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Re: [PUP] Termination of an all chain rode

M
mporter@mp-marine.com
Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:15 AM

My chain locker is similoar to yours.  I put the shackle high on the
bulkhead near the outboard edge of the locker and put a small (maybe 4")
seethru deckplate in the locker side so I can reach in and open the
shackle.

Michael Porter
M/V Barbara
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1. Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain rode
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2. Re: Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain
   rode (Denis Umstot)

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:02:53 +0300
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Subject: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain
rode
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I am on the hard and just dumped my anchor chain.
My anchor chain locker is behind a water tight collision bulkhead (some 30
nits need to be taken off to get the door to the locker off)
so this is the first time I have opened it up and emptied the locker.

My ?  inch chain is shacked to the bulkhead.

I know the plus' and minus' of it being shackled.

I was thinking of putting some rope to that bitter end so that IF I have
to dump the anchor, I just cut the rope.

But then I thought how would I fasten it to the chain?
Could the rope foul the windless?
Is it even necessary?
If I put a rope, do I fasten it to the bulkhead or do I leave it un
attached...

Thoughts?

Sorry to have to ask to rush those thoughts but this refit is scheduled
for four days so do not have a lot of time to work with....

Lee

Marmaris


Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:28:25 -0700
From: Denis Umstot umstot@hotmail.com
To: "lalicata@alum.rpi.edu" lalicata@alum.rpi.edu, Passagemaking
under power list passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all
chain rode
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I agree you need a length of rope where it fastens to the bulkhead.  You
could be in serious trouble if you had to cut the chain in a hurry.  Be
sure you have a large fender to bouy the chain, especially if the water is
deep.
Most windlass set ups include a gypsy for chain and one for rope.  If you
accidentally let out all your chain and get to your rope, you can use a
separate line with a chainhook to retrieve the chain back to the gypsy.
Don't make the rope too long--you want to have access to the bitter end of
the chain.
As far as fastening the rope to the chain, you might just do an eye splice
to the bitter end of the chain.  You may never have to use the bitter-end
rope so there will not be much wear and tear.  I don't think it will foul
your windlass.
We were once anchoring in over 120 ft of water in Turkey and Mary let out
all the anchor chain by accident.  We were able to retrieve it with a
chainhook with no big problem.
Denis UmstotSeattle

From: lalicata@alum.rpi.edu
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:02:53 +0300
To: passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain
rode

I am on the hard and just dumped my anchor chain.
My anchor chain locker is behind a water tight collision bulkhead (some
30 nits need to be taken off to get the door to the locker off)
so this is the first time I have opened it up and emptied the locker.

My ?  inch chain is shacked to the bulkhead.

I know the plus' and minus' of it being shackled.

I was thinking of putting some rope to that bitter end so that IF I have
to dump the anchor, I just cut the rope.

But then I thought how would I fasten it to the chain?
Could the rope foul the windless?
Is it even necessary?
If I put a rope, do I fasten it to the bulkhead or do I leave it un
attached...

Thoughts?

Sorry to have to ask to rush those thoughts but this refit is scheduled
for four days so do not have a lot of time to work with....

Lee

Marmaris


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My chain locker is similoar to yours. I put the shackle high on the bulkhead near the outboard edge of the locker and put a small (maybe 4") seethru deckplate in the locker side so I can reach in and open the shackle. Michael Porter M/V Barbara On Mon, July 1, 2013 10:00 pm, passagemaking-request@lists.trawlering.com wrote: > Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to > passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking_lists.trawlering.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > passagemaking-request@lists.trawlering.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > passagemaking-owner@lists.trawlering.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain rode > (lalicata@alum.rpi.edu) > 2. Re: Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain > rode (Denis Umstot) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:02:53 +0300 > From: lalicata@alum.rpi.edu > To: TrawlerList TrawlerList <passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com> > Subject: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain > rode > Message-ID: <AE373D96-B692-4050-A938-1035656E68AA@alum.rpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > I am on the hard and just dumped my anchor chain. > My anchor chain locker is behind a water tight collision bulkhead (some 30 > nits need to be taken off to get the door to the locker off) > so this is the first time I have opened it up and emptied the locker. > > My ? inch chain is shacked to the bulkhead. > > I know the plus' and minus' of it being shackled. > > I was thinking of putting some rope to that bitter end so that IF I have > to dump the anchor, I just cut the rope. > > But then I thought how would I fasten it to the chain? > Could the rope foul the windless? > Is it even necessary? > If I put a rope, do I fasten it to the bulkhead or do I leave it un > attached... > > > Thoughts? > > Sorry to have to ask to rush those thoughts but this refit is scheduled > for four days so do not have a lot of time to work with.... > > Lee > > Marmaris > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:28:25 -0700 > From: Denis Umstot <umstot@hotmail.com> > To: "lalicata@alum.rpi.edu" <lalicata@alum.rpi.edu>, Passagemaking > under power list <passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all > chain rode > Message-ID: <BAY169-W1370E577882E66FD487424BCB710@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I agree you need a length of rope where it fastens to the bulkhead. You > could be in serious trouble if you had to cut the chain in a hurry. Be > sure you have a large fender to bouy the chain, especially if the water is > deep. > Most windlass set ups include a gypsy for chain and one for rope. If you > accidentally let out all your chain and get to your rope, you can use a > separate line with a chainhook to retrieve the chain back to the gypsy. > Don't make the rope too long--you want to have access to the bitter end of > the chain. > As far as fastening the rope to the chain, you might just do an eye splice > to the bitter end of the chain. You may never have to use the bitter-end > rope so there will not be much wear and tear. I don't think it will foul > your windlass. > We were once anchoring in over 120 ft of water in Turkey and Mary let out > all the anchor chain by accident. We were able to retrieve it with a > chainhook with no big problem. > Denis UmstotSeattle > >> From: lalicata@alum.rpi.edu >> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:02:53 +0300 >> To: passagemaking@lists.trawlering.com >> Subject: [PUP] Timely response requested: Termination of an all chain >> rode >> >> >> I am on the hard and just dumped my anchor chain. >> My anchor chain locker is behind a water tight collision bulkhead (some >> 30 nits need to be taken off to get the door to the locker off) >> so this is the first time I have opened it up and emptied the locker. >> >> My ? inch chain is shacked to the bulkhead. >> >> I know the plus' and minus' of it being shackled. >> >> I was thinking of putting some rope to that bitter end so that IF I have >> to dump the anchor, I just cut the rope. >> >> But then I thought how would I fasten it to the chain? >> Could the rope foul the windless? >> Is it even necessary? >> If I put a rope, do I fasten it to the bulkhead or do I leave it un >> attached... >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Sorry to have to ask to rush those thoughts but this refit is scheduled >> for four days so do not have a lot of time to work with.... >> >> Lee >> >> Marmaris >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To unsubscribe send email to >> passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word >> UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. >> >> Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World >> Productions. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > > ------------------------------ > > End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 98, Issue 1 > ******************************************************** > Michael Porter Marine Design www.mp-marine.com