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truelove39@aol.com
Sun, Oct 23, 2005 1:03 PM

I meant to convey the smell of the exhaust, rather than the noise. In uncrowded anchorages, I have had idiots anchor on top of me (right over my anchor - their stern 50' from my bow) and run their genset all night long.

Power boats thus equipped and desiring to run gensets continuously should anchor downwind of those who do not do so. That's just common courtesy. Have all the power you want, Cappy. Just anchor behind me, thank you!

And yes, I do have a sailboat, and a troller as well.

Regards,

John
"Seahorse"

Capt. Sterling writes:

Guess you missed the part about the hondas being quieter,and I bet your on  a
sailboat. Try rum and cokes, we all need power, cant all suck air!

Truelove39 writes:

I don't  think I'd like to be anchored downwind of a boat running a
gasoline-powered genset.  Diesel is bad enough. Unfortunately,  an
increasing number of
people are anchoring upwind of the  fleet  and running their genset while at
anchor. Just doesn't  compliment the steak  and salad, say nothing of the
wine.

I meant to convey the smell of the exhaust, rather than the noise. In uncrowded anchorages, I have had idiots anchor on top of me (right over my anchor - their stern 50' from my bow) and run their genset all night long. Power boats thus equipped and desiring to run gensets continuously should anchor downwind of those who do not do so. That's just common courtesy. Have all the power you want, Cappy. Just anchor behind me, thank you! And yes, I do have a sailboat, and a troller as well. Regards, John "Seahorse" Capt. Sterling writes: Guess you missed the part about the hondas being quieter,and I bet your on a sailboat. Try rum and cokes, we all need power, cant all suck air! >Truelove39 writes: I don't think I'd like to be anchored downwind of a boat running a gasoline-powered genset. Diesel is bad enough. Unfortunately, an increasing number of people are anchoring upwind of the fleet and running their genset while at anchor. Just doesn't compliment the steak and salad, say nothing of the wine.
DH
Dan Hall
Sun, Oct 23, 2005 5:06 PM

--- truelove39@aol.com wrote:
-snip- I have had idiots anchor on top of me (right
over my anchor, their stern 50' from my bow) and run
their genset all night long. -snip-

Yup, and I've had blow boat maroons cut across my bow
in a crowded channel just because they can. I usually
avoid these ignorant clods and just say a prayer for
'em. Makes me feel surpirior....(sic)

What's needed here clearly, is less people. I wonder
if the bird flue will be propulsion selective?  Maybe
it'll go after blow boaters and leave us nasty oil
burners alone. Go bird flue!

On a lighter note; My boat is all electric, or as John
Kerry would say, I've got me an all electric boat.
This of course, will make me very popular in the
circles Mr Truelove travels in. But I don't care for
it much either. I would just as soon not run the thing
all that often if it can be avoided.

New Adventure came equipped with an honest to goodness
Tappan double oven range. Wha? I don't know either,
but it takes up a good deal of valuable real estate in
the galley and its going to get the float test. She
also has five zones of Cruizair heat pumps. That means
that not only do I have to run the genset during meal
preparation but also all night long in chilly
anchorages. I'm not liking that idea much at all.

Here's the question. Opinions please.

Do I convert the galley to a Dickinson stove, knowing
that someday, God willing, we'll spend extended time
in the tropics?

Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for
convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel
heater in the salon and another below decks for heat
in the owners stateroom and forepeak?

Do I do something else?

Thanks gang

Dan Hall
M/V New Adventure
Hatteras 48 LRC
Sausalito

--- truelove39@aol.com wrote: -snip- I have had idiots anchor on top of me (right over my anchor, their stern 50' from my bow) and run their genset all night long. -snip- Yup, and I've had blow boat maroons cut across my bow in a crowded channel just because they can. I usually avoid these ignorant clods and just say a prayer for 'em. Makes me feel surpirior....(sic) What's needed here clearly, is less people. I wonder if the bird flue will be propulsion selective? Maybe it'll go after blow boaters and leave us nasty oil burners alone. Go bird flue! On a lighter note; My boat is all electric, or as John Kerry would say, I've got me an all electric boat. This of course, will make me very popular in the circles Mr Truelove travels in. But I don't care for it much either. I would just as soon not run the thing all that often if it can be avoided. New Adventure came equipped with an honest to goodness Tappan double oven range. Wha? I don't know either, but it takes up a good deal of valuable real estate in the galley and its going to get the float test. She also has five zones of Cruizair heat pumps. That means that not only do I have to run the genset during meal preparation but also all night long in chilly anchorages. I'm not liking that idea much at all. Here's the question. Opinions please. Do I convert the galley to a Dickinson stove, knowing that someday, God willing, we'll spend extended time in the tropics? Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel heater in the salon and another below decks for heat in the owners stateroom and forepeak? Do I do something else? Thanks gang Dan Hall M/V New Adventure Hatteras 48 LRC Sausalito
JA
James Alexander
Mon, Oct 24, 2005 2:55 AM

Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for
convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel
heater in the salon and another below decks for heat
in the owners stateroom and forepeak?

