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Lady Heather W/O a PC: Alternative

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Perry Sandeen
Tue, Aug 20, 2013 3:38 AM

List,
 
I have no problem with someone porting LH to any
device of their choice.
 
But at the Huntsville, AL hamfest this last weekend
there were a number of fully functional laptops for $29. I didn’t check what OS
they were using.
 
Sure they are about as old as dirt however they
are great for guys like me that don’t know a thing about programming and have
no interest in learning to program.  They
would provide a cheap LH monitor and when they die, just buy another.
 
If you wanted to go upscale there were loads of
14.1 inch IBM Thinkpads running various flavors of XP for $225. I’d expect one
of that quality build to run for years especially if one was to cut some extra ventilation
holes in the case and add a small external fan.
 
Regards,
 
Perrier


List,   I have no problem with someone porting LH to any device of their choice.   But at the Huntsville, AL hamfest this last weekend there were a number of fully functional laptops for $29. I didn’t check what OS they were using.   Sure they are about as old as dirt however they are great for guys like me that don’t know a thing about programming and have no interest in learning to program.  They would provide a cheap LH monitor and when they die, just buy another.   If you wanted to go upscale there were loads of 14.1 inch IBM Thinkpads running various flavors of XP for $225. I’d expect one of that quality build to run for years especially if one was to cut some extra ventilation holes in the case and add a small external fan.   Regards,   Perrier ________________________________
CA
Chris Albertson
Tue, Aug 20, 2013 3:55 AM

The point is that this only makes it cheaper.  It is still a PC running
Windows in some other room.  I think what is wanted is a way to have the
Thunderbolt "on-line" so the status shows up wherever you like.  Also those
old PC notebooks burn more power than you think.  Not nearly as much as an
older desktop PC but I bet more than $100 per year in power. (The old
desktop might burn $300 per year)

Another problem is that people might like to also run NTP server using
their Thunderbolt and the Windows OS that LH uses is a very poor choice for
NTP, so you'd need a second computer.  Best to put both on a little ARM
powered board.

The $25 notebook only helps with cost. It doesn't change the functionality.

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Perry Sandeen sandeenpa@yahoo.com wrote:

List,

I have no problem with someone porting LH to any
device of their choice.

But at the Huntsville, AL hamfest this last weekend
there were a number of fully functional laptops for $29. I didn’t check
what OS
they were using.

Sure they are about as old as dirt however they
are great for guys like me that don’t know a thing about programming and
have
no interest in learning to program.  They
would provide a cheap LH monitor and when they die, just buy another.

If you wanted to go upscale there were loads of
14.1 inch IBM Thinkpads running various flavors of XP for $225. I’d expect
one
of that quality build to run for years especially if one was to cut some
extra ventilation
holes in the case and add a small external fan.

Regards,

Perrier



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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

The point is that this only makes it cheaper. It is still a PC running Windows in some other room. I think what is wanted is a way to have the Thunderbolt "on-line" so the status shows up wherever you like. Also those old PC notebooks burn more power than you think. Not nearly as much as an older desktop PC but I bet more than $100 per year in power. (The old desktop might burn $300 per year) Another problem is that people might like to also run NTP server using their Thunderbolt and the Windows OS that LH uses is a very poor choice for NTP, so you'd need a second computer. Best to put both on a little ARM powered board. The $25 notebook only helps with cost. It doesn't change the functionality. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > List, > > I have no problem with someone porting LH to any > device of their choice. > > But at the Huntsville, AL hamfest this last weekend > there were a number of fully functional laptops for $29. I didn’t check > what OS > they were using. > > Sure they are about as old as dirt however they > are great for guys like me that don’t know a thing about programming and > have > no interest in learning to program. They > would provide a cheap LH monitor and when they die, just buy another. > > If you wanted to go upscale there were loads of > 14.1 inch IBM Thinkpads running various flavors of XP for $225. I’d expect > one > of that quality build to run for years especially if one was to cut some > extra ventilation > holes in the case and add a small external fan. > > Regards, > > Perrier > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California
DJ
David J Taylor
Tue, Aug 20, 2013 4:17 AM

From: Chris Albertson
[]
Another problem is that people might like to also run NTP server using
their Thunderbolt and the Windows OS that LH uses is a very poor choice for
NTP, so you'd need a second computer.  Best to put both on a little ARM
powered board.
[]

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Whilst Windows is not the optimum choice for running an NTP server (is
FreeBSD or Linux better these days?), the performance as a stratum-1 server
may be quite adequate for many applications.  See, for example:

http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_ntp.php#windows-stratum-1

A Raspberry Pi can do better.

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk

From: Chris Albertson [] Another problem is that people might like to also run NTP server using their Thunderbolt and the Windows OS that LH uses is a very poor choice for NTP, so you'd need a second computer. Best to put both on a little ARM powered board. [] ====================================== Whilst Windows is not the optimum choice for running an NTP server (is FreeBSD or Linux better these days?), the performance as a stratum-1 server may be quite adequate for many applications. See, for example: http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_ntp.php#windows-stratum-1 A Raspberry Pi can do better. Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk