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Peter Sheppard
Mon, Jul 23, 2007 1:22 AM

Scott,
Good luck with your new life and fulfilling your dreams.
My life currently is not too dissimilar to yours, but on a different
timeframe. As a complete power boat neophyte we took possession of SKIE,
our N55 two months ago in Brisbane, Australia and immediately headed
North 540 nm to the beautiful Whitsunday Islands where we will say until
September before heading slowly South to meet the summer as it heats up.
We will be in Sydney for Xmas and NY, and I will be able to get my first
real close up of the start of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht race which I
have watched only on TV over the past 40 years. We then go further South
to Tasmania, then to Melbourne our hailing port for the first time. This
will have put about 600 hours on the main.
What have I leaned so far is staggering by the diversity of subjects.
Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown period become a holiday
vehicle for the kids on tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in
inclement weather to meet a family member who had booked a non
refundable air fare to a destination where all accommodation was booked
out. This meant my wife who has never been to sea on anything under a
liner, got her first taste of 30 to 40 kts on the beam. She breezed
through it with flying colours, and no sea sickness (a ginger & honey
concoction which I used to jokingly call her placebo) seemed to help.
The last part of the trip was however tranquil, and we spent much time
up on the flybridge.
Secondly go to ground (not literally) berthed or anchored at the first
opportunity, and just get to know the boat and read all your manuals. I
did this quietly by myself whilst my wife went back to Melbourne to
catch up with her 92 yr old father and the stack of grandkids, and it
has been a great opportunity. I also did a solo passage which was the
best confidence builder I could have had. You will always find someone
to take your lines when berthing. Just gotta luv the bow & stern
thrusters.
We must say we have been fairly untouched with problems so far, and
these were only minor, like too small a circuit fuse installed for our
4000 Maxwell windlass, and a water strainer that came loose and emptied
600 gal into the laundry cupboard that didn't flow to the bilge. The
distance from the cause to where the water finished up was due to my
poor trimming. I also flattened the house bank one night by not having
firm genset rules, and allowing two large plasma's, one with a DVD
going, and the hot water heater going 24/7. The new rules are all
appliances come on from 6 - 9 pm rigidly every night when the genset is
fired up, and battery levels must be checked before going to bed.
My next target is to wait for the right conditions to fire up the wing
for some solid sessions. I am considering running it loaded tied up
(securely of course) as I want my get home to be running like a clock.
One other bit of good news is that I have dropped my weight from 96 kg's
to 86 kgs. This has been to regular walking, the physical requirements
of running a boat (particularly cleaning it) and the hidden isometrics
that go on all the time.
May I suggest to everyone that you may tap into "Storm Surf"- which is a
free weather forecaster that has been proven 100% spot on, and I'm
grateful to a US resident who had sailed his Mason across the Pacific,
and was tied up to us in Brisbane, for passing it on.
One of the most interesting experiences was on the way up, off Mackay at
night to come across over 100 anchored ships directly in our path, which
maxed out our AIS at 70. I tried to keep them to sea, but tired of this
and ducked through them. I wonder what they thought of an underway AIS
target threading through them at close quarters. This is the result of
an insatiable demand for Australian coal exceeding the unprepared
infrastructure. This is why the AUD$ has gone from 77c (when I made my
payments) to now 87c to the greenback. Can't win them all I guess.
Good luck to all tenderfoots, as when the penny starts to drop, the
scenery and lifestyle become much nicer.
Regards,
Peter Sheppard SKIE N55#38

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  1. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Scott Bulger)
  2. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
    (Peter Pisciotta)
  3. Reflections on moving aboard (Scott Bulger)
  4. Re: Reflections on moving aboard (Patrick Gerety)
  5. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Patrick Gerety)
  6. Re: Reflections on moving aboard (John Marshall)
  7. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
    (Peter Pisciotta)
  8. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Patrick Gerety)

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:17:26 -0700
From: "Scott Bulger" scottebulger@gmail.com
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David asked:  Subject: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising
Guide?

Does anyone have recommendations?

David,

We purchased Pat Rains "Cruising Ports:  The Central America Route".  I
don't have a frame of reference, nor can I validate the data, but having
met
Pat and her husband several times during prep for FUBAR I can say they
are
very experienced with this area.  I believe they ran a delivery business
and
transited the area for years.

Marian and I plan to cruise south from La Paz in January and transit the
canal in the Jan.  When will you be there?

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA


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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
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John and Pat Rains, both USCG masters (John with a
very high tonnage), were probably premier yacht
delivery resource on the Panama Canal route. I'm only
guessing, but I believe they have well over 100
passages through the canal, including commercial
vessels.

A couple years ago, they set aside their delivery
business in favor of their publishing efforts - they
have written several books, the most popular of which
was their Mexico Cruising Guide, which seems to keep
them quite busy and happy these days as they have also
set aside all other books including "Cruising Ports:
Florida to California" and "MexWX," both of which are
out of print, and therefore out of date. There simply
was no parallel for their experience - especially
since the founder of Charlie's Charts died several
years ago (his publishing legacy continues through a
family member). In my opinion, the information
contained within the Charlie's Charts I have read
suffers from the same problem many cruising guides do:
it's easier to pull info from public sources like a
Coast Pilot than actually scrutinize the locations
personally (the Coast Pilot, for example, is not
copyrighted and can therefore be quoted verbatim
without credit).

Any other suggestions?

Peter

--- Scott Bulger scottebulger@gmail.com wrote:

David asked:  Subject: [PUP] West coast of Central
America Cruising Guide?

Does anyone have recommendations?

David,

We purchased Pat Rains "Cruising Ports:  The Central
America Route".  I
don't have a frame of reference, nor can I validate
the data, but having met
Pat and her husband several times during prep for
FUBAR I can say they are
very experienced with this area.  I believe they ran
a delivery business and
transited the area for years.

Marian and I plan to cruise south from La Paz in
January and transit the
canal in the Jan.  When will you be there?

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:45:54 -0700
From: "Scott Bulger" scottebulger@gmail.com
Subject: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard
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Tonight is the second night we will spend on Alanui, our Nordhavn 40.
Its
now or home, our transport, our life for at least 2 years, perhaps more.
I'm flooded with thoughts and emotions as we say goodbye to so much we
have
known for so long.  For 25 years we had the same phone number.  For 24
years
we had two daughters growing up in our care.  For the last 9 years we
lived
in a wonderful home where my wife created a masterpiece of a landscape.
But, a year ago we purchased Alanui and decided to take a precious few
years
to ourselves.  The rational?  Numerous people who said "if you have the
chance, GO NOW!".  Well, we took your advice, are have gone and there
are no
regrets.  Getting here seemed to take but a moment.  It seems like just
yesterday we met Jeff Merrill in Dana Point and saw Alanui for the first
time.  It seems like yesterday I walked my two daughters down the isle
within 3 months of each other, in fact it was just weeks ago our
youngest
was married.  So, here we go.

We did a lot of things right getting here:  We have the fortunate
situation
to have funds to support our retirement, but I will need to return to
work
upon return, primarily to secure medical benefits.  We had a lot of
equity
in our house that we traded for the boat.  A decision that I feel is
timely
given the house no longer met our needs and the markets are in such
turmoil
I won't miss being in the housing game.  We chose a quality product with
a
loyal owner community that has adopted us with open arms and provided
endless support in answering questions and learning the systems on the
boat.
We have met people like Capt. Mike Maurice who is not only a great
consult,
but has become a great friend.  We have listened to this list, which
planted
a concept in my mind that prevented me from grounding my boat (if you
don't
know where you are or are unsure, STOP the Boat).    Made a plan and we
stuck to it.

We did some things wrong getting here:  I shared my thoughts and
emotions
openly and honestly on this list, resulting in a very small group of
people
thinking I am a liar with some vendetta against a specific brand of
boats.
I failed to sell my Camano to two different buyers because I felt I was
being bent over and over and over, when I probably should have just
swallowed hard and taken the offer, but who knows?  We focused so much
on
selling the house that we neglected the boat.  We arrived here yesterday
and
were both overwhelmed with the task at hand.  We did make progress
today, so
at least there is now a place to sit.  But, we have a long, long way to
go
to get the boat ship shape.  When we leave we won't have everything
done,
but we will get it done as we travel south.

In summary, getting here has been a challenge, but manageable.  We
didn't
compress the time as some people do, but one thing stands out in my mind
as
a critical decision.  When we started this adventure I had visions of
crossing the worlds oceans in my mind.  After 4 months the goal became
to
travel to the South Pacific.  It wasn't until we decided on a near
coastal
route of the East and West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas that I
felt the dream was attainable.  Once that decision became clear, almost
all
the anxiety of the journey vanished.  I know I can be successful with
the
itinerary we are taking on.  Once that is complete, perhaps the other
goals
may be attainable.  My hat goes off to people like Eric and Christy
Grabb
who did shove off and go to the South Pacific.  I have tremendous
respect
and admiration for them.  I couldn't do it and have no regrets.  So,
while
the content of this has not had much to do with the voyage, it certainly
captures my sentiment as we prepare for ours.  Thanks!

Scott and Marian Bulger, Living aboard Alanui, currently moored at
Lockhaven
Marina, Seattle WA!

Departing August 30 from Neah Bay WA for the FUBAR rally and beyond.


Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Gerety alohaboat@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard
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----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Bulger scottebulger@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:45:54 AM
Subject: [PUP] Reflections on moving
aboard

When we started this adventure I had visions of
crossing the worlds

oceans in my mind.  After 4 months the goal became to

travel to the South

Pacific.  It wasn't until we decided on a near coastal

route of the East and

West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas that I

felt the dream was

attainable.  Once that decision became clear, almost all

the anxiety of the

journey vanished.

I wager that by the time you get to Mexico your possible
itinerary will expand once again.  Once you experience a different
culture as
a true prodigal aboard your own boat, communing with colleague voyagers
both
sail and power, and you have a few open ocean miles under your belt, you
will
understand that anything is possible given proper planning and
preparation
that you are doing.

The adventure truly begins!  Exciting!  Congratulations!
Patrick
Willard 40PH
ALOHA
La Paz, MX


Message: 5
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Gerety alohaboat@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
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----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:59:25 AM
Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of
Central America Cruising Guide?

John and Pat Rains, both USCG masters (John

with a

very high tonnage), were probably premier yacht
delivery resource on

the Panama Canal route.

A couple years ago, they set aside their delivery
business in favor of their publishing efforts - they
have written several

books, the most popular of which

was their Mexico Cruising Guide, which seems

to keep

them quite busy and happy these days as they have also
set aside all

other books including "Cruising Ports:

Florida to California" and "MexWX,"

both of which are

out of print, and therefore out of date.

I believe  that
both of these books are being revised at this time.  Go to the Rain's
website
and ask them about revisions.  Out of print copies are available on both
Ebay
and Amazon from time to time.  I purchased MexWX (out of print version)
about
a year ago, and I think it is still a good reference.

since the founder of

Charlie's Charts died several

years ago (his publishing legacy continues

through a

family member).

I met Margo Wood, "Charlie" Wood's wife, at the
Seattle Boat Show last January.  She continues publishing Charlie's
Charts.
She is continually publishing updates which she gathers through loyal
cruisers
who send her revisions.

I feel that the more information I have (even when
somewhat out of date), the better informed I can be.  Given the amount
that
most of us have invested in our boats, the extra cost of these
publications is
minimal.  Besides, it makes it fun looking through all these resources
as we
plan our next jump into the unknown.

Patrick
Willard 40PH
ALOHA
La Paz, MX


Message: 6
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:32:04 -0700
From: John Marshall johnamar1101@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard
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Scott,
It's great reading of your account of preparing for your 'new
life'.
I find so many parallels to what my wife and I went through as we
moved aboard, although we didn't cut all the connections to land
living as you have. But we moved aboard at the end of March, then
brought the boat up to Seattle area from Dana Point and have been
living aboard and cruising the NW since. We don't plan on sleeping in
our house again until October/November or so.

One thing that's for sure... cruising plans don't survive the

first
significant change in location. Every time you change areas, horizons
and opportunities expand. A casual discussion with a fellow cruiser
turns into a burning desire to cruise to new locations. That happens
about once a month in our case!

Our plans in March had been FUBAR and then down through canal to

Caribbean. But since we had a few months to kill, we decided to take
a little 2500 mile 'side-trip' (a Nordhavn style side-trip) and see
the NW. Once we got here, it was clear that we needed a season inside
Vancouver Island and a season in Alaska before we went south (you
have to really earn your way north along the Pacific coast in the
Spring, so I'm not ready to spend that 'capital' just yet by going
south).

Now we are looking at the Caribbean in the winter of 2009.

Maybe.

I believe you have to have plans of a general sort... but even

more
than that, you need a willingness to change them. Learning to be a
vagabond after being fixed in one location takes a little practice...
by the time you're done with FUBAR I predict you'll be masters at
that. There will be time later (hopefully much later) to settle back
on land.

Until then, enjoy... your adventure sounds like an exciting one

(especially that trip south until you finally pass Point
Conception!). May Neptune and the weather gods smile on you.

John Marshall
N5520 - Serendipity
Anacortes, WA

On Jul 21, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Scott Bulger wrote:

Tonight is the second night we will spend on Alanui, our Nordhavn
40.  Its
now or home, our transport, our life for at least 2 years, perhaps
more.
I'm flooded with thoughts and emotions as we say goodbye to so much
we have
known for so long.  For 25 years we had the same phone number.  For
24 years
we had two daughters growing up in our care.  For the last 9 years
we lived
in a wonderful home where my wife created a masterpiece of a
landscape.
But, a year ago we purchased Alanui and decided to take a precious
few years
to ourselves.  The rational?  Numerous people who said "if you have
the
chance, GO NOW!".  Well, we took your advice, are have gone and
there are no
regrets.  Getting here seemed to take but a moment.  It seems like
just
yesterday we met Jeff Merrill in Dana Point and saw Alanui for the
first
time.  It seems like yesterday I walked my two daughters down the isle
within 3 months of each other, in fact it was just weeks ago our
youngest
was married.  So, here we go.

We did a lot of things right getting here:  We have the fortunate
situation
to have funds to support our retirement, but I will need to return
to work
upon return, primarily to secure medical benefits.  We had a lot of
equity
in our house that we traded for the boat.  A decision that I feel
is timely
given the house no longer met our needs and the markets are in such
turmoil
I won't miss being in the housing game.  We chose a quality product
with a
loyal owner community that has adopted us with open arms and provided
endless support in answering questions and learning the systems on
the boat.
We have met people like Capt. Mike Maurice who is not only a great
consult,
but has become a great friend.  We have listened to this list,
which planted
a concept in my mind that prevented me from grounding my boat (if
you don't
know where you are or are unsure, STOP the Boat).    Made a plan
and we
stuck to it.

We did some things wrong getting here:  I shared my thoughts and
emotions
openly and honestly on this list, resulting in a very small group
of people
thinking I am a liar with some vendetta against a specific brand of
boats.
I failed to sell my Camano to two different buyers because I felt I
was
being bent over and over and over, when I probably should have just
swallowed hard and taken the offer, but who knows?  We focused so
much on
selling the house that we neglected the boat.  We arrived here
yesterday and
were both overwhelmed with the task at hand.  We did make progress
today, so
at least there is now a place to sit.  But, we have a long, long
way to go
to get the boat ship shape.  When we leave we won't have everything
done,
but we will get it done as we travel south.

In summary, getting here has been a challenge, but manageable.  We
didn't
compress the time as some people do, but one thing stands out in my
mind as
a critical decision.  When we started this adventure I had visions of
crossing the worlds oceans in my mind.  After 4 months the goal
became to
travel to the South Pacific.  It wasn't until we decided on a near
coastal
route of the East and West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas
that I
felt the dream was attainable.  Once that decision became clear,
almost all
the anxiety of the journey vanished.  I know I can be successful
with the
itinerary we are taking on.  Once that is complete, perhaps the
other goals
may be attainable.  My hat goes off to people like Eric and Christy
Grabb
who did shove off and go to the South Pacific.  I have tremendous
respect
and admiration for them.  I couldn't do it and have no regrets.
So, while
the content of this has not had much to do with the voyage, it
certainly
captures my sentiment as we prepare for ours.  Thanks!

Scott and Marian Bulger, Living aboard Alanui, currently moored at
Lockhaven
Marina, Seattle WA!

Departing August 30 from Neah Bay WA for the FUBAR rally and beyond.


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Pisciotta peter@seaskills.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
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"Cruising Ports:
Florida to California" and "MexWX,"
both of which are
out of print, and therefore out of date.

PATRICK:
I believe that both of these books are being
revised at this time.

I certainly hope so, but the last I talked to John
Rains a couple years ago as he was getting out of the
delivery business, I had the impression he wasn't
doing a lot of travel by boat, so I wouldn't be
surprised to learn there will be no update to that
cruising guide.

PATRICK:
I met Margo Wood, "Charlie" Wood's wife, at the
Seattle Boat Show last January. She is
continually publishing updates through cruisers
who send her revisions.

This was the "gold standard" of cruising guides for
years. And I haven't read one in a number of years so
I won't speak specifically about Charlie's Charts. But
in general, cruising guides are interesting but not as
detailed and well-researched as they should be - a
careful eye will find many, many examples of language
pulled directly from the non-copyrighted Coast Pilots.
For example, until Don and Reanne Douglass wrote the
quitissential guide on the US Pacific Coast ($60!!!),
the only guide from San Francisco south was written by
the same person who wrote the only guide for the
Channel Islands off Santa Barbara. In some places the
info was good, in other places, it was clear he had
never visited the place. A park ranger at San Miguel
Island once joked "If I had a dime for every anchorage
that was identified as 'suicidal...'" A good cruising
guide requires the author to make purpose-specific
visits, not just recollections of a cruising voyage.

