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TWL: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot

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elnav@uniserve.com
Mon, Nov 27, 2000 4:03 AM

At 01:25 AM 11/27/2000 EST, SobreElMar@aol.com wrote:

Hi all!
Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots?  I have a
model 8231 system installed as original equipment aboard my 55' wood DeFever
Pilot House LRC which was built in 1971.

Arild replies:
I serviced one W- F  autopilot last year which was installed on a 1971 boat.
The  rudder sensor cable rusted causing  it  to hang up.
The sensor mechanism is  a floating card  with  pins that  make electrical
contact with  pins inset into the top glass surface.
You have to  remove the binnacle top to see these.
These pins are subject to  salt air and  subsequent corrosion.  Check to
make sure these are completely clean.
The  drive motors are actuated by  mercury  wetted contacts. This is a good
design since  you never get burned contacts.

The autopilot is more electrical than electronic and as such  fairly easy
to service.
BTW  the conpany is still in business and can supply spare parts.
They can also advise you on  service procedures.

Regards

Arild

At 01:25 AM 11/27/2000 EST, SobreElMar@aol.com wrote: >Hi all! > Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots? I have a >model 8231 system installed as original equipment aboard my 55' wood DeFever >Pilot House LRC which was built in 1971. Arild replies: I serviced one W- F autopilot last year which was installed on a 1971 boat. The rudder sensor cable rusted causing it to hang up. The sensor mechanism is a floating card with pins that make electrical contact with pins inset into the top glass surface. You have to remove the binnacle top to see these. These pins are subject to salt air and subsequent corrosion. Check to make sure these are completely clean. The drive motors are actuated by mercury wetted contacts. This is a good design since you never get burned contacts. The autopilot is more electrical than electronic and as such fairly easy to service. BTW the conpany is still in business and can supply spare parts. They can also advise you on service procedures. Regards Arild
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SobreElMar@aol.com
Mon, Nov 27, 2000 6:25 AM

Hi all!
Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots?  I have a
model 8231 system installed as original equipment aboard my 55' wood DeFever
Pilot House LRC which was built in 1971.
The unit works great and has ever since I have owned the boat.  The only
problem is that on some occasions it takes quite some time, an hour or more,
before the unit will actually engage and hold a compass heading.  Once it
does so, then it works flawlessly.  I suspect the older style of autopilot
has a much less sophisticated method for reading its compass and this maybe
in need of cleaning or service.  I am reluctant to mess with the system as it
does work very well once engaged.  It will steer through remote by using
course correction buttons at all times even before it will hold compass
heading.
Looking forward to hearing from one of you with an older trawler who has
this same very heavy duty autopilot.

Mike Schachter
M/V Sobre El Mar
55' DeFever raised pilot house LRC.

Hi all! Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots? I have a model 8231 system installed as original equipment aboard my 55' wood DeFever Pilot House LRC which was built in 1971. The unit works great and has ever since I have owned the boat. The only problem is that on some occasions it takes quite some time, an hour or more, before the unit will actually engage and hold a compass heading. Once it does so, then it works flawlessly. I suspect the older style of autopilot has a much less sophisticated method for reading its compass and this maybe in need of cleaning or service. I am reluctant to mess with the system as it does work very well once engaged. It will steer through remote by using course correction buttons at all times even before it will hold compass heading. Looking forward to hearing from one of you with an older trawler who has this same very heavy duty autopilot. Mike Schachter M/V Sobre El Mar 55' DeFever raised pilot house LRC.
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Bob@Garrett-Smith.com
Mon, Nov 27, 2000 1:55 PM

Here http://www.woodfreeman.com/index2.html is the contact info on Wood
Freeman.  Michael Freeman michael@woodfreeman.com is very responsive.

BTW, WF is coming out with an upgrade for the Model 500 so it can talk to
the GPS unit. ETA: early next year.

Bob


M/Y Susan Marie
Hatteras 58 LRC
Chesapeake Bay

From: SobreElMar@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:25:50 EST
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Subject: TWL: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot

Hi all!
Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots?

