Integrating LookOut / TNEF / winmail.dat
Hey Magnus,
you said the TNEF addons all have license problems and use non-OSS
libraries.
The most popular is LookOut
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/lookout/
The page says it's MPL 1.1. I looked at the content, it's pure JS and
tnef.js has no special license header, so I assume it's MPL 1.1 like the
rest. The ext page description says "The TNEF decoding engine was
inspired (with permission) by the tnef.sf.net project", so that appears
to be a re-write by the LookOut author.
Do you still think that there are license problems? If so, which ones?
Ben
On 06/12/2017 23:04, Ben Bucksch wrote:
Hey Magnus,
you said the TNEF addons all have license problems and use non-OSS
libraries.
The most popular is LookOut
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/lookout/
Note that this one is abandoned, it's successor LookOut+ is abandoned as
well (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lookout-1/),
the real thing is here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lookout-fix-version/
That's already fit for TB 58 with my help.
Please don't look at the stats, they lie. There might be add-ons
installed for ages, which cause ADI pings but don't work and hence no
one uses them.
Jörg.
Why it's useful to integrate this:
Once in a while, Microsoft Outlook (the desktop application) decides to
send out these "winmail.dat" files. They contain the actual email and/or
attachment. Without decoding it, you can't read what the sender wanted
to tell you. It maybe a meeting invitation (and then you don't know when
the meeting will be), and you have to ask back. It's highly
embarrassing, esp. in business negotiations. It has happened to me.
I am not sure about this particular addon, whether it works well. I'm
just saying that the functionality would be useful for our users.
Even as I despise the idea of winmail.dat. But given that it's one of
our most popular addons, that shows there's a need.
Ben Bucksch wrote on 06.12.17 23:04:
Hey Magnus,
you said the TNEF addons all have license problems and use non-OSS
libraries.
The most popular is LookOut
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/lookout/
The page says it's MPL 1.1. I looked at the content, it's pure JS and
tnef.js has no special license header, so I assume it's MPL 1.1 like
the rest. The ext page description says "The TNEF decoding engine was
inspired (with permission) by the tnef.sf.net project", so that
appears to be a re-write by the LookOut author.
Do you still think that there are license problems? If so, which ones?
Ben
On 06/12/2017 23:46, Ben Bucksch wrote:
Even as I despise the idea of winmail.dat. But given that it's one of
our most popular addons, that shows there's a need.
Sure, that's why we have
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77811 from 2001.
Lobby the add-on author of the "fix version" to integrate it.
Jörg.
Saw this come through as a request a couple of times in the comments for
this blog post:
Has anyone reached out to Oleksandr, the add-on author about
integration? I'm happy to do it if it hasn't been done. Also, does
anyone know his Email address? I can't find it on his blog.
Ryan
On 12/6/17 3:53 PM, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
On 06/12/2017 23:46, Ben Bucksch wrote:
Even as I despise the idea of winmail.dat. But given that it's one of
our most popular addons, that shows there's a need.
Sure, that's why we have
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77811 from 2001.
Lobby the add-on author of the "fix version" to integrate it.
Jörg.
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Whoops, forgot to add the link, the blog post referenced is here:
https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/12/new-thunderbird-releases-and-new-thunderbird-staff/
On 12/27/17 12:35 PM, Ryan Sipes wrote:
Saw this come through as a request a couple of times in the comments
for this blog post:
Has anyone reached out to Oleksandr, the add-on author about
integration? I'm happy to do it if it hasn't been done. Also, does
anyone know his Email address? I can't find it on his blog.
Ryan
On 12/6/17 3:53 PM, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
On 06/12/2017 23:46, Ben Bucksch wrote:
Even as I despise the idea of winmail.dat. But given that it's one
of our most popular addons, that shows there's a need.
Sure, that's why we have
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77811 from 2001.
Lobby the add-on author of the "fix version" to integrate it.
Jörg.
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So the last bit in this saga, I got in touch with Alexander, the
developer of the add-on. He says he's going to continue to update it and
maintain it as we move forward. So I guess that is that.
On 12/27/17 12:37 PM, Ryan Sipes wrote:
Whoops, forgot to add the link, the blog post referenced is here:
https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/12/new-thunderbird-releases-and-new-thunderbird-staff/
On 12/27/17 12:35 PM, Ryan Sipes wrote:
Saw this come through as a request a couple of times in the comments
for this blog post:
Has anyone reached out to Oleksandr, the add-on author about
integration? I'm happy to do it if it hasn't been done. Also, does
anyone know his Email address? I can't find it on his blog.
Ryan
On 12/6/17 3:53 PM, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
On 06/12/2017 23:46, Ben Bucksch wrote:
Even as I despise the idea of winmail.dat. But given that it's one
of our most popular addons, that shows there's a need.
Sure, that's why we have
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77811 from 2001.
Lobby the add-on author of the "fix version" to integrate it.
Jörg.
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