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philkeys@olympus.net

Mon, Jan 15, 2001 12:48 AM

The other day our harbormaster and I were talking and he said he used to
work for a petroleum producer. One of the things they had to do before
delivering product was to check for water. A little was OK but not
much. The customer didn't want to pay for water. So they used a paste on
the gauge (dip) sticks that turned red (actually dark purple) when it
contacted water, showing the depth of water in the tank.

This sounded useful, so I stopped by our friendly commercial fuel and oil
distributor and bought a tube of it. Its called Sar-Gel and cost $11 for a
1 oz tube. The instructions on the tube say to spread a thin film of paste
on the stick and leave it in the tank for 10 seconds, then pull out and
observe the paste color.

The tube says for information or orders:

United States: Sartomer (800) 345-8247
Europe: Societe' Cray Valley 33-1 41 35 68 68
Asia and Pacifc Rim: Sartomer 65-334-2645/334-2646

The local oil company also found for me hydraulic fluid for my hydraulic
steering. It's Texaco red aircraft hydraulic oil 5606G petroleum
based. "Qualified against MIL-H-5606G for automatic pilots, hydraulic
systems, shock struts, etc. Do not mix this product with blue colored
caster oil based hydraulic fluid. Destroy all marking on this container
when empty. Net 1 .S. gallon"

Now why do they want you to destroy all markings?

Phil Keys
"Kathy K" Sundowner 30 Tug, hull #3
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
(360) 379-8650
philkeys@olympus.net

The other day our harbormaster and I were talking and he said he used to work for a petroleum producer. One of the things they had to do before delivering product was to check for water. A little was OK but not much. The customer didn't want to pay for water. So they used a paste on the gauge (dip) sticks that turned red (actually dark purple) when it contacted water, showing the depth of water in the tank. This sounded useful, so I stopped by our friendly commercial fuel and oil distributor and bought a tube of it. Its called Sar-Gel and cost $11 for a 1 oz tube. The instructions on the tube say to spread a thin film of paste on the stick and leave it in the tank for 10 seconds, then pull out and observe the paste color. The tube says for information or orders: United States: Sartomer (800) 345-8247 Europe: Societe' Cray Valley 33-1 41 35 68 68 Asia and Pacifc Rim: Sartomer 65-334-2645/334-2646 The local oil company also found for me hydraulic fluid for my hydraulic steering. It's Texaco red aircraft hydraulic oil 5606G petroleum based. "Qualified against MIL-H-5606G for automatic pilots, hydraulic systems, shock struts, etc. Do not mix this product with blue colored caster oil based hydraulic fluid. Destroy all marking on this container when empty. Net 1 .S. gallon" Now why do they want you to destroy all markings? Phil Keys "Kathy K" Sundowner 30 Tug, hull #3 Port Hadlock, WA 98339 (360) 379-8650 philkeys@olympus.net

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schooleymike@pe.net

Mon, Jan 15, 2001 1:52 AM

"Now why do they want you to destroy all markings?"

Because the markings on the can define how to store and dispose of the
hydraulic fluid, but once it is empty you can do what ever you like with the
empty can.

Red Beard

"Now why do they want you to destroy all markings?" Because the markings on the can define how to store and dispose of the hydraulic fluid, but once it is empty you can do what ever you like with the empty can. Red Beard

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Mon, Jan 15, 2001 2:41 AM

The local oil company also found for me hydraulic fluid for my hydraulic
steering. It's Texaco red aircraft hydraulic oil 5606G petroleum
based. "Qualified against MIL-H-5606G for automatic pilots, hydraulic
systems, shock struts, etc.
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Phil
I've been using Dextron 3 in my Hy-Nautic steering for the last 5 years.
Works great, and real solid feel. For what its worth.
.
Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

>The local oil company also found for me hydraulic fluid for my hydraulic >steering. It's Texaco red aircraft hydraulic oil 5606G petroleum >based. "Qualified against MIL-H-5606G for automatic pilots, hydraulic >systems, shock struts, etc. ===================================== Phil I've been using Dextron 3 in my Hy-Nautic steering for the last 5 years. Works great, and real solid feel. For what its worth. . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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alexh@gte.net

Mon, Jan 15, 2001 2:51 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Keys" philkeys@olympus.net

I stopped by our friendly commercial fuel and oil
distributor and bought a tube of it. Its called Sar-Gel and cost $11 for

a

1 oz tube. The instructions on the tube say to spread a thin film of

paste

on the stick and leave it in the tank for 10 seconds, then pull out and
observe the paste color.

"Qualified against MIL-H-5606G Destroy all marking on this container
when empty."

Now why do they want you to destroy all markings?

Hi Phil,

There's another product called "Color Cut" that does the same thing that's
actually a bit more commonly available.

That 10 second rule is important! As you're lowering the stick through the
fuel the diesel forms a barrier film and it takes some time for the water to
get to the paste. Once the water touches the paste the color change is
virtually instant.

The reason for destroying the markings on the empty can is the same reason
that your pharmacist doesn't want you to reuse prescription bottles. When
you're dealing with aircraft products especially Texaco doesn't want anyone
putting the wrong stuff in the tank because of mislabeling (or for any other
reason for that matter).

FWIW: That product is serious overkill for your application but it will work
just fine and it's nice that it comes in a more manageable package size. The
red dye can be handy for finding leaks as well (it may even fluoresce under
a black light).

Colorfully yours,

Alex

----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Keys" <philkeys@olympus.net> > I stopped by our friendly commercial fuel and oil > distributor and bought a tube of it. Its called Sar-Gel and cost $11 for a > 1 oz tube. The instructions on the tube say to spread a thin film of paste > on the stick and leave it in the tank for 10 seconds, then pull out and > observe the paste color. > > > "Qualified against MIL-H-5606G Destroy all marking on this container > when empty." > > Now why do they want you to destroy all markings? > Hi Phil, There's another product called "Color Cut" that does the same thing that's actually a bit more commonly available. That 10 second rule is important! As you're lowering the stick through the fuel the diesel forms a barrier film and it takes some time for the water to get to the paste. Once the water touches the paste the color change is virtually instant. The reason for destroying the markings on the empty can is the same reason that your pharmacist doesn't want you to reuse prescription bottles. When you're dealing with aircraft products especially Texaco doesn't want anyone putting the wrong stuff in the tank because of mislabeling (or for any other reason for that matter). FWIW: That product is serious overkill for your application but it will work just fine and it's nice that it comes in a more manageable package size. The red dye can be handy for finding leaks as well (it may even fluoresce under a black light). Colorfully yours, Alex

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