But I agree with you Patrick - there's very little
more satisfying than sitting down with any
book/article and dreaming-the-dream. It's what I once
heard referred to as the "Huck Finn Syndrome," the
equivilent of floating down the Mississippi with a
straw hat pushed over your brow to shield the sun.

Peter


Message: 8
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Gerety alohaboat@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide?
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Okay, here is the latest on Rains' Central America Cruising Guide.  The
latest
edition was just released in April, 2007.  The revised MexWX should be
available in the next couple of months.

I advise that these Guides should
only be used as an additional source of information.  Often times, local
knowledge is your best source of up-to-date infromation.

Visit:
centralamericanboating.com for the latest and ordering information.

Patrick
Willard 40PH
ALOHA
La Paz, MX



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Scott, Good luck with your new life and fulfilling your dreams. My life currently is not too dissimilar to yours, but on a different timeframe. As a complete power boat neophyte we took possession of SKIE, our N55 two months ago in Brisbane, Australia and immediately headed North 540 nm to the beautiful Whitsunday Islands where we will say until September before heading slowly South to meet the summer as it heats up. We will be in Sydney for Xmas and NY, and I will be able to get my first real close up of the start of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht race which I have watched only on TV over the past 40 years. We then go further South to Tasmania, then to Melbourne our hailing port for the first time. This will have put about 600 hours on the main. What have I leaned so far is staggering by the diversity of subjects. Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown period become a holiday vehicle for the kids on tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in inclement weather to meet a family member who had booked a non refundable air fare to a destination where all accommodation was booked out. This meant my wife who has never been to sea on anything under a liner, got her first taste of 30 to 40 kts on the beam. She breezed through it with flying colours, and no sea sickness (a ginger & honey concoction which I used to jokingly call her placebo) seemed to help. The last part of the trip was however tranquil, and we spent much time up on the flybridge. Secondly go to ground (not literally) berthed or anchored at the first opportunity, and just get to know the boat and read all your manuals. I did this quietly by myself whilst my wife went back to Melbourne to catch up with her 92 yr old father and the stack of grandkids, and it has been a great opportunity. I also did a solo passage which was the best confidence builder I could have had. You will always find someone to take your lines when berthing. Just gotta luv the bow & stern thrusters. We must say we have been fairly untouched with problems so far, and these were only minor, like too small a circuit fuse installed for our 4000 Maxwell windlass, and a water strainer that came loose and emptied 600 gal into the laundry cupboard that didn't flow to the bilge. The distance from the cause to where the water finished up was due to my poor trimming. I also flattened the house bank one night by not having firm genset rules, and allowing two large plasma's, one with a DVD going, and the hot water heater going 24/7. The new rules are all appliances come on from 6 - 9 pm rigidly every night when the genset is fired up, and battery levels must be checked before going to bed. My next target is to wait for the right conditions to fire up the wing for some solid sessions. I am considering running it loaded tied up (securely of course) as I want my get home to be running like a clock. One other bit of good news is that I have dropped my weight from 96 kg's to 86 kgs. This has been to regular walking, the physical requirements of running a boat (particularly cleaning it) and the hidden isometrics that go on all the time. May I suggest to everyone that you may tap into "Storm Surf"- which is a free weather forecaster that has been proven 100% spot on, and I'm grateful to a US resident who had sailed his Mason across the Pacific, and was tied up to us in Brisbane, for passing it on. One of the most interesting experiences was on the way up, off Mackay at night to come across over 100 anchored ships directly in our path, which maxed out our AIS at 70. I tried to keep them to sea, but tired of this and ducked through them. I wonder what they thought of an underway AIS target threading through them at close quarters. This is the result of an insatiable demand for Australian coal exceeding the unprepared infrastructure. This is why the AUD$ has gone from 77c (when I made my payments) to now 87c to the greenback. Can't win them all I guess. Good luck to all tenderfoots, as when the penny starts to drop, the scenery and lifestyle become much nicer. Regards, Peter Sheppard SKIE N55#38 -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces+peter=petersheppard.com.au@lists.samur ai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces+peter=petersheppard.com.au@lis ts.samurai.com] On Behalf Of passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:00 PM To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 32, Issue 15 Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com You can reach the person managing the list at passagemaking-under-power-owner@lists.samurai.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Scott Bulger) 2. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Peter Pisciotta) 3. Reflections on moving aboard (Scott Bulger) 4. Re: Reflections on moving aboard (Patrick Gerety) 5. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Patrick Gerety) 6. Re: Reflections on moving aboard (John Marshall) 7. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Peter Pisciotta) 8. Re: West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? (Patrick Gerety) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:17:26 -0700 From: "Scott Bulger" <scottebulger@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <000601c7cb91$1c105f80$54311e80$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" David asked: Subject: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? Does anyone have recommendations? David, We purchased Pat Rains "Cruising Ports: The Central America Route". I don't have a frame of reference, nor can I validate the data, but having met Pat and her husband several times during prep for FUBAR I can say they are very experienced with this area. I believe they ran a delivery business and transited the area for years. Marian and I plan to cruise south from La Paz in January and transit the canal in the Jan. When will you be there? Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Pisciotta <peter@seaskills.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <779799.27784.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 John and Pat Rains, both USCG masters (John with a very high tonnage), were probably premier yacht delivery resource on the Panama Canal route. I'm only guessing, but I believe they have well over 100 passages through the canal, including commercial vessels. A couple years ago, they set aside their delivery business in favor of their publishing efforts - they have written several books, the most popular of which was their Mexico Cruising Guide, which seems to keep them quite busy and happy these days as they have also set aside all other books including "Cruising Ports: Florida to California" and "MexWX," both of which are out of print, and therefore out of date. There simply was no parallel for their experience - especially since the founder of Charlie's Charts died several years ago (his publishing legacy continues through a family member). In my opinion, the information contained within the Charlie's Charts I have read suffers from the same problem many cruising guides do: it's easier to pull info from public sources like a Coast Pilot than actually scrutinize the locations personally (the Coast Pilot, for example, is not copyrighted and can therefore be quoted verbatim without credit). Any other suggestions? Peter --- Scott Bulger <scottebulger@gmail.com> wrote: > David asked: Subject: [PUP] West coast of Central > America Cruising Guide? > > Does anyone have recommendations? > > David, > > We purchased Pat Rains "Cruising Ports: The Central > America Route". I > don't have a frame of reference, nor can I validate > the data, but having met > Pat and her husband several times during prep for > FUBAR I can say they are > very experienced with this area. I believe they ran > a delivery business and > transited the area for years. > > Marian and I plan to cruise south from La Paz in > January and transit the > canal in the Jan. When will you be there? > > Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com > with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body > of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of > Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler > World Productions. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:45:54 -0700 From: "Scott Bulger" <scottebulger@gmail.com> Subject: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <001901c7cb9d$77d091d0$6771b570$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tonight is the second night we will spend on Alanui, our Nordhavn 40. Its now or home, our transport, our life for at least 2 years, perhaps more. I'm flooded with thoughts and emotions as we say goodbye to so much we have known for so long. For 25 years we had the same phone number. For 24 years we had two daughters growing up in our care. For the last 9 years we lived in a wonderful home where my wife created a masterpiece of a landscape. But, a year ago we purchased Alanui and decided to take a precious few years to ourselves. The rational? Numerous people who said "if you have the chance, GO NOW!". Well, we took your advice, are have gone and there are no regrets. Getting here seemed to take but a moment. It seems like just yesterday we met Jeff Merrill in Dana Point and saw Alanui for the first time. It seems like yesterday I walked my two daughters down the isle within 3 months of each other, in fact it was just weeks ago our youngest was married. So, here we go. We did a lot of things right getting here: We have the fortunate situation to have funds to support our retirement, but I will need to return to work upon return, primarily to secure medical benefits. We had a lot of equity in our house that we traded for the boat. A decision that I feel is timely given the house no longer met our needs and the markets are in such turmoil I won't miss being in the housing game. We chose a quality product with a loyal owner community that has adopted us with open arms and provided endless support in answering questions and learning the systems on the boat. We have met people like Capt. Mike Maurice who is not only a great consult, but has become a great friend. We have listened to this list, which planted a concept in my mind that prevented me from grounding my boat (if you don't know where you are or are unsure, STOP the Boat). Made a plan and we stuck to it. We did some things wrong getting here: I shared my thoughts and emotions openly and honestly on this list, resulting in a very small group of people thinking I am a liar with some vendetta against a specific brand of boats. I failed to sell my Camano to two different buyers because I felt I was being bent over and over and over, when I probably should have just swallowed hard and taken the offer, but who knows? We focused so much on selling the house that we neglected the boat. We arrived here yesterday and were both overwhelmed with the task at hand. We did make progress today, so at least there is now a place to sit. But, we have a long, long way to go to get the boat ship shape. When we leave we won't have everything done, but we will get it done as we travel south. In summary, getting here has been a challenge, but manageable. We didn't compress the time as some people do, but one thing stands out in my mind as a critical decision. When we started this adventure I had visions of crossing the worlds oceans in my mind. After 4 months the goal became to travel to the South Pacific. It wasn't until we decided on a near coastal route of the East and West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas that I felt the dream was attainable. Once that decision became clear, almost all the anxiety of the journey vanished. I know I can be successful with the itinerary we are taking on. Once that is complete, perhaps the other goals may be attainable. My hat goes off to people like Eric and Christy Grabb who did shove off and go to the South Pacific. I have tremendous respect and admiration for them. I couldn't do it and have no regrets. So, while the content of this has not had much to do with the voyage, it certainly captures my sentiment as we prepare for ours. Thanks! Scott and Marian Bulger, Living aboard Alanui, currently moored at Lockhaven Marina, Seattle WA! Departing August 30 from Neah Bay WA for the FUBAR rally and beyond. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Gerety <alohaboat@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <811148.39057.qm@web35913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ----- Original Message ---- From: Scott Bulger <scottebulger@gmail.com> To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:45:54 AM Subject: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard >When we started this adventure I had visions of >crossing the worlds oceans in my mind. After 4 months the goal became to >travel to the South Pacific. It wasn't until we decided on a near coastal >route of the East and West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas that I >felt the dream was attainable. Once that decision became clear, almost all >the anxiety of the journey vanished. I wager that by the time you get to Mexico your possible itinerary will expand once again. Once you experience a different culture as a true prodigal aboard your own boat, communing with colleague voyagers both sail and power, and you have a few open ocean miles under your belt, you will understand that anything is possible given proper planning and preparation that you are doing. The adventure truly begins! Exciting! Congratulations! Patrick Willard 40PH ALOHA La Paz, MX ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Gerety <alohaboat@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <331520.63648.qm@web35906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter Pisciotta <peter@seaskills.com> To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:59:25 AM Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? >John and Pat Rains, both USCG masters (John with a >very high tonnage), were probably premier yacht >delivery resource on the Panama Canal route. >A couple years ago, they set aside their delivery >business in favor of their publishing efforts - they >have written several books, the most popular of which >was their Mexico Cruising Guide, which seems to keep >them quite busy and happy these days as they have also >set aside all other books including "Cruising Ports: >Florida to California" and "MexWX," both of which are >out of print, and therefore out of date. I believe that both of these books are being revised at this time. Go to the Rain's website and ask them about revisions. Out of print copies are available on both Ebay and Amazon from time to time. I purchased MexWX (out of print version) about a year ago, and I think it is still a good reference. >since the founder of Charlie's Charts died several >years ago (his publishing legacy continues through a >family member). I met Margo Wood, "Charlie" Wood's wife, at the Seattle Boat Show last January. She continues publishing Charlie's Charts. She is continually publishing updates which she gathers through loyal cruisers who send her revisions. I feel that the more information I have (even when somewhat out of date), the better informed I can be. Given the amount that most of us have invested in our boats, the extra cost of these publications is minimal. Besides, it makes it fun looking through all these resources as we plan our next jump into the unknown. Patrick Willard 40PH ALOHA La Paz, MX ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:32:04 -0700 From: John Marshall <johnamar1101@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] Reflections on moving aboard To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <F5568859-E39F-4F74-AACD-1E02C6C093A2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Scott, It's great reading of your account of preparing for your 'new life'. I find so many parallels to what my wife and I went through as we moved aboard, although we didn't cut all the connections to land living as you have. But we moved aboard at the end of March, then brought the boat up to Seattle area from Dana Point and have been living aboard and cruising the NW since. We don't plan on sleeping in our house again until October/November or so. One thing that's for sure... cruising plans don't survive the first significant change in location. Every time you change areas, horizons and opportunities expand. A casual discussion with a fellow cruiser turns into a burning desire to cruise to new locations. That happens about once a month in our case! Our plans in March had been FUBAR and then down through canal to Caribbean. But since we had a few months to kill, we decided to take a little 2500 mile 'side-trip' (a Nordhavn style side-trip) and see the NW. Once we got here, it was clear that we needed a season inside Vancouver Island and a season in Alaska before we went south (you have to really earn your way north along the Pacific coast in the Spring, so I'm not ready to spend that 'capital' just yet by going south). Now we are looking at the Caribbean