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mikey@efni.com
Sun, Apr 22, 2001 9:03 PM

Does the emergency bottle to fix a flat tire works?

I never tried it but heard from many boaters that is a good fix -
beware though you need many cans to cover the whole inside of a
rubber dinghy.

Also many of the tire emergency inflators use propane or some other
explosive mixture as propellant. A number of tire installers have been
injured by exploding tires when the owner forgot to tell them the
emergency fix can had been used.  So even if it works, you'll have to
be careful to properly purge the dinghy.

Mike Eedy
Mikey@efni.com

> >Does the emergency bottle to fix a flat tire works? > > I never tried it but heard from many boaters that is a good fix - > beware though you need many cans to cover the whole inside of a > rubber dinghy. Also many of the tire emergency inflators use propane or some other explosive mixture as propellant. A number of tire installers have been injured by exploding tires when the owner forgot to tell them the emergency fix can had been used. So even if it works, you'll have to be careful to properly purge the dinghy. Mike Eedy Mikey@efni.com
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brydon@icarus.ssd.loral.com
Wed, Apr 25, 2001 5:38 AM

At 13:09 -0700 4/20/01, Garrett Lambert wrote:

The most convenient location for me to install fuel line vacuum gauges is
either just before or just after the primary filters. Does that work?

Cheers, Garrett

Garrett,

You want to put the vacuum gauge AFTER the filter in question, so
that as the filter becomes clogged, your fuel pump pulls a vacuum,
indicated by the gauge. Some things to consider:

  1. The engine (cam) driven pump that pulls the fuel thru the primary
    filters and pushes it thru the secondary filters.  It supplies about
    7 psi to the injector pump.  It is a diaphragm pump and as a result
    creates a pulsation on the vacuum gauge.  To remedy this the gauge
    should be a liquid filled gauge to damp out the pulsation in the
    mechanism, or the gauge will beat it self to death.  Ordinary gauges
    (about $7 ea from Grainger) will work for a while, but at some point
    it's going to fail, and may start letting air leak in to the fuel
    system.  I found some perfect gauges at:  http://www.gaugestore.com
    Look for the P/N 9691957 Wika Vacuum Gauge 30-0 "Hg $13.07/ea.

  2. Have a small in-line ball valve to seal off the gauge were it to
    spring a leak and start allowing air to be pulled in to the line
    (about $5 ea from Grainger).

  3. If you're concerned about the secondary filter(s), you may also
    want to add a damped 0-15 psi pressure gauge after the secondary
    filter.

Hope this helps,

-Louis
SEASTAR -  '69 American Marine Defever Alaskan 46-018
Redwood City, California, USA, Terra, Sol, Milkyway

At 13:09 -0700 4/20/01, Garrett Lambert wrote: >The most convenient location for me to install fuel line vacuum gauges is >either just before or just after the primary filters. Does that work? > >Cheers, Garrett Garrett, You want to put the vacuum gauge AFTER the filter in question, so that as the filter becomes clogged, your fuel pump pulls a vacuum, indicated by the gauge. Some things to consider: 1) The engine (cam) driven pump that pulls the fuel thru the primary filters and pushes it thru the secondary filters. It supplies about 7 psi to the injector pump. It is a diaphragm pump and as a result creates a pulsation on the vacuum gauge. To remedy this the gauge should be a liquid filled gauge to damp out the pulsation in the mechanism, or the gauge will beat it self to death. Ordinary gauges (about $7 ea from Grainger) will work for a while, but at some point it's going to fail, and may start letting air leak in to the fuel system. I found some perfect gauges at: http://www.gaugestore.com Look for the P/N 9691957 Wika Vacuum Gauge 30-0 "Hg $13.07/ea. 2) Have a small in-line ball valve to seal off the gauge were it to spring a leak and start allowing air to be pulled in to the line (about $5 ea from Grainger). 3) If you're concerned about the secondary filter(s), you may also want to add a damped 0-15 psi pressure gauge after the secondary filter. Hope this helps, -Louis SEASTAR - '69 American Marine Defever Alaskan 46-018 Redwood City, California, USA, Terra, Sol, Milkyway
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yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Wed, Apr 25, 2001 10:08 AM

A To remedy this the gauge

should be a liquid filled gauge to damp out the pulsation in the
mechanism, or the gauge will beat it self to death.  Ordinary gauges
(about $7 ea from Grainger) will work for a while, but at some point
it's going to

fail,
---==========================

Louis-----------Two of those $7 guages have been working for me for about
15 years now and no pulsations on the original Perkins or the present Cummins.
.
Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email  yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

A To remedy this the gauge >should be a liquid filled gauge to damp out the pulsation in the >mechanism, or the gauge will beat it self to death. Ordinary gauges >(about $7 ea from Grainger) will work for a while, but at some point >it's going to fail,=========================================================== Louis-----------Two of those $7 guages have been working for me for about 15 years now and no pulsations on the original Perkins or the present Cummins. . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain