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FTS 1050 schematic needed

PS
Perry Sandeen
Fri, Aug 18, 2023 9:22 PM

List,
I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else functions.
I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from

If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and circuit diagram(s) that are available.
The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that purchased Symmetraicon.
Any help appreciated.

Perrier

List, I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else functions. I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and circuit diagram(s) that are available. The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that purchased Symmetraicon. Any help appreciated. Perrier
TK
Tom Knox
Sat, Aug 19, 2023 3:33 AM

Hi Perrier;
I have been looking for a 1050A service manual for years with no luck. Please let me know if you find one.
I have been considering reverse engineering the schematic..
Best Wishes;
Tom Knox
SR Test and Measurement Engineer
Phoenix Research
4870 Meredith Way Apt 102
Boulder, Co 80303
Formerly of:
357 Fox Lane
Superior Co 80027
303-554-0307
actast@hotmail.com

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshall-fire/superior-man-moving-forward-after-losing-dream-research-lab-during-marshall-fire

"Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of Justice" Both MLK and Albert Einstein


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Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050 schematic needed

List,
I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else functions.
I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from

If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and circuit diagram(s) that are available.
The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that purchased Symmetraicon.
Any help appreciated.

Perrier


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Hi Perrier; I have been looking for a 1050A service manual for years with no luck. Please let me know if you find one. I have been considering reverse engineering the schematic.. Best Wishes; Tom Knox SR Test and Measurement Engineer Phoenix Research 4870 Meredith Way Apt 102 Boulder, Co 80303 Formerly of: 357 Fox Lane Superior Co 80027 303-554-0307 actast@hotmail.com https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshall-fire/superior-man-moving-forward-after-losing-dream-research-lab-during-marshall-fire "Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of Justice" Both MLK and Albert Einstein ________________________________ From: Perry Sandeen via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 3:22 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Cc: Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa@yahoo.com> Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050 schematic needed List, I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else functions. I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and circuit diagram(s) that are available. The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that purchased Symmetraicon. Any help appreciated. Perrier _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
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paul swed
Sun, Aug 20, 2023 1:16 AM

Perry
I do not have schematics. But am willing to help to see if we can figure
out whats up.
I have the FTS so am familiar with that unit. Yours is newer. But maybe
some guessing can help.
On the 4050 there is a power supply and space for batteries. The 120 VAC
comes into a linear supply and is converted to 24 V.
That charges the batteries and runs the Cesium. There are branches off of
the supply for the alarms as I recall regulated to 15V.
On the 4050 the 24 V goes into the cesium module. This was the point my
unit had failed. The electrolytics in the dc boost converter had leaked and
destroyed the board. As I figured out the boost converter takes 24V to 31V.
Fixing that with an external supply and everything worked.
Not saying thats your problem but at least a concept to consider.
Especially if you never find schematics.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 10:15 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

List,
I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't
work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else
functions.
I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from

If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and
circuit diagram(s) that are available.
The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that
purchased Symmetraicon.
Any help appreciated.

Perrier


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Perry I do not have schematics. But am willing to help to see if we can figure out whats up. I have the FTS so am familiar with that unit. Yours is newer. But maybe some guessing can help. On the 4050 there is a power supply and space for batteries. The 120 VAC comes into a linear supply and is converted to 24 V. That charges the batteries and runs the Cesium. There are branches off of the supply for the alarms as I recall regulated to 15V. On the 4050 the 24 V goes into the cesium module. This was the point my unit had failed. The electrolytics in the dc boost converter had leaked and destroyed the board. As I figured out the boost converter takes 24V to 31V. Fixing that with an external supply and everything worked. Not saying thats your problem but at least a concept to consider. Especially if you never find schematics. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 10:15 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > List, > I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't > work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else > functions. > I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from > > If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and > circuit diagram(s) that are available. > The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that > purchased Symmetraicon. > Any help appreciated. > > Perrier > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >
J
JC
Sun, Aug 20, 2023 7:45 PM

Maybe this will be of some help. I scanned it several years for someone
else with
your need. My manual is at my Texas location and I won't be back there
until November
so can't get you any more than this for now. There is nothing in the
original manual
for the 5Mhz oscillator other than a block diagram, and there are also a
couple items
that are missing or incorrect.

John K0GCJ

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 2:20 PM Tom Knox via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Hi Perrier;
I have been looking for a 1050A service manual for years with no luck.
Please let me know if you find one.
I have been considering reverse engineering the schematic..
Best Wishes;
Tom Knox
SR Test and Measurement Engineer
Phoenix Research
4870 Meredith Way Apt 102
Boulder, Co 80303
Formerly of:
357 Fox Lane
Superior Co 80027
303-554-0307
actast@hotmail.com

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshall-fire/superior-man-moving-forward-after-losing-dream-research-lab-during-marshall-fire

"Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of Justice" Both
MLK and Albert Einstein


From: Perry Sandeen via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 3:22 PM
To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com time-nuts@lists.febo.com
Cc: Perry Sandeen sandeenpa@yahoo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050 schematic needed

List,
I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't
work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else
functions.
I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from

If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and
circuit diagram(s) that are available.
The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that
purchased Symmetraicon.
Any help appreciated.

Perrier


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Maybe this will be of some help. I scanned it several years for someone else with your need. My manual is at my Texas location and I won't be back there until November so can't get you any more than this for now. There is nothing in the original manual for the 5Mhz oscillator other than a block diagram, and there are also a couple items that are missing or incorrect. John K0GCJ On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 2:20 PM Tom Knox via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi Perrier; > I have been looking for a 1050A service manual for years with no luck. > Please let me know if you find one. > I have been considering reverse engineering the schematic.. > Best Wishes; > Tom Knox > SR Test and Measurement Engineer > Phoenix Research > 4870 Meredith Way Apt 102 > Boulder, Co 80303 > Formerly of: > 357 Fox Lane > Superior Co 80027 > 303-554-0307 > actast@hotmail.com > > > https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshall-fire/superior-man-moving-forward-after-losing-dream-research-lab-during-marshall-fire > > "Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of Justice" Both > MLK and Albert Einstein > ________________________________ > From: Perry Sandeen via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 3:22 PM > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Cc: Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa@yahoo.com> > Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050 schematic needed > > List, > I just purchased a FTS 1050A on Ebay it was listed as used but it doesn't > work as advertised. The power and alarm lights come on but nothing else > functions. > I've D/L'd the two operators manuals from > > If the seller and I come to an agreement I need whatever schematic and > circuit diagram(s) that are available. > The link on Febo.com for the schematic takes one to the company that > purchased Symmetraicon. > Any help appreciated. > > Perrier > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >