To tag onto nancys email, you can send those emails daily. 3 mins every day for the next few weeks could be very powerful. Karen 425.890.5706 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 1:31 PM, discussion-request@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote: > > Send Discussion mailing list submissions to > discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.limestoneranchhoa.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > discussion-request@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > discussion-owner@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Discussion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Annexation Bills (Sectork) > 2. Re: Annexation Bills (Voorkamp, Adrian) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:24:29 -0500 > From: Sectork <sectork@aol.com> > To: discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills > Message-ID: <15aa5148244-2948-1395e@webprd-m56.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I believe we've already seen the slow down in selling traffic in our neighborhood!!! The increase in TAXATION will price out many of the prospective buyers... considering as it is....we are in the mid 400s to over 650s... that translates to about $200/month or more to that monthly mortgage!!! which would price out many buyers!!! I think it's part of the HUGE reason why the buyer traffic is much slower in our neighborhood now. I am sure some of the realtors in our neighborhood could provide some data on this too. Which is another point of contention for the legislation that annexation hurts homeowners and homebuyers! > > > Sunny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Beebe via Discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> > To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> > Cc: Nancy Beebe <nancybeebe@gmail.com> > Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:04 am > Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills > > I followed the link provided and it took me less than 3 minutes to complete > the correspondence to both the House and Senate. Regardless of whether it > is a group letter or individual letters, it is very important that everyone > do this. I talked with a realtor friend and she said that once we get > annexed, we will have increased difficulty in selling our houses. Our > address will no longer be Boerne. It will become San Antonio, like the > folks east of us (Scenic Oaks on down). Although our school district > boundaries will not be affected, those searching online for homes will > likely exclude us because they THINK we are not in Boerne ISD. Aside from > that, response times for emergency services will be disastrous. I don't > know how many of you have called 911 in SA, but you have to go through a > phone tree to get to anyone. It is ludicrous. We are on the far reaches > of their already overburdened system. I don't think anyone should expect a > rapid response in times of emergency. These are my motivating factors for > taking action. Hopefully, others will take three minutes to prevent this > from happening. > > Nancy Beebe > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Sectork via Discussion < > discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote: > >> Why not draft a single letter and get everybody to sign it... wouldn't >> that also work? Government works for us and a key responsibility that >> should be stated is that they are charged to protect and do NO HARM to its >> citizens. This annexation would CAUSE harm to many of us! Some of us are >> have numerous obligations which would CHANGE drastically with even just an >> increase of $2500 extra tax... that's just the direct cost. Don't forget >> about INDIRECT Costs of coming up to "specifications" of laws and new >> legislation imposed in the future. For example, anyone who has swimming >> pools may need to upgrade or install certain safety enclosures...etc.. >> >> >> Again, wouldn't a single letter signed by all the homeowners make a bigger >> statement? Maybe get Highland HOA in on it too... or have a stand outside >> or by Flagstop for all to see and sign! >> >> >> Hell, if we do this we should be able to get TONS of signatures on a >> single weekend. >> >> >> Sunny >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CHRISTINA CARNEY via Discussion <discussion@lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com> >> To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com >>> >> Cc: CHRISTINA CARNEY <christina.carney@sbcglobal.net> >> Sent: Sun, Mar 5, 2017 6:49 pm >> Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills >> >> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px >> #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; >> background-color:white !important; } When I go to the hyperlink in item #2 >> listed below, it is giving an error message. Could you please confirm the >> correct website address?Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhoneOn Sunday, March 5, >> 2017, 2:39 PM, Greg Anderson via Discussion <discussion@lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:Yesterday I went to the anti-annexation >> meeting and after hearing from House Representation Lyle Larson and Senator >> Donna Campbell, I am very hopeful and optimistic that this legislation has >> a real chance of passage in this legislative session. As a homeowner as >> well as a Board Member, I felt an obligation to send this to all my friends >> and neighbors. I think it is incumbent that every one of us in Limestone >> Ranch get involved. If we get annexed into the city, we all stand to pay >> an additional tax of $2000 per year or more to the City of San Antonio. >> From what I heard yesterday, this is what I now know:1. There are 28 >> states in the USA that require the voters to approve annexation of their >> property before it can be annexed. It is truly amazing that Texas is NOT >> one of those states, but rather allows forced annexation. Now the City of >> San Antonio can incorporate our area without us having any voice or vote in >> the matter. The proposed legislation would require a majority of the >> homeowners to vote for and approve any annexation plans before they could >> be enacted. HB299 is the Lyle Larson bill and there is a companion bill HB >> 424. Senator Campbell has proposed S 715. 2. If we become a part of San >> Antonio they will be unable to provide essential police and fire services >> short term and perhaps even long term. We will lose the police protection >> of the Bexar County Sheriff's Department and our volunteer emergency >> responders--both EMS and fire. In the years I have lived in Limestone >> Ranch I have seen these agencies increase in abilities and response >> time.3. The only motivation the City of San Antonio has to annex our >> subdivision is to generate additional quantities of tax revenue. Since we >> are a gated community, we have to pay the same amount of taxes but the City >> doesn't even have to repave our streets. This will remain the obligation >> of the HOA and the homeowners.4. Strong forces such as the Urban League as >> well as wealthy and influential cities are trying very hard to defeat the >> legislation. They are bringing enormous pressure to bear on the members of >> both Houses.I hope you are asking by now.....what can I do to help. You >> can do the following:1. Go to the following website and study the issues. >> http://www.homeownersagainstannexation.com. There are excellent >> resources on this website for your use. An FAQ section can be found >> athttp://www.homeownersagainstannexation.com/p/get-facts_3.html.2. Write >> a letter to each of the committees who are acting on the legislation. >> There is a link that will allow you to send a form letter to each of the >> committee members on both the House and Senate committees. http://www. >> homeownersagainstannexation.com/p/get-in-touch_24.html#/. You can also >> write your own personal letter if you'd prefer. 3. Call each of the >> Committee members and let them know you enthusiastically support the >> legislation and want their support as well.4. If you have the time, join >> the contingents going to Austin to be heard in person.5. Contact Governor >> Greg Abbott's office and let him know you support passage of the >> legislation and ask him to sign it into law at the appropriate time. >> Abbott's veto would kill the bill. As many of you are aware, legislation in >> Texas only takes place every 2 years and moves at a fast pace. This >> legislation will most likely succeed or fail prior to mid summer. The >> Committees are supposed to consider the legislation in the next 2-3 weeks. >> If it successfully moves out of Committee, it will go before the full >> membership of the Texas House and Senate for a vote. (Two years ago it >> passed in the Senate but never went to the House for a vote. Time ran >> out.) It is essential that you not delay in taking action and doing your >> part. In less than 2 hours time you can fully study the issues and make >> your voice heard on this legislation. If enough of us are heard, this >> legislation has an excellent chance of passage. Thank you for helping to >> make this legislation a reality in Texas.Greg AndersonLimestone Ranch HOA >> Board Member_______________________________________________Discussion >> mailing listDiscussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.comTo manage your >> subscription to this list, or to unsubscribe, please visit:http://lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com_______________________________________ >> ________Discussion mailing listDiscussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.comTo >> manage your subscription to this list, or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> http://lists.limestoneranchhoa.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Discussion mailing list >> Discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com >> >> To manage your subscription to this list, or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> http://lists.limestoneranchhoa.