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Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

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EWKehren@aol.com
Sun, Apr 1, 2012 8:44 PM

Thanks Mike

In a message dated 4/1/2012 4:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mblazer@satx.rr.com writes:

The  JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of
the  LM339.

Mike

On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, EWKehren@aol.com  wrote:

Paul thank you.
I tried google and only got  links to advertise other parts. Makes

sense,

unit has a summary  bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives a lock
output.  Different from M100 and other Efratom products. Still hunting

for the

85  Hz, 127 Hz on the M100 is 5V pp into the phase detector. can not

rule

out the  actual cell, maybe the step recovery diode. Will  try every

thing else

before I  go there.
Bert.

In a message dated 4/1/2012 3:14:55 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
paulswedb@gmail.com writes:

Strange  indeed Bert I put the whole number into google and had 5 hits.

The

first  number is actually JM then the number but its a quad  voltage
comparator  according to the data archive. pdf is  available and looks

like

numbers of  manufacturers made it. PMI  TI Nat nalog dev. They are still
available  also.
Regards
Paul.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:50  PM,EWKehren@aol.com  wrote:

In the past I  have asked if some  one has any info of the Efratom

M3100. I

have carefully dissected the  unit and checked functionality. It  sweeps

but

does  not lock.  Lamp signal is  strong  60 MHz and 5.xx all work

properly

and

can  be seen on a spectrum analyzer The problem is in  the  loop and

there

is

not  enough signal into  the phase detector.  Trying to follow the

detector

output  is  challenging because lack  of information and packaging

density.

Typical loop  frequency in  a M100 is 127/254  in this case I see

85/160. I

would
expect in  a  military application they would go up not down for

vibration

purposes. Tracing  the circuits is also  made more difficult because of

the

use
of mil  parts and mil  nomenclature. I have most  cross correlated and I

am

down to one PMI part    38510/11201BCA. Does any one  have any info,

such a

nice unit, would  like to make  it  work.
Thanks    Bert Kehren
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Thanks Mike In a message dated 4/1/2012 4:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mblazer@satx.rr.com writes: The JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of the LM339. Mike On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, EWKehren@aol.com wrote: > Paul thank you. > I tried google and only got links to advertise other parts. Makes sense, > unit has a summary bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives a lock > output. Different from M100 and other Efratom products. Still hunting for the > 85 Hz, 127 Hz on the M100 is 5V pp into the phase detector. can not rule > out the actual cell, maybe the step recovery diode. Will try every thing else > before I go there. > Bert. > > > In a message dated 4/1/2012 3:14:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > paulswedb@gmail.com writes: > > Strange indeed Bert I put the whole number into google and had 5 hits. The > first number is actually JM then the number but its a quad voltage > comparator according to the data archive. pdf is available and looks like > numbers of manufacturers made it. PMI TI Nat nalog dev. They are still > available also. > Regards > Paul. > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM,<EWKehren@aol.com> wrote: > >> In the past I have asked if some one has any info of the Efratom M3100. I >> have carefully dissected the unit and checked functionality. It sweeps > but >> does not lock. Lamp signal is strong 60 MHz and 5.xx all work properly >> and >> can be seen on a spectrum analyzer The problem is in the loop and there > is >> not enough signal into the phase detector. Trying to follow the detector >> output is challenging because lack of information and packaging density. >> Typical loop frequency in a M100 is 127/254 in this case I see 85/160. I >> would >> expect in a military application they would go up not down for vibration >> purposes. Tracing the circuits is also made more difficult because of > the >> use >> of mil parts and mil nomenclature. I have most cross correlated and I am >> down to one PMI part 38510/11201BCA. Does any one have any info, such a >> nice unit, would like to make it work. >> Thanks Bert Kehren >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.