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Bob Richards
Thu, Feb 5, 2004 5:10 PM

Hi All:

It's Oil-Change time. What I want to do this oil-change is fit a
pipe/valve assembly onto the oil pan drain plug so I can easily and more
importantly less-messilly drain the oil from the engine.

The Idea is to fit a valve (brass ball valve?) to the pan, attach it to
a 12v pump; then at change-time, heat the engine, open valve, pump the
oil into the waste tank; then pump fresh oil in from a new 5 gal can.

We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size
needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is
make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug.

Getting parts here is not easy, so if I knew the size it would make life
a little easier. I don't want to be "down" for any extended period of
time, as the cold mandates I run the engine at least once every 4 days,
both to warm the engine room and to blow the slush/ice away from the
perimiter of the boat. So far we have managed to avoid being hard-frozen
in place, but this takes constant work and attention.

TIA

Bob

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Bob, Kelly & Tania (the cat)
M/V Tamara B Cape Elisebeth Me.
http://www.tamara-b.org
currently at N40.36.48 W73.55.09

Hi All: It's Oil-Change time. What I want to do this oil-change is fit a pipe/valve assembly onto the oil pan drain plug so I can easily and more importantly less-messilly drain the oil from the engine. The Idea is to fit a valve (brass ball valve?) to the pan, attach it to a 12v pump; then at change-time, heat the engine, open valve, pump the oil into the waste tank; then pump fresh oil in from a new 5 gal can. We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug. Getting parts here is not easy, so if I knew the size it would make life a little easier. I don't want to be "down" for any extended period of time, as the cold mandates I run the engine at least once every 4 days, both to warm the engine room and to blow the slush/ice away from the perimiter of the boat. So far we have managed to avoid being hard-frozen in place, but this takes constant work and attention. TIA Bob -- ------------------------------------- Bob, Kelly & Tania (the cat) M/V Tamara B Cape Elisebeth Me. http://www.tamara-b.org currently at N40.36.48 W73.55.09 -------------------------------------
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Bob Lowe
Thu, Feb 5, 2004 5:31 PM

Bob,

We just went through this on Dreamer with John Deere engines.  I called the
supplier, told them the engine model etc. and they brought in the drain
plugs and machined them to accommodate a hydraulic o-ring elbow to a ball
valve, as you describe.  With the hydraulic fitting, I was able to tighten
the drain plug into the pan and then align the elbow as I wanted before
tightening the jam nut on the o-ring.  All went smoothly.

Good luck,

Bob Lowe

The Idea is to fit a valve (brass ball valve?) to the pan, attach it to

a 12v pump; then at change-time, heat the engine, open valve, pump the
oil into the waste tank; then pump fresh oil in from a new 5 gal can.

We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size
needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is
make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug.

Getting parts here is not easy, so if I knew the size it would make life
a little easier. I don't want to be "down" for any extended period of
time, as the cold mandates I run the engine at least once every 4 days,
both to warm the engine room and to blow the slush/ice away from the
perimiter of the boat. So far we have managed to avoid being hard-frozen
in place, but this takes constant work and attention.<<<<


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Bob, We just went through this on Dreamer with John Deere engines. I called the supplier, told them the engine model etc. and they brought in the drain plugs and machined them to accommodate a hydraulic o-ring elbow to a ball valve, as you describe. With the hydraulic fitting, I was able to tighten the drain plug into the pan and then align the elbow as I wanted before tightening the jam nut on the o-ring. All went smoothly. Good luck, Bob Lowe >>>>The Idea is to fit a valve (brass ball valve?) to the pan, attach it to a 12v pump; then at change-time, heat the engine, open valve, pump the oil into the waste tank; then pump fresh oil in from a new 5 gal can. We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug. Getting parts here is not easy, so if I knew the size it would make life a little easier. I don't want to be "down" for any extended period of time, as the cold mandates I run the engine at least once every 4 days, both to warm the engine room and to blow the slush/ice away from the perimiter of the boat. So far we have managed to avoid being hard-frozen in place, but this takes constant work and attention.<<<< --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.571 / Virus Database: 361 - Release Date: 1/26/2004
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Brent Hodges
Thu, Feb 5, 2004 5:55 PM

We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size
needed to fit this particular drain plug?

Hi Bob,
You might try Bob Smith at American Diesel. They have an oil drain kit for
the Lehmans, and now that they also are the dealer for Perkins, they
probably have the kit for them also. My boat has these plumbed into the Oil
X-Change-R from both engines & the genset and it really takes the mess out
of the oil changes. I even recently plumbed mine into the transmissions
also.

Brent Hodges
M/V Friendship
Seabrook, Tx

> We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size > needed to fit this particular drain plug? Hi Bob, You might try Bob Smith at American Diesel. They have an oil drain kit for the Lehmans, and now that they also are the dealer for Perkins, they probably have the kit for them also. My boat has these plumbed into the Oil X-Change-R from both engines & the genset and it really takes the mess out of the oil changes. I even recently plumbed mine into the transmissions also. Brent Hodges M/V Friendship Seabrook, Tx
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m/v MOJO
Thu, Feb 5, 2004 8:13 PM

We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size
needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is
make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug.

Won't help you make up an assembly ahead of time, but I took the oil drain
plug from my Cummins to a machine shop and had them turn me a new plug with
the engine oil pan on one end and a threaded hole thru the middle that I
could screw a 3/8" pipe into.  I then put a ball valve on the end of the
pipe and ran a hose off the ball valve.  Makes draining the engine oil a
snap.

Ray B.
m/v MOJO

> We have a Perkins 6-354t. Would anyone happen to know the thread/size > needed to fit this particular drain plug? What I would like to do is > make up the assembly before I pull the drain plug. > Won't help you make up an assembly ahead of time, but I took the oil drain plug from my Cummins to a machine shop and had them turn me a new plug with the engine oil pan on one end and a threaded hole thru the middle that I could screw a 3/8" pipe into. I then put a ball valve on the end of the pipe and ran a hose off the ball valve. Makes draining the engine oil a snap. Ray B. m/v MOJO
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Fri, Feb 6, 2004 3:09 AM

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