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ufomorace

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 4:37 PM

Hi, i have noticed that sometimes my graphics card it going at 2 FPS when
displaying an assembly of 500 cubes inside 2-3 unions-differences. My
graphics card can display 16trillion vertices per nanosecond and and has
liquid nitrogen heatsink assembly. What is the speed because? Is the program
sending a giant raft of data to the graphics card on every frame? What is
the bottleneck due to? what are the codes in openscad that communicate with
the graphics card? is it DX or GL based?

Please tell me where are the library functions that regulate the graphics
card vertices and array inputs? Is the entire coordinate system sent to the
graphics card and rotated? where is the camera object in the openscad code?
is it moving around the object?

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Hi, i have noticed that sometimes my graphics card it going at 2 FPS when displaying an assembly of 500 cubes inside 2-3 unions-differences. My graphics card can display 16trillion vertices per nanosecond and and has liquid nitrogen heatsink assembly. What is the speed because? Is the program sending a giant raft of data to the graphics card on every frame? What is the bottleneck due to? what are the codes in openscad that communicate with the graphics card? is it DX or GL based? Please tell me where are the library functions that regulate the graphics card vertices and array inputs? Is the entire coordinate system sent to the graphics card and rotated? where is the camera object in the openscad code? is it moving around the object? -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Torsten Paul

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 4:50 PM

Because:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F

And also:
https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering

ciao,
Torsten.

Because: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F And also: https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering ciao, Torsten.

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Michael AtOz

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 8:46 PM

Hi Torsten,

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor any of his
other posts, so something is off.
If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check out its
headers etc.

Thanks,
Michael

On 20 September 2015 at 02:50, Torsten Paul Torsten.Paul@gmx.de wrote:

Because:

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F

And also:

https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering

ciao,
Torsten.

OpenSCAD mailing list
Discuss@lists.openscad.org
http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

Hi Torsten, Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor any of his other posts, so something is off. If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check out its headers etc. Thanks, Michael On 20 September 2015 at 02:50, Torsten Paul <Torsten.Paul@gmx.de> wrote: > > Because: > > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F > > And also: > > https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering > > ciao, > Torsten. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

NH

nop head

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:01 PM

All of ufomorace's emails go into my spam folder, despite me continually
marking them as not spam. Google doesn't like his email address.

On 19 September 2015 at 21:46, Michael AtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Torsten,

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor any of his
other posts, so something is off.
If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check out its
headers etc.

Thanks,
Michael

On 20 September 2015 at 02:50, Torsten Paul Torsten.Paul@gmx.de wrote:

Because:

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F

And also:

https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering

ciao,
Torsten.

OpenSCAD mailing list
Discuss@lists.openscad.org
http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

All of ufomorace's emails go into my spam folder, despite me continually marking them as not spam. Google doesn't like his email address. On 19 September 2015 at 21:46, Michael AtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Torsten, > > Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor any of his > other posts, so something is off. > If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check out its > headers etc. > > Thanks, > Michael > > On 20 September 2015 at 02:50, Torsten Paul <Torsten.Paul@gmx.de> wrote: > >> >> Because: >> >> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#Why_is_the_preview_so_slow.3F >> >> And also: >> >> https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Project%3A-Improve-OpenGL-rendering >> >> ciao, >> Torsten. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > >

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Torsten Paul

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:01 PM

On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote:

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor
any of his other posts, so something is off.

Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX
does not use or something?

If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check
out its headers etc.

Mail with full headers out as direct mail...

ciao,
Torsten.

On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote: > Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor > any of his other posts, so something is off. > Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX does not use or something? > If you did get an email could you forward it to me so I can check > out its headers etc. > Mail with full headers out as direct mail... ciao, Torsten.

TP

Torsten Paul

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:18 PM

On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote:

On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote:

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor
any of his other posts, so something is off.

Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX
does not use or something?

Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from.

The path for the forum post is

Original Post nabble.com (forum)
Mail server nabble.com
emwd.com (mailing list)
Receiver (gmx.de in my case)

Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble
is not in the path, only emwd.com.

ciao,
Torsten.

