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Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Board

E
ew
Fri, Oct 26, 2018 6:25 PM

It is two layer and I added an amp with two transformer outputs.
I am not going to get in to board selling or shipping to oldBert

In a message dated 10/26/2018 1:22:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, aphid1@comcast.net writes:

Bert,

  That looks like a useful board. Certainly some of the oscillators
I'm giving away would fit nicely on it.  Since it looks like a two
layer board, a quick check at pcbway.com puts the cost at $.79
apiece at the 100 quantity exclusive of shipping.

Best,

Bob Martin

On 10/26/2018 4:17 AM, ew via time-nuts wrote:

There recently was a request for an OCXO board. I did a layout, see attached and had Corby do his usual QC test.

If some one is interested to make boards and maybe sell to other time nuts please contact me off list and I will get you code and possible suppliers.

Board does not have an amp  but could be added, if so, please advise, what should be added. Regardless what the direct output will remain

Bert Kehren


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It is two layer and I added an amp with two transformer outputs. I am not going to get in to board selling or shipping to oldBert In a message dated 10/26/2018 1:22:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, aphid1@comcast.net writes: Bert,   That looks like a useful board. Certainly some of the oscillators I'm giving away would fit nicely on it.  Since it looks like a two layer board, a quick check at pcbway.com puts the cost at $.79 apiece at the 100 quantity exclusive of shipping. Best, Bob Martin On 10/26/2018 4:17 AM, ew via time-nuts wrote: > > > There recently was a request for an OCXO board. I did a layout, see attached and had Corby do his usual QC test. > > > If some one is interested to make boards and maybe sell to other time nuts please contact me off list and I will get you code and possible suppliers. > > Board does not have an amp  but could be added, if so, please advise, what should be added. Regardless what the direct output will remain > > Bert Kehren > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Mark Goldberg
Fri, Oct 26, 2018 10:43 PM

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:27 AM ew via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com
wrote:

It is two layer and I added an amp with two transformer outputs.
I am not going to get in to board selling or shipping to oldBert

Although it is not the cheapest, OSHPark will let you upload your board as
gerbers and share it with the world. Then anyone can order boards directly
from them and you do not have to be involved at all. They have good quality
ENIG plated boards, great to solder to. You can list other info too.

Regards,

Mark

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:27 AM ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > It is two layer and I added an amp with two transformer outputs. > I am not going to get in to board selling or shipping to oldBert > > Although it is not the cheapest, OSHPark will let you upload your board as gerbers and share it with the world. Then anyone can order boards directly from them and you do not have to be involved at all. They have good quality ENIG plated boards, great to solder to. You can list other info too. Regards, Mark
GH
Gerhard Hoffmann
Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:41 AM

I have made a similar board for Morion MV-89, MTI-260 and HP10811.

It has regulators for all voltages required (worst case for all types),
can lock to an

external reference ( ring mixer from Macom/Pulse el cheapo transformers
and and diode quartet),

LMH6702 buffers), power level indicator for ref, usual Wenzel style diff
amp squarer

or Linear technology squarer depending on personal preference.

It can produce 1pps from the oscillator with either a $1.50 CPLD

or TVB's PICDIV.  1pps drives 3V into 50 Ohm. Should be enough for
contemporary

CMOS. The CPLD has enough resources to lock the OCXO to an external 1pps.

That has not been tested, I also have no PICDIV. But there isn't much to it.

There is also an SMA for external EFC.

The output amplifier can deliver 20 dBm and act optionally as a doubler,
5 to 10 MHz

for example. There are 2 harmonic notches with either crystals or toroids.

I only had to click together some macros from my library, and since
especially the 10811

needs so much space, there was free epoxy, so to say. The board could be
sawed to

to pieces in principle, if someone should be interested in LMH6702
buffers, mixer,

doubler... There is some "air" between the functions.  The subcircuits
have I/Os on a 100 mil grid

so they can be easily arranged on Vector board. (with a ground plane,
please!)

Circuits / Gerbers / Altium Designer files are available.

I wanted to lock 16 MTI-260s loosely to a common reference and Wilkinson

them together to see how far I could come wrt phase noise. I have them
already here,

but I'll find no time for that in the foreseeable future.

That guy who sold the LUCENT KS24361 plug-ins had made me an offer I
could not deny.

Ask me if you need Lucent spare parts! I was only after the oscillators.

My interest has kinda slipped into 1/f noise in baseband and chopper
amplifiers.

Bottom side.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30952263115/in/album-72157662535945536/
       >

Top side:

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30952252115/in/album-72157662535945536/
       >

best regards,

Gerhard

While I'm at it, this is the phase noise of the FE405 that I got from
the group buy

here, some time ago.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30824608092/in/album-72157662535945536/
  >

Is that uproar far out normal?   But over seconds to minutes it dives
down nicely into E-13 land.

Am 26.10.18 um 20:25 schrieb ew via time-nuts:

I have made a similar board for Morion MV-89, MTI-260 and HP10811. It has regulators for all voltages required (worst case for all types), can lock to an external reference ( ring mixer from Macom/Pulse el cheapo transformers and and diode quartet), LMH6702 buffers), power level indicator for ref, usual Wenzel style diff amp squarer or Linear technology squarer depending on personal preference. It can produce 1pps from the oscillator with either a $1.50 CPLD or TVB's PICDIV.  1pps drives 3V into 50 Ohm. Should be enough for contemporary CMOS. The CPLD has enough resources to lock the OCXO to an external 1pps. That has not been tested, I also have no PICDIV. But there isn't much to it. There is also an SMA for external EFC. The output amplifier can deliver 20 dBm and act optionally as a doubler, 5 to 10 MHz for example. There are 2 harmonic notches with either crystals or toroids. I only had to click together some macros from my library, and since especially the 10811 needs so much space, there was free epoxy, so to say. The board could be sawed to to pieces in principle, if someone should be interested in LMH6702 buffers, mixer, doubler... There is some "air" between the functions.  The subcircuits have I/Os on a 100 mil grid so they can be easily arranged on Vector board. (with a ground plane, please!) Circuits / Gerbers / Altium Designer files are available. I wanted to lock 16 MTI-260s loosely to a common reference and Wilkinson them together to see how far I could come wrt phase noise. I have them already here, but I'll find no time for that in the foreseeable future. That guy who sold the LUCENT KS24361 plug-ins had made me an offer I could not deny. Ask me if you need Lucent spare parts! I was only after the oscillators. My interest has kinda slipped into 1/f noise in baseband and chopper amplifiers. Bottom side. < https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30952263115/in/album-72157662535945536/        > Top side: < https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30952252115/in/album-72157662535945536/        > best regards, Gerhard While I'm at it, this is the phase noise of the FE405 that I got from the group buy here, some time ago. < https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/30824608092/in/album-72157662535945536/   > Is that uproar far out normal?   But over seconds to minutes it dives down nicely into E-13 land. Am 26.10.18 um 20:25 schrieb ew via time-nuts: