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Testing Iridium's STL signal

ZC
Zdenek Chaloupka
Sun, Jun 2, 2024 5:27 AM

Hi

has anybody been able to test Iridium’s STL signal for PNT? There is a nice evaluation done by NIST here (https://www.nist.gov/publications/measuring-timing-accuracy-satellite-time-and-location-stl-receivers), from what I can tell from the graphs in the document the peak-to-peak variation is about 320ns with OCXO, and around 80ns with Rb oscillator.

It also seems that the STL’s time scale can drift from UTC(NIST) over time: adding some 50 ns in 100 days before being steered back.

There are apparently only two companies making modules now: Viavi’s STL-2600 (from Jackson Labs), or Oscilloquartz/Adtran’s OSA 5400 STL.

I am trying to get one of those STL receivers, but it seems to be near impossible. Is there someone, who knows someone who knows you-know-who who knows where to get any STL receiver?

Appreciate any pointers!

Best regards
Zdenek

Hi has anybody been able to test Iridium’s STL signal for PNT? There is a nice evaluation done by NIST here (https://www.nist.gov/publications/measuring-timing-accuracy-satellite-time-and-location-stl-receivers), from what I can tell from the graphs in the document the peak-to-peak variation is about 320ns with OCXO, and around 80ns with Rb oscillator. It also seems that the STL’s time scale can drift from UTC(NIST) over time: adding some 50 ns in 100 days before being steered back. There are apparently only two companies making modules now: Viavi’s STL-2600 (from Jackson Labs), or Oscilloquartz/Adtran’s OSA 5400 STL. I am trying to get one of those STL receivers, but it seems to be near impossible. Is there someone, who knows someone who knows you-know-who who knows where to get any STL receiver? Appreciate any pointers! Best regards Zdenek
MK
Mark Kahrs
Sun, Jun 9, 2024 4:06 PM

Interesting question.  The company is Satelles and they claim to have 40
patents (although under that name they are all applied for and not granted).
This URL is a sales talk promoting the product:

https://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/icg/2023/ICG_WG-S_LEO-PNT_Workshop_June_2023/ICG_LEO-PNT_Workshop_2023_05.pdf

And these URLs may be of use:

https://pure.coventry.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/53307908/Zidan_et_al_GNSS_Vulnerabilities_Existing_Solutions_A4.pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340923000239
https://asp-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s13634-023-01022-1

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 6:06 PM Zdenek Chaloupka via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Hi

has anybody been able to test Iridium’s STL signal for PNT? There is a
nice evaluation done by NIST here (
https://www.nist.gov/publications/measuring-timing-accuracy-satellite-time-and-location-stl-receivers),
from what I can tell from the graphs in the document the peak-to-peak
variation is about 320ns with OCXO, and around 80ns with Rb oscillator.

It also seems that the STL’s time scale can drift from UTC(NIST) over
time: adding some 50 ns in 100 days before being steered back.

There are apparently only two companies making modules now: Viavi’s
STL-2600 (from Jackson Labs), or Oscilloquartz/Adtran’s OSA 5400 STL.

I am trying to get one of those STL receivers, but it seems to be near
impossible. Is there someone, who knows someone who knows you-know-who who
knows where to get any STL receiver?

Appreciate any pointers!

Best regards
Zdenek


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Interesting question. The company is Satelles and they claim to have 40 patents (although under that name they are all applied for and not granted). This URL is a sales talk promoting the product: https://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/icg/2023/ICG_WG-S_LEO-PNT_Workshop_June_2023/ICG_LEO-PNT_Workshop_2023_05.pdf And these URLs may be of use: https://pure.coventry.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/53307908/Zidan_et_al_GNSS_Vulnerabilities_Existing_Solutions_A4.pdf https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340923000239 https://asp-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s13634-023-01022-1 On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 6:06 PM Zdenek Chaloupka via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi > > has anybody been able to test Iridium’s STL signal for PNT? There is a > nice evaluation done by NIST here ( > https://www.nist.gov/publications/measuring-timing-accuracy-satellite-time-and-location-stl-receivers), > from what I can tell from the graphs in the document the peak-to-peak > variation is about 320ns with OCXO, and around 80ns with Rb oscillator. > > It also seems that the STL’s time scale can drift from UTC(NIST) over > time: adding some 50 ns in 100 days before being steered back. > > There are apparently only two companies making modules now: Viavi’s > STL-2600 (from Jackson Labs), or Oscilloquartz/Adtran’s OSA 5400 STL. > > I am trying to get one of those STL receivers, but it seems to be near > impossible. Is there someone, who knows someone who knows you-know-who who > knows where to get any STL receiver? > > Appreciate any pointers! > > Best regards > Zdenek > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com