Here <http://www.woodfreeman.com/index2.html> is the contact info on Wood Freeman. Michael Freeman <michael@woodfreeman.com> is very responsive. BTW, WF is coming out with an upgrade for the Model 500 so it can talk to the GPS unit. ETA: early next year. Bob _______________________ M/Y Susan Marie Hatteras 58 LRC Chesapeake Bay > From: SobreElMar@aol.com > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:25:50 EST > To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> > Subject: TWL: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot > > Hi all! > Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots?
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DonAergo@worldnet.att.net
Tue, Nov 28, 2000 3:14 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: SobreElMar@aol.com
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:25 PM
Subject: TWL: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot

Hi all!
Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots?  I have

a

Mike:

I have a model 500 installed as original equipment on my 1981 60' DeFever.
When I thought it was not working, I called Wood Freeman in Tacoma WA and
spoke with an engineer. Since my boat is in Seattle, he asked me to bring it
to the factory and they would test all components.

When I arrived at the factory, the owner met me and proceeded to test all of
the components on their bench. Everything worked fine, but he noticed a
original circuit board that was upgraded 10 years ago/ He replaced the board
and tuned up everything he could.

He then went through a complete seminar on the auto pilot, its workings and
operations. He spent over three hours with me and would not take a penny for
his time or the part he replaced.

I replaced all the components and went through the checkout and calibrations
which took about two hours. The next day I went on a test drive and it
worked perfectly and has for the last 18 months.

Mine does not have the ability to couple with an autopilot or GPS, but it
holds the heading better than I can. I see no reason to replace it.

Wood Freeman is about ready to introduce some new models which will bring
them into the space age.  If they are as bullet proof as the old 500 is it
should be great.

They have a Web site and will respond to e-mail and phone calls.  How
unusual for a 50 plus year old company.

Don and Glenda Sorensen
Esperanza

----- Original Message ----- From: <SobreElMar@aol.com> To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:25 PM Subject: TWL: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot > Hi all! > Anyone out there with experience with Wood Freeman autopilots? I have a Mike: I have a model 500 installed as original equipment on my 1981 60' DeFever. When I thought it was not working, I called Wood Freeman in Tacoma WA and spoke with an engineer. Since my boat is in Seattle, he asked me to bring it to the factory and they would test all components. When I arrived at the factory, the owner met me and proceeded to test all of the components on their bench. Everything worked fine, but he noticed a original circuit board that was upgraded 10 years ago/ He replaced the board and tuned up everything he could. He then went through a complete seminar on the auto pilot, its workings and operations. He spent over three hours with me and would not take a penny for his time or the part he replaced. I replaced all the components and went through the checkout and calibrations which took about two hours. The next day I went on a test drive and it worked perfectly and has for the last 18 months. Mine does not have the ability to couple with an autopilot or GPS, but it holds the heading better than I can. I see no reason to replace it. Wood Freeman is about ready to introduce some new models which will bring them into the space age. If they are as bullet proof as the old 500 is it should be great. They have a Web site and will respond to e-mail and phone calls. How unusual for a 50 plus year old company. Don and Glenda Sorensen Esperanza
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bob@garrett-smith.com
Wed, Nov 29, 2000 4:12 AM

A retrofit upgrade for the 500 is coming in early 2001, according to Michael
Freeman.
Bob


M/Y Susan Marie
Hatteras 58 LRC
Chesapeake Bay

From: "Donald N Sorensen" DonAergo@worldnet.att.net
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:14:38 -0700
To: SobreElMar@aol.com, trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Subject: TWL: Re: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot

Mine does not have the ability to couple with an autopilot or GPS

A retrofit upgrade for the 500 is coming in early 2001, according to Michael Freeman. Bob _________________________ M/Y Susan Marie Hatteras 58 LRC Chesapeake Bay > From: "Donald N Sorensen" <DonAergo@worldnet.att.net> > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:14:38 -0700 > To: <SobreElMar@aol.com>, <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> > Subject: TWL: Re: Wood Freeman Auto Pilot > > Mine does not have the ability to couple with an autopilot or GPS