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TWL: Banning copper bottom paints...

T
tobyboat@worldnet.att.net
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 1:20 PM

Well there  is always  such options like ground up cayenne pepper.

Several list members have tried it  - apparently with sucess.

Arild ,
The Hot Stuff from Cayenne pepper was made synthetically  in a lab
about 2 yrs ago . It was predicted at that time that it would find it's way
into the bottom paint of boats - since it would be easy to manf , cheap ,
highly effective ..and non poluting . Apparently the Chemists have been
fooling with it for the past two years or so !

 I really don't give a ' rats behind ' what is in the bottom paint - as

long as it works to keep the little buggers and slime at bay  for a
resonable period of time . If it doesn't pollute - so much the better ..

 Since about 70 % of boats sit in their slips - most if not all of the

time - it is little wonder that the water and  mud under them become highly
poluted over time .

The use of  non glycol antifreeze has heped a lot - yet many refuse to

use it  - even those dependant on the health of the eco system for their
livelyhood -  as I overheard two Chesapeake Bay Crab Boat Captn's
alking  --
" F ***  the environment - I use the old regular stuff ! "

Unfortunately that attitude seems to appear on this forum occasionally
too  - in a slightly more high brow form - but it seems sadly - to be the
same attitude !!

Ken ( environmental wacko )
Mrs. Hudson

> > Well there is always such options like ground up cayenne pepper. > > Several list members have tried it - apparently with sucess. Arild , The Hot Stuff from Cayenne pepper was made synthetically in a lab about 2 yrs ago . It was predicted at that time that it would find it's way into the bottom paint of boats - since it would be easy to manf , cheap , highly effective ..and non poluting . Apparently the Chemists have been fooling with it for the past two years or so ! I really don't give a ' rats behind ' what is in the bottom paint - as long as it works to keep the little buggers and slime at bay for a resonable period of time . If it doesn't pollute - so much the better .. Since about 70 % of boats sit in their slips - most if not all of the time - it is little wonder that the water and mud under them become highly poluted over time . The use of non glycol antifreeze has heped a lot - yet many refuse to use it - even those dependant on the health of the eco system for their livelyhood - as I overheard two Chesapeake Bay Crab Boat Captn's alking -- " F *** the environment - I use the old regular stuff ! " Unfortunately that attitude seems to appear on this forum occasionally too - in a slightly more high brow form - but it seems sadly - to be the same attitude !! Ken ( environmental wacko ) Mrs. Hudson
K
klemmons@airmail.net
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 3:00 PM

Arild wrote: "The latest issue of Boating International  published an
article whernin it
was mentiond that some European countires are now going to ban copper in
anti fouling paint.

Sounds like the  eco- supporters have really gone  too far  now."


Just another way to get those darned filthy polluting boats off the
water. Wonder what they want us to use? I think the tin bottom paint
industry in 3rd. world countries will boom.

--


Keith
The mating call of a cash cow is MOOOOOOOOOOOLA"

Arild wrote: "The latest issue of Boating International published an article whernin it was mentiond that some European countires are now going to ban copper in anti fouling paint. Sounds like the eco- supporters have really gone too far now." ___________________________ Just another way to get those darned filthy polluting boats off the water. Wonder what they want us to use? I think the tin bottom paint industry in 3rd. world countries will boom. -- __________________ Keith The mating call of a cash cow is MOOOOOOOOOOOLA"
E
elnav@uniserve.com
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 5:08 PM

At 09:00 AM 03/04/2002 -0600, Keith wrote:

Just another way to get those darned filthy polluting boats off the
water. Wonder what they want us to use? I think the tin bottom paint
industry in 3rd. world countries will boom.

Well there  is always  such options like ground up cayenne pepper.

Several list members have tried it  - apparently with sucess.

Cheers

Arild

At 09:00 AM 03/04/2002 -0600, Keith wrote: >Just another way to get those darned filthy polluting boats off the >water. Wonder what they want us to use? I think the tin bottom paint >industry in 3rd. world countries will boom. Well there is always such options like ground up cayenne pepper. Several list members have tried it - apparently with sucess. Cheers Arild
L
love@3dnet.com
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 7:39 PM

I have read with interest this topic of paint and coatings . This past weekend
as I looked at my wood trim on my house, I began to entertain the idea of
painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint.  (just the wood
trim , not the whole house)

I had heard this mention in the past and thought I would affectionately throw
this to the barrel of monkeys    (only take offense if you want to :) )

Last week I used "easypoxy" to paint my fiberglass "dingy" dinghy and while
this is topcoat paint it turned out great .  (I justified the top coat because
of minimal time in the water) .

Now other than the cost of  over $20 a quart (u.s.)  any comments?

Lynn-Tampa

BTW...this is a cracker style house that sits on the bay , so it does get the
salt elements.

"M. Kenneth McQuage" wrote:

Well there  is always  such options like ground up cayenne pepper.

Several list members have tried it  - apparently with sucess.

