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Question for Bob Wilkins et al synthetic oil user

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Bobflower
Tue, Nov 27, 2012 4:09 AM

Kevin, your message was well done. That is why I said that "Synthetic" oil is not for everyone. Your remarks about "higher selling price", I think are mostly valid. To answer your questions "YES" I do oil samples on my boat as we do with all the trucks. We have signed agreements with Mobil (on the truck side) that with their Synthetic Delvac oil and oil samples at each oil change, they will pickup any engine repair costs, "due to oil issues". Working with the MFG of the engine and Mobil, we can significantly extend oil changes on the trucks and reefer engines.

For me, it is more of comfort knowing that I have the very best protection with the very best oil that I can put into my marine engine and generator. Cruising a single engine trawler (no back up engine) for 48-60 hours of continuous running on long distant trips, "it just feels good" to have the Synthetic oil taking care of my engine.

I think the other point, under the category of  the "why" of Synthetic oil is how clean it stays, hour after hour. When I pull out the dip stick every morning to check the oil, and every morning, it looks clean and clear, well ..... just seems that the engine will be happier with clean oil. Or, if the engine is not happier, then I am !

Cost certainly is more then mineral oil. But, as boats we spend a lot of money on items in our quest of this crazy hobby. A couple nights at a nice marina at $2.50 per foot, or a great dinner with wine and drinks for 4 at a nice dock side restaurant, all cost more then the added cost of Synthetic over Mineral Oil. So again, "Synthetic" is not for every one. Each of us has to make the choice of spending the extra money. It is almost like an insurance policy, you spend money every year, and may NEVER get a return on your investment. Yet, when you need it, you really need it.

Bob Wilkins

Kevin, your message was well done. That is why I said that "Synthetic" oil is not for everyone. Your remarks about "higher selling price", I think are mostly valid. To answer your questions "YES" I do oil samples on my boat as we do with all the trucks. We have signed agreements with Mobil (on the truck side) that with their Synthetic Delvac oil and oil samples at each oil change, they will pickup any engine repair costs, "due to oil issues". Working with the MFG of the engine and Mobil, we can significantly extend oil changes on the trucks and reefer engines. For me, it is more of comfort knowing that I have the very best protection with the very best oil that I can put into my marine engine and generator. Cruising a single engine trawler (no back up engine) for 48-60 hours of continuous running on long distant trips, "it just feels good" to have the Synthetic oil taking care of my engine. I think the other point, under the category of the "why" of Synthetic oil is how clean it stays, hour after hour. When I pull out the dip stick every morning to check the oil, and every morning, it looks clean and clear, well ..... just seems that the engine will be happier with clean oil. Or, if the engine is not happier, then I am ! Cost certainly is more then mineral oil. But, as boats we spend a lot of money on items in our quest of this crazy hobby. A couple nights at a nice marina at $2.50 per foot, or a great dinner with wine and drinks for 4 at a nice dock side restaurant, all cost more then the added cost of Synthetic over Mineral Oil. So again, "Synthetic" is not for every one. Each of us has to make the choice of spending the extra money. It is almost like an insurance policy, you spend money every year, and may NEVER get a return on your investment. Yet, when you need it, you really need it. Bob Wilkins
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Tom M Theobald
Tue, Nov 27, 2012 8:57 AM

My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that?

Tom M Theobald
Further, GB42, #124
Ft Myers Beach

On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Bobflower bobflower@aol.com wrote:

Kevin, your message was well done. That is why I said that "Synthetic" oil is not for everyone.

My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that? Tom M Theobald Further, GB42, #124 Ft Myers Beach On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Bobflower <bobflower@aol.com> wrote: > > Kevin, your message was well done. That is why I said that "Synthetic" oil is not for everyone.
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Andy Woods
Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:13 AM

My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that?

I believe Bob Smith, the Guru of the Lehman engine, said the tolerances in the older Lehmans were not tight enough for synthetic oil and might result in additional leaks.

If you have Lehmans then I would contact American Diesel for advice.

Andy Woods
Grand Folly
1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
Blades, DE.
grandfolly@hotmail.com

> My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that? I believe Bob Smith, the Guru of the Lehman engine, said the tolerances in the older Lehmans were not tight enough for synthetic oil and might result in additional leaks. If you have Lehmans then I would contact American Diesel for advice. Andy Woods Grand Folly 1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic Blades, DE. grandfolly@hotmail.com
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Alec McLocklin (amclockl)
Mon, Dec 3, 2012 9:48 PM

Wouldn't the issue of tolerances be handled by going to a higher weight synthetic?

Alec
1973 GB Alaskan
LI NY

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My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that?

I believe Bob Smith, the Guru of the Lehman engine, said the tolerances in the older Lehmans were not tight enough for synthetic oil and might result in additional leaks.

If you have Lehmans then I would contact American Diesel for advice.

Andy Woods
Grand Folly
1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
Blades, DE.
grandfolly@hotmail.com


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Wouldn't the issue of tolerances be handled by going to a higher weight synthetic? Alec 1973 GB Alaskan LI NY -----Original Message----- From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Andy Woods Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:13 PM To: Trawler World Subject: Re: T&T: Question for Bob Wilkins et al synthetic oil user > My concern is converting to synthetic on forty year old engines albeit with less than 2000 hours. Is there a problem with that? I believe Bob Smith, the Guru of the Lehman engine, said the tolerances in the older Lehmans were not tight enough for synthetic oil and might result in additional leaks. If you have Lehmans then I would contact American Diesel for advice. Andy Woods Grand Folly 1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic Blades, DE. grandfolly@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.