Re: T&T: Important - Attention All Foreign Flagged (More Gov. BS)
It just keeps getting better and better. Note last sentence, first paragraph.
"A Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) is an ID card issued by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). The USCG does not and will not issue TWICs. In 2007, the USCG published a regulation that requires all mariners holding an active license and/or Merchant Mariners Document to have a TWIC by 9/25/2008. If a mariner does not have a TWIC by that date, his/her USCG-issued credential(s) will be considered void on that date.
Also note that after 9/25/2008, the USCG will not accept an application from a mariner for any type of transaction (i.e., original license/MMD, renewal, upgrade, etc.) unless the mariner already holds a TWIC issued by the TSA.
The USCG has published information about TWICs in their Navigation and Vessel Inspection Circular (NVIC) No. 3-2007 dated July 2, 2007. The 63 page NVIC 3-2007 is available at this USCG web site:
Though NVIC 3-2007 is a rather long document, the "meat" of the TWIC issuance process is in the 12-page Enclosure 2 to NVIC 3-2007.
By September 2008, TSA will have about 125 TWIC enrollment centers located all over the country. Information about their locations and opening dates are at this TSA web site:
www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/twic/index.shtm "
Capt. Bill
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From: A H FOSTER
It just keeps getting better and better. Note last sentence,
first paragraph.
" If a mariner does not have a TWIC by that date,
his/her USCG-issued credential(s) will be considered void on that date".
REPLY
Presumably that includes all the 6 pack holders including those private
mariners who do not necessarily need it as a condition of employment. Wonder
how many will figure the added exepnse is justified?
Also wonder how thorough the back ground check will actually be, given the
huge number of people involved?
If it does actually go into as much depth as the regulations states; how
many people will be disqualified for something dating back a couple of
decades or more? Things like a minor youthful indescretion involving a brush
with the law.
Is there a statute of limitation invoked here?
If the background check takes too much time, how will the government handle
the back log?
I can see places like NY and LA falling behind due to sheer numbers. Denial
of access to the work place if the required pass is not issued constitutes a
lock out, doesn't it? Letting the workers through the gate anyway is now a
violation of Federal law.
How will that affect cruising boaters who planned to use marina facilities
inside some juristiction where a TWIC is required to even be on the
property?
Would some of the NY waterfront marinas be affected that technically lie
within the Harbor Authority lands?
How about retired armed forces personell?
Does the TWIC extend to military bases where a recreational marina for base
staff exist?
Does retired military status supecede or equal a TWIC?
The domino effect is mind boggling! <VBG>
Cheers
Arild
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It just keeps getting better and better. ............
"A Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) is an ID
card issued by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). The
USCG does not and will not issue TWICs. In 2007, the USCG published a
regulation that requires all mariners holding an active license and/or
Merchant Mariners Document to have a TWIC by 9/25/2008........
The TWIC of only of interest to those of us holding a USCG license (MMD, six
pack or higher), and really doesn't affect any recreational boaters.
I picked up my TWIC last month, and other than the large and unpleasant bite
in the wallet, the process was fairly streamlined.
Kevin
www.BoatMoves.com
what's incredible is how the USCG doesnt' even mention the TWIC during their
licensing process!
i went to their office in september, there was a big sign advising of a 14
or 15 week turn around time on licenses... no mention of TWIC. I finally
received my 100t license 2 weeks ago (4 1/2 months), nothing in the cover
letter indicating that i need to get a TWIC before september.
pascal
miami,fl
70 hatteras 53MY
live helm cam @ www.sandbarhopper.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Redden" kfredden@verizon.net
The TWIC of only of interest to those of us holding a USCG license (MMD,
six
pack or higher), and really doesn't affect any recreational boaters.
I picked up my TWIC last month, and other than the large and unpleasant
bite
in the wallet, the process was fairly streamlined.
SO if you have a 100t license like me and do not use it commercially
and do not get the mentioned card, what are the penalties?
If boarded I will take my framed license down anyway. So who knows the
difference?
Some one preciously mentioned that you could make your 100t license
"inactive". Does this remove the requirement to get the card?
The whole thing is really ridiculous unless you have to enter a secured area.
Is MY pilothouse defined as a secure area even though I am not a
commercial boat?
What potential privileges go with getting the card?
I do not really expect there to be answers for all these questions
other than "it depends"
--
Greg and Susan Han
Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16
my understanding is that you cannot "use" you license past september unless
you have the TWIC card and you will not be able to renew it in the future.
when you are running your own boat, or any boat in which a MM license is not
required, you dont' need to have a TWIC.
as to the logic of requiring a TWIC to run a 6pack boat... well.. that's
another issue :)
pascal
miami,fl
70 hatteras 53MY
live helm cam @ www.sandbarhopper.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Han" hangreg@gmail.com
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: TWIC (was: Important - Attention All Foreign Flagged)
SO if you have a 100t license like me and do not use it commercially
and do not get the mentioned card, what are the penalties?
If boarded I will take my framed license down anyway. So who knows the
difference?
Some one preciously mentioned that you could make your 100t license
"inactive". Does this remove the requirement to get the card?
The whole thing is really ridiculous unless you have to enter a secured
area.
Is MY pilothouse defined as a secure area even though I am not a
commercial boat?
What potential privileges go with getting the card?
I do not really expect there to be answers for all these questions
other than "it depends"
--
Greg and Susan Han
Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16
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my understanding is that you cannot "use" you license past september unless
you have the TWIC card and you will not be able to renew it in the future.
when you are running your own boat, or any boat in which a MM license is not
required, you dont' need to have a TWIC.
as to the logic of requiring a TWIC to run a 6pack boat... well.. that's
another issue :)
You may or may not recall that I warned the list about a year ago that
TWIC was coming. None of what is written here is confirmed, but this is
my understanding of how this is working out.
The rollout of TWIC processing centers has not gone as planned.
I don't think the one here in Portland Oregon is open yet, but it may be
about too.
By the time any of us renew our CG Licenses, after September, the new
license will be a Combination TWIC and License Document. I don't think
the CG has the final details on this worked out. Try not to be impatient.
After September?, your license is good until it expires, but if you
don't have the TWIC you won't be able to use your license in any formal
setting like running a passenger carrying vessel. It may be that you can
run the boat, but you won't be authorized to enter the secure area that
leads to the boat.
What is not clear is whether this will apply in an informal setting like
a bareboat charter or where the boat is your own, or like out of a
sportfishing landing and it's your boat.
You can assume that since I can't clarify any of this beyond what I have
written here, that things are in a pretty sorry state of flux.
Mike
Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
This is the document that explains in almost terrifying detail what US
Customs policy is regarding, Reporting, Entry and staying out of trouble.
Notice to Masters of Vessels
Publication # 0000-0581
At this URL:
Mike
Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)