimper was about $135, but since I was doing an extended project it made economic sense to me. Jim & Jan McCorison M/V Maqana currently at Van Isle Marina, Tsehum Harbor, Sidney, BC, Canada http://manana.mccorison.com