Hey pjsip list, I have been spending the past day trying to find a suitable and tested embedded platform (w/a proper evaluation board including audio) for a 2 channel VoIP gateway running pjsip. It doesn't seem like there is any "out of the box" solution; only hints about what may work. If anyone can point me to a working, verified evaluation board for pjsip - I would be very grateful. Below are the options I've seen so far. There seem to be two strong contenders: AD's Blackfin (uClinux only) and Atmel's AT91SAM9 (uClinux or linux). The Blackfin support is listed in the pjsip documentation<http://www.pjsip.org/sip_media_features.htm> as "underway" but Benny Prijono had a few blog posts explaining how to start working with the Blackfin BF-537 STAMP and AD1836AZ-DBRD audio daughterboard - but no followup as to whether this works, how many channels and performance numbers. The SAM9, has a lot more buzz around it (relatively...). Quite a few forum posts have people asking questions regarding various stages of debugging. The only problem is finding a proper evaluation platform. Atmel's offerings only support an input channel on the higher end SAM9M10-G45-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4735&category_id=163&family_id=605&subfamily_id=1739> (the other EK's only have a DAC), and that too is single channel. Hope is found when looking at 3rd party evaluation kits on the at91 website, such as Ronetix's AT91SAM9261 starter kit<http://www.at91.com/component/resource/article/Tools/35-Kits%20&%20Modules/1106-starter-kit-with-atmel-at91sam9261.html>. However, it doesn't seem like anyone has run pjsip on this platform yet. The pjsip trac shows <http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/PJMEDIA-MIPS> performance figures for the Olimex SAM9-L9260 board, but doesn't say which CODEC daughterboard is used. In addition to that, Olimex has something very close<http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h3131.html>based on an NXP ARM9 device, but it does not have ethernet. D'oh! Other options: Beagleboard w/linphone: Seems to be somewhat tested and easy to deploy. The downside is it is only 1 channel and based on the fairly expensive TI DaVinci. Audiocodes AC48x CPE VoIP Toolkit: All in one, but probably very expensive M53281KIT: Freescale's Coldfire with 3rd party CODECs. Also probably expensive I might also try getting this to work on an MPC875 platform I have laying around (running @ 50MHz), outputting PCM via a transparent SCC. Again, any pointers regarding evaluation platforms would be great. Eran

Hi there, I am in the process of testing pjsip on a SAM9260 board. I have done preliminary tests on the AT91SAM9260-EK from atmel The problem is that you only have a audio out device so the media side does not work, as stated by Eran, But currently with linux (Openembedded, Angstrom) installed, it is a very nice platform to work with, And I had no problems getting pjsua and other applications to run. You do get an add on board for this with the TLV320AIC23 audio codec, Calypso board( example implementation: http://www.ethernut.de/en/documents/sam-web-radio.html ) I have not tested this myself, but you can still get them from some sources it seems. Our own board was designed similar to evaluation board but with the LM4549 Codec on board, will be able to test new hardware within the next week. Regards Gideon Spreeth On 28 March 2011 20:21, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey pjsip list, > > I have been spending the past day trying to find a suitable and tested > embedded platform (w/a proper evaluation board including audio) for a 2 > channel VoIP gateway running pjsip. It doesn't seem like there is any "out > of the box" solution; only hints about what may work. If anyone can point me > to a working, verified evaluation board for pjsip - I would be very > grateful. Below are the options I've seen so far. > > There seem to be two strong contenders: AD's Blackfin (uClinux only) and > Atmel's AT91SAM9 (uClinux or linux). > > The Blackfin support is listed in the pjsip documentation<http://www.pjsip.org/sip_media_features.htm> as > "underway" but Benny Prijono had a few blog posts explaining how to start > working with the Blackfin BF-537 STAMP and AD1836AZ-DBRD audio daughterboard > - but no followup as to whether this works, how many channels and > performance numbers. > > The SAM9, has a lot more buzz around it (relatively...). Quite a few forum > posts have people asking questions regarding various stages of > debugging. The only problem is finding a proper evaluation platform. Atmel's > offerings only support an input channel on the higher end SAM9M10-G45-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4735&category_id=163&family_id=605&subfamily_id=1739> (the > other EK's only have a DAC), and that too is single channel. Hope is found > when looking at 3rd party evaluation kits on the at91 website, such as Ronetix's AT91SAM9261 > starter kit<http://www.at91.com/component/resource/article/Tools/35-Kits%20&%20Modules/1106-starter-kit-with-atmel-at91sam9261.html>. > However, it doesn't seem like anyone has run pjsip on this platform yet. The > pjsip trac shows <http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/PJMEDIA-MIPS>performance figures for the Olimex SAM9-L9260 board, but doesn't say > which CODEC daughterboard is used. In addition to that, Olimex has something > very close <http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h3131.html> based on an NXP ARM9 > device, but it does not have ethernet. D'oh! > > Other options: > Beagleboard w/linphone: Seems to be somewhat tested and easy to deploy. The > downside is it is only 1 channel and based on the fairly expensive TI > DaVinci. > Audiocodes AC48x CPE VoIP Toolkit: All in one, but probably very expensive > M53281KIT: Freescale's Coldfire with 3rd party CODECs. Also probably > expensive > I might also try getting this to work on an MPC875 platform I have laying > around (running @ 50MHz), outputting PCM via a transparent SCC. > > Again, any pointers regarding evaluation platforms would be great. > Eran > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip@lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org > >

Yep, found about the Caplyso last night. It's 3rd party and requires removing the connectors from the EK. However, it seems to only be tested on a proprietary RTOS, so it's not out of the box for linux. In addition, I have also found that even though the Atmel website lists the SAM9263-EK <http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4057> as having a AC97 DAC, in reality it also has an input channel which has been tested to work. However, this discussion<http://www.at91.com/forum/viewtopic.php/f,4/t,18866/>shows that it will not work in full duplex. The good news is a patch <http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg31861.html> was released a month later, fixing the duplex issue. No word on whether anyone has the 9263 running a full duplex voice call, though. Eran On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Gideon Spreeth <gspreeth@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there, I am in the process of testing pjsip on a SAM9260 board. I have > done preliminary tests on the AT91SAM9260-EK from atmel The problem is that > you only have a audio out device so the media side does not work, as stated > by Eran, But currently with linux (Openembedded, Angstrom) installed, it is > a very nice platform to work with, And I had no problems getting pjsua and > other applications to run. > > You do get an add on board for this with the TLV320AIC23 audio codec, > Calypso board( example implementation: > http://www.ethernut.de/en/documents/sam-web-radio.html ) I have not tested > this myself, but you can still get them from some sources it seems. > > > > Our own board was designed similar to evaluation board but with the LM4549 > Codec on board, will be able to test new hardware within the next week. > > > > Regards > > > > Gideon Spreeth > > > > > On 28 March 2011 20:21, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey pjsip list, >> >> I have been spending the past day trying to find a suitable and tested >> embedded platform (w/a proper evaluation board including audio) for a 2 >> channel VoIP gateway running pjsip. It doesn't seem like there is any "out >> of the box" solution; only hints about what may work. If anyone can point me >> to a working, verified evaluation board for pjsip - I would be very >> grateful. Below are the options I've seen so far. >> >> There seem to be two strong contenders: AD's Blackfin (uClinux only) and >> Atmel's AT91SAM9 (uClinux or linux). >> >> The Blackfin support is listed in the pjsip documentation<http://www.pjsip.org/sip_media_features.htm> as >> "underway" but Benny Prijono had a few blog posts explaining how to start >> working with the Blackfin BF-537 STAMP and AD1836AZ-DBRD audio daughterboard >> - but no followup as to whether this works, how many channels and >> performance numbers. >> >> The SAM9, has a lot more buzz around it (relatively...). Quite a few forum >> posts have people asking questions regarding various stages of >> debugging. The only problem is finding a proper evaluation platform. Atmel's >> offerings only support an input channel on the higher end SAM9M10-G45-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4735&category_id=163&family_id=605&subfamily_id=1739> (the >> other EK's only have a DAC), and that too is single channel. Hope is found >> when looking at 3rd party evaluation kits on the at91 website, such as Ronetix's AT91SAM9261 >> starter kit<http://www.at91.com/component/resource/article/Tools/35-Kits%20&%20Modules/1106-starter-kit-with-atmel-at91sam9261.html>. >> However, it doesn't seem like anyone has run pjsip on this platform yet. The >> pjsip trac shows <http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/PJMEDIA-MIPS>performance figures for the Olimex SAM9-L9260 board, but doesn't say >> which CODEC daughterboard is used. In addition to that, Olimex has something >> very close <http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h3131.html> based on an NXP >> ARM9 device, but it does not have ethernet. D'oh! >> >> Other options: >> Beagleboard w/linphone: Seems to be somewhat tested and easy to deploy. >> The downside is it is only 1 channel and based on the fairly expensive TI >> DaVinci. >> Audiocodes AC48x CPE VoIP Toolkit: All in one, but probably very expensive >> M53281KIT: Freescale's Coldfire with 3rd party CODECs. Also probably >> expensive >> I might also try getting this to work on an MPC875 platform I have laying >> around (running @ 50MHz), outputting PCM via a transparent SCC. >> >> Again, any pointers regarding evaluation platforms would be great. >> Eran >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >> >> pjsip mailing list >> pjsip@lists.pjsip.org >> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip@lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org > >

No, as far as I've seen it just plugs into the connectors? nothing needs to be removed.. linux as I use it has drivers for that specific codec, and many others,standard AC97 support, etc, so its easy enough to incorporate. But it is probably easier to look at something like that 9263 then, that has support built in. Also haven't heard of anyone testing on it. If all goes well I can at least give stats on the SAM9260 soon, as well as ease of CODEC driver incorporation etc.. Good luck Gideon Spreeth On 29 March 2011 10:52, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: > Yep, found about the Caplyso last night. It's 3rd party and requires > removing the connectors from the EK. However, it seems to only be tested on > a proprietary RTOS, so it's not out of the box for linux. > > In addition, I have also found that even though the Atmel website lists > the SAM9263-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4057> as > having a AC97 DAC, in reality it also has an input channel which has been > tested to work. However, this discussion<http://www.at91.com/forum/viewtopic.php/f,4/t,18866/>shows that it will not work in full duplex. The good news is a > patch <http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg31861.html> was released > a month later, fixing the duplex issue. No word on whether anyone has the > 9263 running a full duplex voice call, though. > > Eran > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Gideon Spreeth <gspreeth@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi there, I am in the process of testing pjsip on a SAM9260 board. I have >> done preliminary tests on the AT91SAM9260-EK from atmel The problem is that >> you only have a audio out device so the media side does not work, as stated >> by Eran, But currently with linux (Openembedded, Angstrom) installed, it is >> a very nice platform to work with, And I had no problems getting pjsua and >> other applications to run. >> >> You do get an add on board for this with the TLV320AIC23 audio codec, >> Calypso board( example implementation: >> http://www.ethernut.de/en/documents/sam-web-radio.html ) I have not >> tested this myself, but you can still get them from some sources it seems. >> >> >> >> Our own board was designed similar to evaluation board but with the LM4549 >> Codec on board, will be able to test new hardware within the next week. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Gideon Spreeth >> >> >> >> >> On 28 March 2011 20:21, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey pjsip list, >>> >>> I have been spending the past day trying to find a suitable and tested >>> embedded platform (w/a proper evaluation board including audio) for a 2 >>> channel VoIP gateway running pjsip. It doesn't seem like there is any "out >>> of the box" solution; only hints about what may work. If anyone can point me >>> to a working, verified evaluation board for pjsip - I would be very >>> grateful. Below are the options I've seen so far. >>> >>> There seem to be two strong contenders: AD's Blackfin (uClinux only) and >>> Atmel's AT91SAM9 (uClinux or linux). >>> >>> The Blackfin support is listed in the pjsip documentation<http://www.pjsip.org/sip_media_features.htm> as >>> "underway" but Benny Prijono had a few blog posts explaining how to start >>> working with the Blackfin BF-537 STAMP and AD1836AZ-DBRD audio daughterboard >>> - but no followup as to whether this works, how many channels and >>> performance numbers. >>> >>> The SAM9, has a lot more buzz around it (relatively...). Quite a few >>> forum posts have people asking questions regarding various stages of >>> debugging. The only problem is finding a proper evaluation platform. Atmel's >>> offerings only support an input channel on the higher end SAM9M10-G45-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4735&category_id=163&family_id=605&subfamily_id=1739> (the >>> other EK's only have a DAC), and that too is single channel. Hope is found >>> when looking at 3rd party evaluation kits on the at91 website, such as Ronetix's AT91SAM9261 >>> starter kit<http://www.at91.com/component/resource/article/Tools/35-Kits%20&%20Modules/1106-starter-kit-with-atmel-at91sam9261.html>. >>> However, it doesn't seem like anyone has run pjsip on this platform yet. The >>> pjsip trac shows <http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/PJMEDIA-MIPS>performance figures for the Olimex SAM9-L9260 board, but doesn't say >>> which CODEC daughterboard is used. In addition to that, Olimex has something >>> very close <http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h3131.html> based on an NXP >>> ARM9 device, but it does not have ethernet. D'oh! >>> >>> Other options: >>> Beagleboard w/linphone: Seems to be somewhat tested and easy to deploy. >>> The downside is it is only 1 channel and based on the fairly expensive TI >>> DaVinci. >>> Audiocodes AC48x CPE VoIP Toolkit: All in one, but probably very >>> expensive >>> M53281KIT: Freescale's Coldfire with 3rd party CODECs. Also probably >>> expensive >>> I might also try getting this to work on an MPC875 platform I have laying >>> around (running @ 50MHz), outputting PCM via a transparent SCC. >>> >>> Again, any pointers regarding evaluation platforms would be great. >>> Eran >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >>> >>> pjsip mailing list >>> pjsip@lists.pjsip.org >>> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >> >> pjsip mailing list >> pjsip@lists.pjsip.org >> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >> >> >

Thanks Gideon. Please post your findings (spare us no details...) once you get something breathing. Eran On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Gideon Spreeth <gspreeth@gmail.com> wrote: > No, as far as I've seen it just plugs into the connectors? nothing needs to > be removed.. linux as I use it has drivers for that specific codec, and > many others,standard AC97 support, etc, so its easy enough to incorporate. > But it is probably easier to look at something like that 9263 then, that > has support built in. Also haven't heard of anyone testing on it. > > If all goes well I can at least give stats on the SAM9260 soon, as well as > ease of CODEC driver incorporation etc.. > > Good luck > > Gideon Spreeth > > > On 29 March 2011 10:52, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yep, found about the Caplyso last night. It's 3rd party and requires >> removing the connectors from the EK. However, it seems to only be tested on >> a proprietary RTOS, so it's not out of the box for linux. >> >> In addition, I have also found that even though the Atmel website lists >> the SAM9263-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4057> as >> having a AC97 DAC, in reality it also has an input channel which has been >> tested to work. However, this discussion<http://www.at91.com/forum/viewtopic.php/f,4/t,18866/>shows that it will not work in full duplex. The good news is a >> patch <http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg31861.html> was >> released a month later, fixing the duplex issue. No word on whether anyone >> has the 9263 running a full duplex voice call, though. >> >> Eran >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Gideon Spreeth <gspreeth@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi there, I am in the process of testing pjsip on a SAM9260 board. I have >>> done preliminary tests on the AT91SAM9260-EK from atmel The problem is that >>> you only have a audio out device so the media side does not work, as stated >>> by Eran, But currently with linux (Openembedded, Angstrom) installed, it is >>> a very nice platform to work with, And I had no problems getting pjsua and >>> other applications to run. >>> >>> You do get an add on board for this with the TLV320AIC23 audio codec, >>> Calypso board( example implementation: >>> http://www.ethernut.de/en/documents/sam-web-radio.html ) I have not >>> tested this myself, but you can still get them from some sources it seems. >>> >>> >>> >>> Our own board was designed similar to evaluation board but with the >>> LM4549 Codec on board, will be able to test new hardware within the next >>> week. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Gideon Spreeth >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 March 2011 20:21, Eran Duchan <pavius@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey pjsip list, >>>> >>>> I have been spending the past day trying to find a suitable and tested >>>> embedded platform (w/a proper evaluation board including audio) for a 2 >>>> channel VoIP gateway running pjsip. It doesn't seem like there is any "out >>>> of the box" solution; only hints about what may work. If anyone can point me >>>> to a working, verified evaluation board for pjsip - I would be very >>>> grateful. Below are the options I've seen so far. >>>> >>>> There seem to be two strong contenders: AD's Blackfin (uClinux only) and >>>> Atmel's AT91SAM9 (uClinux or linux). >>>> >>>> The Blackfin support is listed in the pjsip documentation<http://www.pjsip.org/sip_media_features.htm> as >>>> "underway" but Benny Prijono had a few blog posts explaining how to start >>>> working with the Blackfin BF-537 STAMP and AD1836AZ-DBRD audio daughterboard >>>> - but no followup as to whether this works, how many channels and >>>> performance numbers. >>>> >>>> The SAM9, has a lot more buzz around it (relatively...). Quite a few >>>> forum posts have people asking questions regarding various stages of >>>> debugging. The only problem is finding a proper evaluation platform. Atmel's >>>> offerings only support an input channel on the higher end >>>> SAM9M10-G45-EK<http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4735&category_id=163&family_id=605&subfamily_id=1739> (the >>>> other EK's only have a DAC), and that too is single channel. Hope is found >>>> when looking at 3rd party evaluation kits on the at91 website, such as Ronetix's AT91SAM9261 >>>> starter kit<http://www.at91.com/component/resource/article/Tools/35-Kits%20&%20Modules/1106-starter-kit-with-atmel-at91sam9261.html>. >>>> However, it doesn't seem like anyone has run pjsip on this platform yet. The >>>> pjsip trac shows <http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/PJMEDIA-MIPS>performance figures for the Olimex SAM9-L9260 board, but doesn't say >>>> which CODEC daughterboard is used. In addition to that, Olimex has something >>>> very close <http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h3131.html> based on an NXP >>>> ARM9 device, but it does not have ethernet. D'oh! >>>> >>>> Other options: >>>> Beagleboard w/linphone: Seems to be somewhat tested and easy to deploy. >>>> The downside is it is only 1 channel and based on the fairly expensive TI >>>> DaVinci. >>>> Audiocodes AC48x CPE VoIP Toolkit: All in one, but probably very >>>> expensive >>>> M53281KIT: Freescale's Coldfire with 3rd party CODECs. Also probably >>>> expensive >>>> I might also try getting this to work on an MPC875 platform I have >>>> laying around (running @ 50MHz), outputting PCM via a transparent SCC. >>>> >>>> Again, any pointers regarding evaluation platforms would be great. >>>> Eran >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >>>> >>>> pjsip mailing list >>>> pjsip@lists.pjsip.org >>>> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >>> >>> pjsip mailing list >>> pjsip@lists.pjsip.org >>> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip@lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org > >