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TWL: Inernational navigation standards (was direction lights)

FM
Faure, Marin
Tue, Apr 13, 2004 11:08 PM

Attempts to establish an international uniform system of buoyage have

never met with success.

Thanks for the information.  You would think there would be little
difficulty arriving at a world standard for navigation markers, given
that so many vessels travel between the "A" and "B" sectors of the
world.  It's not like half the people would have to change their ships
from right hand to left hand drive or something. The only cost, although
I suppose it would be considerable, would be to change the markers
themselves and the relevant charts.  This would be an economic
undertaking, but I don't see that it would be a political one.  The
whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green,
middle-yellow, bottom-red). The standards for air navigation are the
same the world over-- pilots in Malaysia use the same kind of instrument
approach equipment and charts as pilots in the US and Europe.  So I
find it hard to imagine any valid reasons a maritime nation could put
forward for not going to a uniform system of navigation markers, outside
of the cost.  National pride I suppose.....


C. Marin Faure
GB36-403 "La Perouse"
Bellingham, Washington

>Attempts to establish an international uniform system of buoyage have never met with success. Thanks for the information. You would think there would be little difficulty arriving at a world standard for navigation markers, given that so many vessels travel between the "A" and "B" sectors of the world. It's not like half the people would have to change their ships from right hand to left hand drive or something. The only cost, although I suppose it would be considerable, would be to change the markers themselves and the relevant charts. This would be an economic undertaking, but I don't see that it would be a political one. The whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green, middle-yellow, bottom-red). The standards for air navigation are the same the world over-- pilots in Malaysia use the same kind of instrument approach equipment and charts as pilots in the US and Europe. So I find it hard to imagine any valid reasons a maritime nation could put forward for not going to a uniform system of navigation markers, outside of the cost. National pride I suppose..... ______________________________ C. Marin Faure GB36-403 "La Perouse" Bellingham, Washington
JH
James H. E. Maugham
Tue, Apr 13, 2004 11:46 PM

C. Marin Faure wrote:

The whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green,
middle-yellow, bottom-red).

I know you folks on the left coast don't think much of us on the right, but
to add a bit more fuel to the fire our traffic lights follow a much more
civilized pattern in being the reverse of the standard you stipulated!

So I find it hard to imagine any valid reasons a maritime
nation could put forward for not going to a uniform system of
navigation markers, outside of the cost.  National pride I
suppose.....

Yep. All we need are a few odd billions to admit they've been "wrong" all
this time and volunteer to mend their ways.

Regards,

James

C. Marin Faure wrote: > The whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green, > middle-yellow, bottom-red). I know you folks on the left coast don't think much of us on the right, but to add a bit more fuel to the fire our traffic lights follow a much more civilized pattern in being the reverse of the standard you stipulated! > So I find it hard to imagine any valid reasons a maritime > nation could put forward for not going to a uniform system of > navigation markers, outside of the cost. National pride I > suppose..... Yep. All we need are a few odd billions to admit they've been "wrong" all this time and volunteer to mend their ways. Regards, James
PG
Paul Goyette
Wed, Apr 14, 2004 12:19 AM

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Faure, Marin wrote:

<snip>

The whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green,
middle-yellow, bottom-red).

<snip>

What part of the world are you from?  At least wherever I've lived
(US East and West coasts), the Red light has been on top and green on
bottom.  (Except for a few streets in downtown Trenton, NJ, where the
fixtures were mounted horizontally;  I think green was on the right.)

:)

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Faure, Marin wrote: <snip> > The whole world uses the same standard for stoplights (top-green, > middle-yellow, bottom-red). <snip> What part of the world are you from? At least wherever I've lived (US East and West coasts), the Red light has been on top and green on bottom. (Except for a few streets in downtown Trenton, NJ, where the fixtures were mounted horizontally; I think green was on the right.) :)