On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote: > On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote: >> Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor >> any of his other posts, so something is off. >> > Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX > does not use or something? > Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from. The path for the forum post is 1) Original Post nabble.com (forum) 2) Mail server nabble.com 3) emwd.com (mailing list) 4) Receiver (gmx.de in my case) Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble is not in the path, only emwd.com. ciao, Torsten.

NH

nop head

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:32 PM

Have you checked your spam folder? I get all of his emails, so they get
sent OK from the mailing list. I just have to dig them out of my spam.

On 19 September 2015 at 22:18, Torsten Paul Torsten.Paul@gmx.de wrote:

On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote:

On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote:

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor
any of his other posts, so something is off.

Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX
does not use or something?

Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from.

The path for the forum post is

Original Post nabble.com (forum)
Mail server nabble.com
emwd.com (mailing list)
Receiver (gmx.de in my case)

Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble
is not in the path, only emwd.com.

ciao,
Torsten.

OpenSCAD mailing list
Discuss@lists.openscad.org
http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

Have you checked your spam folder? I get all of his emails, so they get sent OK from the mailing list. I just have to dig them out of my spam. On 19 September 2015 at 22:18, Torsten Paul <Torsten.Paul@gmx.de> wrote: > On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote: > > On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote: > >> Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor > >> any of his other posts, so something is off. > >> > > Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX > > does not use or something? > > > Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from. > > The path for the forum post is > > 1) Original Post nabble.com (forum) > 2) Mail server nabble.com > 3) emwd.com (mailing list) > 4) Receiver (gmx.de in my case) > > Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble > is not in the path, only emwd.com. > > ciao, > Torsten. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

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OzAtMichael

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:32 PM

Yeh, as Nophead said, they were in my gmail spam folder. Trouble is I have that account forwarded,
so I don't see the spam unless I go looking.

It said that his yahoo address did not pass the yahoo checks (called from gmail).

ufomorace - you may want to check you yahoo mail account.

Lots of people on the mailing list use gmail and your posts get sent to spam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Paul
Sent: Sunday, 20 September 2015 7:19 AM
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] graphics card speed in openSCAD

On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote:

On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote:

Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor
any of his other posts, so something is off.

Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX
does not use or something?

Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from.

The path for the forum post is

Original Post nabble.com (forum)
Mail server nabble.com
emwd.com (mailing list)
Receiver (gmx.de in my case)

Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble
is not in the path, only emwd.com.

ciao,
Torsten.

OpenSCAD mailing list
Discuss@lists.openscad.org
http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

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Yeh, as Nophead said, they were in my gmail spam folder. Trouble is I have that account forwarded, so I don't see the spam unless I go looking. It said that his yahoo address did not pass the yahoo checks (called from gmail). ufomorace - you may want to check you yahoo mail account. Lots of people on the mailing list use gmail and your posts get sent to spam. > -----Original Message----- > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Paul > Sent: Sunday, 20 September 2015 7:19 AM > To: discuss@lists.openscad.org > Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] graphics card speed in openSCAD > > On 09/19/2015 11:01 PM, Torsten Paul wrote: > > On 09/19/2015 10:46 PM, Michael AtOz wrote: > >> Did you get the OP as an email from the list? As I didn't, nor > >> any of his other posts, so something is off. > >> > > Yep, I did. Maybe Nabble ended up on some block list that GMX > > does not use or something? > > > Uh, wait, it's not Nabble it's received from. > > The path for the forum post is > > 1) Original Post nabble.com (forum) > 2) Mail server nabble.com > 3) emwd.com (mailing list) > 4) Receiver (gmx.de in my case) > > Just using the mailing list it's different as Nabble > is not in the path, only emwd.com. > > ciao, > Torsten. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10667 - Release Date: 09/19/15 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4419/10652 - Release Date: 09/16/15 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4419/10652 - Release Date: 09/16/15 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10667 - Release Date: 09/19/15

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ufomorace

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:34 PM

Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it is
a very complex renderer.

For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a
single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the
individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about
development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail to
the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub buttons, and
the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out the program and
had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that my email isnt
recognized.

Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\

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Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it is a very complex renderer. For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail to the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub buttons, and the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out the program and had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that my email isnt recognized. Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\ -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909p13917.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

NH

nop head

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 9:50 PM

This is what I get:
Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com but has
failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5

On 19 September 2015 at 22:34, ufomorace ant.stewart@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it
is
a very complex renderer.