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_lists. >> limestoneranchhoa.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > To manage your subscription to this list, or to unsubscribe, please visit: > http://lists.limestoneranchhoa.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion_lists.limestoneranchhoa.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:30:48 +0000 > From: "Voorkamp, Adrian" <AVoorkamp@tyco.com> > To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion > <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> > Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills > Message-ID: <81E6BDB3-3AC0-412A-8A8A-BDB4410D4EB0@tyco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Would love to see the days on market of comps in Scenic Oaks, As well as a few West of 10, north of Tarpon developments. > > Adrian Voorkamp > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:25 PM, Sectork via Discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com<mailto:discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com>> wrote: > > I believe we've already seen the slow down in selling traffic in our neighborhood!!! The increase in TAXATION will price out many of the prospective buyers... considering as it is....we are in the mid 400s to over 650s... that translates to about $200/month or more to that monthly mortgage!!! which would price out many buyers!!! I think it's part of the HUGE reason why the buyer traffic is much slower in our neighborhood now. I am sure some of the realtors in our neighborhood could provide some data on this too. Which is another point of contention for the legislation that annexation hurts homeowners and homebuyers! > > > Sunny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Beebe via Discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com<mailto:discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com>> > To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com<mailto:discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com>> > Cc: Nancy Beebe <nancybeebe@gmail.com<mailto:nancybeebe@gmail.com>> > Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 11:04 am > Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills > > I followed the link provided and it took me less than 3 minutes to complete > the correspondence to both the House and Senate. Regardless of whether it > is a group letter or individual letters, it is very important that everyone > do this. I talked with a realtor friend and she said that once we get > annexed, we will have increased difficulty in selling our houses. Our > address will no longer be Boerne. It will become San Antonio, like the > folks east of us (Scenic Oaks on down). Although our school district > boundaries will not be affected, those searching online for homes will > likely exclude us because they THINK we are not in Boerne ISD. Aside from > that, response times for emergency services will be disastrous. I don't > know how many of you have called 911 in SA, but you have to go through a > phone tree to get to anyone. It is ludicrous. We are on the far reaches > of their already overburdened system. I don't think anyone should expect a > rapid response in times of emergency. These are my motivating factors for > taking action. Hopefully, others will take three minutes to prevent this > from happening. > > Nancy Beebe > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Sectork via Discussion < > discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com<mailto:discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com>> wrote: > > Why not draft a single letter and get everybody to sign it... wouldn't > that also work? Government works for us and a key responsibility that > should be stated is that they are charged to protect and do NO HARM to its > citizens. This annexation would CAUSE harm to many of us! Some of us are > have numerous obligations which would CHANGE drastically with even just an > increase of $2500 extra tax... that's just the direct cost. Don't forget > about INDIRECT Costs of coming up to "specifications" of laws and new > legislation imposed in the future. For example, anyone who has swimming > pools may need to upgrade or install certain safety enclosures...etc.. > > > Again, wouldn't a single letter signed by all the homeowners make a bigger > statement? Maybe get Highland HOA in on it too... or have a stand outside > or by Flagstop for all to see and sign! > > > Hell, if we do this we should be able to get TONS of signatures on a > single weekend. > > > Sunny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CHRISTINA CARNEY via Discussion <discussion@lists. > limestoneranchhoa.com<http://limestoneranchhoa.com>> > To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion <discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com<mailto:discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> > > Cc: CHRISTINA CARNEY <christina.carney@sbcglobal.net<mailto:christina.carney@sbcglobal.net>> > Sent: Sun, Mar 5, 2017 6:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Annexation Bills > > blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px > #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; > background-color:white !important; } When I go to the hyperlink in item #2 > listed below, it is giving an error message. Could you please confirm the > correct website address?Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhoneOn Sunday, March 5, > 2017, 2:39 PM, Greg Anderson via Discussion <discussion@lists. > limestoneranchhoa.com<http://limestoneranchhoa.com>> wrote:Yesterday I went to the anti-annexation > meeting and after hearing from House Representation Lyle Larson and Senator > Donna Campbell, I am very hopeful and optimistic that this legislation has > a real chance of passage in this legislative session. As a homeowner as > well as a Board Member, I felt an obligation to send this to all my friends > and neighbors. I think it is incumbent that every one of us in Limestone > Ranch get involved. If we get annexed into the city, we all stand to pay > an additional tax of $2000 per year or more to the City of San Antonio. >> From what I heard yesterday, this is what I now know:1. There are 28 > states in the USA that require the voters to approve annexation of their > property before it can be annexed. It is truly amazing that Texas is NOT > one of those states, but rather allows forced annexation. Now the City of > San Antonio can incorporate our area without us having any voice or vote in > the matter. The proposed legislation would require a majority of the > homeowners to vote for and approve any annexation plans before they could > be enacted. HB299 is the Lyle Larson bill and there is a companion bill HB > 424. Senator Campbell has proposed S 715. 2. If we become a part of San > Antonio they will be unable to provide essential police and fire services > short term and perhaps even long term. We will lose the police protection > of the Bexar County Sheriff's Department and our volunteer emergency > responders--both EMS and fire. In the years I have lived in Limestone > Ranch I have seen these agencies increase in abilities and response > time.3. The only motivation the City of San Antonio has to annex our > subdivision is to generate additional quantities of tax revenue. Since we > are a gated community, we have to pay the same amount of taxes but the City > doesn't even have to repave our streets. This will remain the obligation > of the HOA and the homeowners.4. Strong forces such as the Urban League as > well as wealthy and influential cities are trying very hard to defeat the > legislation. They are bringing enormous pressure to bear on the members of > both Houses.I hope you are asking by now.....what can I do to help. You > can do the following:1. Go to the following website and study the issues. > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.homeownersagainstannexation.com&d=DwICAg&c=0YGvTs3tT-VMy8_v51yLDw&r=e9KQS9FVzqg6yLWR95mYhwYzgNB3YTk0yr8WxmaLBXw&m=IVOBDjfK_yzFB4-prmsYjAP7M8dokn0r7OAlexyGpsE&s=XHGf9j9f_9KU8ZYmWa0kk-iQNg8qZrXVsOxZ6j76Cqk&e= . There are excellent > resources on this website for your use. An FAQ section can be found > athttp://www.homeownersagainstannexation.com/p/get-facts_3.html.2. Write > a letter to each of the committees who are acting on the legislation. > There is a link that will allow you to send a form letter to each of the > committee members on both the House and Senate committees. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www&d=DwICAg&c=0YGvTs3tT-VMy8_v51yLDw&r=e9KQS9FVzqg6yLWR95mYhwYzgNB3YTk0yr8WxmaLBXw&m=IVOBDjfK_yzFB4-prmsYjAP7M8dokn0r7OAlexyGpsE&s=PgjuMqm4RFxMb72bLzA9gq4ugucTdqtJtNX8gGhyvIU&e= . > homeownersagainstannexation.com/p/get-in-touch_24.html#/<http://homeownersagainstannexation.com/p/get-in-touch_24.html#/>. You can also > write your own personal letter if you'd prefer. 3. Call each of the > Committee members and let them know you enthusiastically support the > legislation and want their support as well.4. If you have the time, join > the contingents going to Austin to be heard in person.5. Contact Governor > Greg Abbott's office and let him know you support passage of the > legislation and ask him to sign it into law at the appropriate time. > Abbott's veto would kill the bill. As many of you are aware, legislation in > Texas only takes place every 2 years and moves at a fast pace. This > legislation will most likely succeed or fail prior to mid summer. The > Committees are supposed to consider the legislation in the next 2-3 weeks. > If it successfully moves out of Committee, it will go before the full > membership of the Texas House and Senate for a vote. (Two years ago it > passed in the Senate but never went to the House for a vote. Time ran > out.) It is essential that you not delay in taking action and doing your > part. In less than 2 hours time you can fully study the issues and make > your voice heard on this legislation. If enough of us are heard, this > legislation has an excellent chance of passage. 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