Arild ,
The Hot Stuff from Cayenne pepper was made synthetically  in a lab
about 2 yrs ago . It was predicted at that time that it would find it's way
into the bottom paint of boats - since it would be easy to manf , cheap ,
highly effective ..and non poluting . Apparently the Chemists have been
fooling with it for the past two years or so !

  I really don't give a ' rats behind ' what is in the bottom paint - as

long as it works to keep the little buggers and slime at bay  for a
resonable period of time . If it doesn't pollute - so much the better ..

  Since about 70 % of boats sit in their slips - most if not all of the

time - it is little wonder that the water and  mud under them become highly
poluted over time .

 The use of  non glycol antifreeze has heped a lot - yet many refuse to

use it  - even those dependant on the health of the eco system for their
livelyhood -  as I overheard two Chesapeake Bay Crab Boat Captn's
alking  --
" F ***  the environment - I use the old regular stuff ! "

Unfortunately that attitude seems to appear on this forum occasionally

too  - in a slightly more high brow form - but it seems sadly - to be the
same attitude !!

Ken ( environmental wacko )
Mrs. Hudson

I have read with interest this topic of paint and coatings . This past weekend as I looked at my wood trim on my house, I began to entertain the idea of painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint. (just the wood trim , not the whole house) I had heard this mention in the past and thought I would affectionately throw this to the barrel of monkeys (only take offense if you want to :) ) Last week I used "easypoxy" to paint my fiberglass "dingy" dinghy and while this is topcoat paint it turned out great . (I justified the top coat because of minimal time in the water) . Now other than the cost of over $20 a quart (u.s.) any comments? Lynn-Tampa BTW...this is a cracker style house that sits on the bay , so it does get the salt elements. "M. Kenneth McQuage" wrote: > > > > Well there is always such options like ground up cayenne pepper. > > > > Several list members have tried it - apparently with sucess. > > Arild , > The Hot Stuff from Cayenne pepper was made synthetically in a lab > about 2 yrs ago . It was predicted at that time that it would find it's way > into the bottom paint of boats - since it would be easy to manf , cheap , > highly effective ..and non poluting . Apparently the Chemists have been > fooling with it for the past two years or so ! > > I really don't give a ' rats behind ' what is in the bottom paint - as > long as it works to keep the little buggers and slime at bay for a > resonable period of time . If it doesn't pollute - so much the better .. > > Since about 70 % of boats sit in their slips - most if not all of the > time - it is little wonder that the water and mud under them become highly > poluted over time . > > The use of non glycol antifreeze has heped a lot - yet many refuse to > use it - even those dependant on the health of the eco system for their > livelyhood - as I overheard two Chesapeake Bay Crab Boat Captn's > alking -- > " F *** the environment - I use the old regular stuff ! " > > Unfortunately that attitude seems to appear on this forum occasionally > too - in a slightly more high brow form - but it seems sadly - to be the > same attitude !! > > Ken ( environmental wacko ) > Mrs. Hudson
J
jgaquin@earthlink.net
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 8:04 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: love@3dnet.com

......I began to entertain the idea of
painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint.  (just the

wood

trim , not the whole house)

A while back (maybe 9-10 years) a guy I was flying with related to me that
he had painted his entire house in OK with aviation Imron.  Somewhat pricey,
but bulletproof, according to him.  The painting had occurred some eleven
years before, and the house still looked like new.  His only caution was
that you must be sure of your color selection, because you'll live with it
for a long, long time.

Regards,

John Gaquin
Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs
blocked and wrapped @
Bass River Marina, West Dennis,  MA

----- Original Message ----- From: <love@3dnet.com> > ......I began to entertain the idea of > painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint. (just the wood > trim , not the whole house) > A while back (maybe 9-10 years) a guy I was flying with related to me that he had painted his entire house in OK with aviation Imron. Somewhat pricey, but bulletproof, according to him. The painting had occurred some eleven years before, and the house still looked like new. His only caution was that you must be sure of your color selection, because you'll live with it for a long, long time. Regards, John Gaquin Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs blocked and wrapped @ Bass River Marina, West Dennis, MA
T
tobyboat@worldnet.att.net
Mon, Mar 4, 2002 8:58 PM

This past weekend

as I looked at my wood trim on my house, I began to entertain the idea of
painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint.  (just the

wood

trim , not the whole house)

One of the marine designers - I think it was Phil Bolger - used to paint

his personal boat with house paint - to show by example that the paints -
labled marine -  were not necessary - just more expensive !!

A chemist in a local yard continues to do the same - selecting a long

chained - and therefore slow drying -oil based house paint for his  60 ft
wood boat -- which  always looks great !!

Ya pays your $$ and takes ya pick !

 Ken
This past weekend > as I looked at my wood trim on my house, I began to entertain the idea of > painting the wood windows and rails with marine grade paint. (just the wood > trim , not the whole house) One of the marine designers - I think it was Phil Bolger - used to paint his personal boat with house paint - to show by example that the paints - labled marine - were not necessary - just more expensive !! A chemist in a local yard continues to do the same - selecting a long chained - and therefore slow drying -oil based house paint for his 60 ft wood boat -- which always looks great !! Ya pays your $$ and takes ya pick ! Ken