For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a
single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the
individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about
development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail
to
the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub buttons,
and
the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out the program
and
had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that my email isnt
recognized.

Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\

--
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http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909p13917.html
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This is what I get: *Why is this message in Spam?* It has a from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5> On 19 September 2015 at 22:34, ufomorace <ant.stewart@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it > is > a very complex renderer. > > For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a > single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the > individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about > development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail > to > the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub buttons, > and > the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out the program > and > had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that my email isnt > recognized. > > Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\ > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909p13917.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

TP

Torsten Paul

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 10:23 PM

On 09/19/2015 11:34 PM, ufomorace wrote:

Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it is
a very complex renderer.

At least the F6 result rendering is pretty easy, I don't know
enough about the preview stuff (that is how OpenCSG works in
detail) yet to judge that part.

I wrote a simple 3d mesh viewer to learn about how to use the
more modern OpenGL stuff, especially putting all data directly
into the graphics card and using shaders to display the mesh
(https://github.com/t-paul/3dview/).
The ideal solution would be to use some library to make it
even easier. I still did not manage to find the time to have
a closer look at Magnum (http://mosra.cz/blog/index-en.php)
but that seems like a nice option and the main developer is
also very active and helpful.

My impression is that the biggest part in improving the OpenSCAD
rendering code is to do it in a way that works on all platforms.
There seem to be still lots of systems that are not capable of
using modern OpenGL (mainly due to missing/obsolete graphics
drivers).

ciao,
Torsten.

On 09/19/2015 11:34 PM, ufomorace wrote: > Hi there, Thanks Torsten i'll have to learn some new graphics concepts. it is > a very complex renderer. > At least the F6 result rendering is pretty easy, I don't know enough about the preview stuff (that is how OpenCSG works in detail) yet to judge that part. I wrote a simple 3d mesh viewer to learn about how to use the more modern OpenGL stuff, especially putting all data directly into the graphics card and using shaders to display the mesh (https://github.com/t-paul/3dview/). The ideal solution would be to use some library to make it even easier. I still did not manage to find the time to have a closer look at Magnum (http://mosra.cz/blog/index-en.php) but that seems like a nice option and the main developer is also very active and helpful. My impression is that the biggest part in improving the OpenSCAD rendering code is to do it in a way that works on all platforms. There seem to be still lots of systems that are not capable of using modern OpenGL (mainly due to missing/obsolete graphics drivers). ciao, Torsten.

TP

Torsten Paul

Sat, Sep 19, 2015 10:28 PM

On 09/19/2015 11:50 PM, nop head wrote:

This is what I get:
Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com but has
failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5

Right, that makes sense. If I post on the forum, I'm even getting
an error message from the mailing list as Nabble is trying to post
using my gmx.de address. As GMX is using SPF the mailing list
correctly rejects the mail as it's not coming from a listed server.

Looks like gmail is using similar information for spam detection.

ciao,
Torsten.

On 09/19/2015 11:50 PM, nop head wrote: > This is what I get: > *Why is this message in Spam?* It has a from address in yahoo.com but has > failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more > <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5> > Right, that makes sense. If I post on the forum, I'm even getting an error message from the mailing list as Nabble is trying to post using my gmx.de address. As GMX is using SPF the mailing list correctly rejects the mail as it's not coming from a listed server. Looks like gmail is using similar information for spam detection. ciao, Torsten.

M

MichaelAtOz

Mon, Sep 21, 2015 2:03 AM

ufomorace wrote

For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a
single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the
individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about
development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail
to the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub
buttons, and the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out
the program and had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that
my email isnt recognized.

Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\

I just checked the forum (nable) and mailing list settings for you and they
look normal.
I think the issue is in your yahoo account, you may want to poke around
there.
Your posts (after they are sent) are still getting dropped as spam by gmail.

Newly minted Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

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ufomorace wrote > For my email, here is what happened. I subscribed 4 months ago to as a > single question and i wasn't familiar with the software. I took the > individual messaging by mistake and i recieved 50 emails that were about > development that i didn't grasp. I thought it would be ok to put the mail > to the spam folder for the time being until i could find the unsub > buttons, and the mail at the time was fine on subscription. I figured out > the program and had to be on the list again and i subbed again except that > my email isnt recognized. > > Sorry about that. It's difficult to keep things tidy on the pc. :\ I just checked the forum (nable) and mailing list settings for you and they look normal. I think the issue is in your yahoo account, you may want to poke around there. Your posts (after they are sent) are still getting dropped as spam by gmail. ----- Newly minted Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909p13940.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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MichaelAtOz

Mon, Sep 21, 2015 2:06 AM

tp3 wrote

On 09/19/2015 11:50 PM, nop head wrote:

This is what I get:
Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com but has
failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5>

Right, that makes sense. If I post on the forum, I'm even getting
an error message from the mailing list as Nabble is trying to post
using my gmx.de address. As GMX is using SPF the mailing list
correctly rejects the mail as it's not coming from a listed server.

Looks like gmail is using similar information for spam detection.

ciao,
Torsten.

OpenSCAD mailing list

Discuss@.openscad

http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

What sort of error message?

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Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

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tp3 wrote > On 09/19/2015 11:50 PM, nop head wrote: >> This is what I get: >> *Why is this message in Spam?* It has a from address in yahoo.com but has >> failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more >> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en-GB&expand=5> >> > Right, that makes sense. If I post on the forum, I'm even getting > an error message from the mailing list as Nabble is trying to post > using my gmx.de address. As GMX is using SPF the mailing list > correctly rejects the mail as it's not coming from a listed server. > > Looks like gmail is using similar information for spam detection. > > ciao, > Torsten. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@.openscad > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org What sort of error message? ----- Newly minted Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/graphics-card-speed-in-openSCAD-tp13909p13941.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

TP

Torsten Paul

Mon, Sep 21, 2015 6:22 AM

On 09/21/2015 04:06 AM, MichaelAtOz wrote:

What sort of error message?

This looks like:

--1F25B15F8D0A.1442815653/mbob.nabble.com
Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is the mail system at host mbob.nabble.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

               The mail system

discuss@lists.openscad.org: host lists.openscad.org[192.151.138.16] said: 550
SPF: 162.253.133.15 is not allowed to send mail from gmx.de (in reply to
RCPT TO command)

--1F25B15F8D0A.1442815653/mbob.nabble.com

And that's totally the correct thing to do, but it breaks
the Nabble/Mailing list integration.

GMX has SPF set up (e.g. list with "dig gmx.de txt"):

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gmx.de. 300 IN TXT "google-site-verification=8jV5RCya962H1ur14xR3xWCFUBsExt_YibC3HkuJ9X8"
gmx.de. 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:213.165.64.0/23 ip4:74.208.5.64/26 ip4:212.227.126.128/25 ip4:212.227.15.0/25 ip4:212.227.17.0/27
ip4:74.208.4.192/26 ip4:82.165.159.0/24 ip4:217.72.207.0/27 -all"

And the Nabble IP Address obviously can't be in that list,
so the mailing list is rejecting the mail.

ciao,
Torsten.

On 09/21/2015 04:06 AM, MichaelAtOz wrote: > What sort of error message? > This looks like: --1F25B15F8D0A.1442815653/mbob.nabble.com Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the mail system at host mbob.nabble.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <discuss@lists.openscad.org>: host lists.openscad.org[192.151.138.16] said: 550 SPF: 162.253.133.15 is not allowed to send mail from gmx.de (in reply to RCPT TO command) --1F25B15F8D0A.1442815653/mbob.nabble.com And that's totally the correct thing to do, but it breaks the Nabble/Mailing list integration. GMX has SPF set up (e.g. list with "dig gmx.de txt"): ;; ANSWER SECTION: gmx.de. 300 IN TXT "google-site-verification=8jV5RCya962H1ur14xR3xWCFUBsExt_YibC3HkuJ9X8" gmx.de. 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:213.165.64.0/23 ip4:74.208.5.64/26 ip4:212.227.126.128/25 ip4:212.227.15.0/25 ip4:212.227.17.0/27 ip4:74.208.4.192/26 ip4:82.165.159.0/24 ip4:217.72.207.0/27 -all" And the Nabble IP Address obviously can't be in that list, so the mailing list is rejecting the mail. ciao, Torsten.