As the owner of a 48LRC I have been reading your posts with interest.  IMHO
you have purchased one of the best designed and built cruising boats of the
size in existance, but then I am slightly predjudiced.

Frankly I feel that the original factory layout of the galley is one of the
best features of the boat.  Our LRC doesn't have a double oven but we do
have a full size four burner electric range top and a full size oven along
with a built in microwave.  I guess it depends upon how people use their
boats, but these features were important to us as full time live aboards.
My wife can cook a regular meal all of the time.  I looked at several boats
that had been "updated" with ceramic cook tops and convection microwaves and
that just killed them as far as we were concerned.  I mean this is our home,
would you buy a house that had a two burner cook top and a convection
microwave in the kitchen, I don't think so and therefore could not
understand why people ruin these great boats by destroying the galley.  I
understand and actually know some folks who own boats in this size range
that never cook, but then they are not cruisers and I don't understand as
marina "hoppers" why they didn't buy a big Sea Ray to begin with.

I guess my opinon is, Leave the Galley alone.

Jim Alexander
Serendipity

> Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for > convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel > heater in the salon and another below decks for heat > in the owners stateroom and forepeak? As the owner of a 48LRC I have been reading your posts with interest. IMHO you have purchased one of the best designed and built cruising boats of the size in existance, but then I am slightly predjudiced. Frankly I feel that the original factory layout of the galley is one of the best features of the boat. Our LRC doesn't have a double oven but we do have a full size four burner electric range top and a full size oven along with a built in microwave. I guess it depends upon how people use their boats, but these features were important to us as full time live aboards. My wife can cook a regular meal all of the time. I looked at several boats that had been "updated" with ceramic cook tops and convection microwaves and that just killed them as far as we were concerned. I mean this is our home, would you buy a house that had a two burner cook top and a convection microwave in the kitchen, I don't think so and therefore could not understand why people ruin these great boats by destroying the galley. I understand and actually know some folks who own boats in this size range that never cook, but then they are not cruisers and I don't understand as marina "hoppers" why they didn't buy a big Sea Ray to begin with. I guess my opinon is, Leave the Galley alone. Jim Alexander Serendipity
RC
R C Smith Jr
Mon, Oct 24, 2005 2:57 PM

On 10/23/05 1:06 PM, "Dan Hall" skyboltone@yahoo.com wrote:

Do I convert the galley to a Dickinson stove, knowing
that someday, God willing, we'll spend extended time
in the tropics?

Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for
convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel
heater in the salon and another below decks for heat
in the owners stateroom and forepeak?

Do I do something else?

Dan, I love having regular electric household-style appliances. I love only
having one power source: diesel fuel. Cheap and simple, in that order.

Handle your constant electric needs with an inverter (that big
ice-in-the-door reefer, TV, stereo, lights). Inverter handles coffeemaker,
toaster, hot plate, Geo Foreman grill, hairdryers, etc. for intermittent
use. I have 3KW with 490 A/hrs of batter at 24v. Usually gives 12 hrs
service before recharge.

As it turns out, the amount we run the genny for cooking is needed to
recharge anyway. I installed a new 18KW NorPro this summer. Good soundshield
and gas/water separation exhaust. Hard to tell its running at 50 ft.

Re: heat at anchor. I plead ignorance. The MARY KATHRYN goes south for the
winter.

Finally, since your boat is new to you, I suggest you just use it for
awhile. Your initial impressions are not going to match your ultimate
decisions...I guarantee it!

Bob


Robert Calhoun Smith Jr
M/V MARY KATHRYN
Hatteras 58 LRC
Annapolis

On 10/23/05 1:06 PM, "Dan Hall" <skyboltone@yahoo.com> wrote: > Do I convert the galley to a Dickinson stove, knowing > that someday, God willing, we'll spend extended time > in the tropics? > > Do I install a newer, smaller ceramic top range for > convenience and then install one Dickinson diesel > heater in the salon and another below decks for heat > in the owners stateroom and forepeak? > > Do I do something else? Dan, I love having regular electric household-style appliances. I love only having one power source: diesel fuel. Cheap and simple, in that order. Handle your constant electric needs with an inverter (that big ice-in-the-door reefer, TV, stereo, lights). Inverter handles coffeemaker, toaster, hot plate, Geo Foreman grill, hairdryers, etc. for intermittent use. I have 3KW with 490 A/hrs of batter at 24v. Usually gives 12 hrs service before recharge. As it turns out, the amount we run the genny for cooking is needed to recharge anyway. I installed a new 18KW NorPro this summer. Good soundshield and gas/water separation exhaust. Hard to tell its running at 50 ft. Re: heat at anchor. I plead ignorance. The MARY KATHRYN goes south for the winter. Finally, since your boat is new to you, I suggest you just use it for awhile. Your initial impressions are not going to match your ultimate decisions...I guarantee it! Bob ________________ Robert Calhoun Smith Jr M/V MARY KATHRYN Hatteras 58 LRC Annapolis