in the winter of 2009. Maybe. I believe you have to have plans of a general sort... but even more than that, you need a willingness to change them. Learning to be a vagabond after being fixed in one location takes a little practice... by the time you're done with FUBAR I predict you'll be masters at that. There will be time later (hopefully much later) to settle back on land. Until then, enjoy... your adventure sounds like an exciting one (especially that trip south until you finally pass Point Conception!). May Neptune and the weather gods smile on you. John Marshall N5520 - Serendipity Anacortes, WA On Jul 21, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Scott Bulger wrote: > Tonight is the second night we will spend on Alanui, our Nordhavn > 40. Its > now or home, our transport, our life for at least 2 years, perhaps > more. > I'm flooded with thoughts and emotions as we say goodbye to so much > we have > known for so long. For 25 years we had the same phone number. For > 24 years > we had two daughters growing up in our care. For the last 9 years > we lived > in a wonderful home where my wife created a masterpiece of a > landscape. > But, a year ago we purchased Alanui and decided to take a precious > few years > to ourselves. The rational? Numerous people who said "if you have > the > chance, GO NOW!". Well, we took your advice, are have gone and > there are no > regrets. Getting here seemed to take but a moment. It seems like > just > yesterday we met Jeff Merrill in Dana Point and saw Alanui for the > first > time. It seems like yesterday I walked my two daughters down the isle > within 3 months of each other, in fact it was just weeks ago our > youngest > was married. So, here we go. > > We did a lot of things right getting here: We have the fortunate > situation > to have funds to support our retirement, but I will need to return > to work > upon return, primarily to secure medical benefits. We had a lot of > equity > in our house that we traded for the boat. A decision that I feel > is timely > given the house no longer met our needs and the markets are in such > turmoil > I won't miss being in the housing game. We chose a quality product > with a > loyal owner community that has adopted us with open arms and provided > endless support in answering questions and learning the systems on > the boat. > We have met people like Capt. Mike Maurice who is not only a great > consult, > but has become a great friend. We have listened to this list, > which planted > a concept in my mind that prevented me from grounding my boat (if > you don't > know where you are or are unsure, STOP the Boat). Made a plan > and we > stuck to it. > > We did some things wrong getting here: I shared my thoughts and > emotions > openly and honestly on this list, resulting in a very small group > of people > thinking I am a liar with some vendetta against a specific brand of > boats. > I failed to sell my Camano to two different buyers because I felt I > was > being bent over and over and over, when I probably should have just > swallowed hard and taken the offer, but who knows? We focused so > much on > selling the house that we neglected the boat. We arrived here > yesterday and > were both overwhelmed with the task at hand. We did make progress > today, so > at least there is now a place to sit. But, we have a long, long > way to go > to get the boat ship shape. When we leave we won't have everything > done, > but we will get it done as we travel south. > > In summary, getting here has been a challenge, but manageable. We > didn't > compress the time as some people do, but one thing stands out in my > mind as > a critical decision. When we started this adventure I had visions of > crossing the worlds oceans in my mind. After 4 months the goal > became to > travel to the South Pacific. It wasn't until we decided on a near > coastal > route of the East and West Coasts with a journey into the Bahamas > that I > felt the dream was attainable. Once that decision became clear, > almost all > the anxiety of the journey vanished. I know I can be successful > with the > itinerary we are taking on. Once that is complete, perhaps the > other goals > may be attainable. My hat goes off to people like Eric and Christy > Grabb > who did shove off and go to the South Pacific. I have tremendous > respect > and admiration for them. I couldn't do it and have no regrets. > So, while > the content of this has not had much to do with the voyage, it > certainly > captures my sentiment as we prepare for ours. Thanks! > > Scott and Marian Bulger, Living aboard Alanui, currently moored at > Lockhaven > Marina, Seattle WA! > > Departing August 30 from Neah Bay WA for the FUBAR rally and beyond. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Pisciotta <peter@seaskills.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <232555.27282.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> "Cruising Ports: >> Florida to California" and "MexWX," >> both of which are >> out of print, and therefore out of date. > PATRICK: > I believe that both of these books are being > revised at this time. I certainly hope so, but the last I talked to John Rains a couple years ago as he was getting out of the delivery business, I had the impression he wasn't doing a lot of travel by boat, so I wouldn't be surprised to learn there will be no update to that cruising guide. > PATRICK: > I met Margo Wood, "Charlie" Wood's wife, at the > Seattle Boat Show last January. She is > continually publishing updates through cruisers > who send her revisions. This was the "gold standard" of cruising guides for years. And I haven't read one in a number of years so I won't speak specifically about Charlie's Charts. But in general, cruising guides are interesting but not as detailed and well-researched as they should be - a careful eye will find many, many examples of language pulled directly from the non-copyrighted Coast Pilots. For example, until Don and Reanne Douglass wrote the quitissential guide on the US Pacific Coast ($60!!!), the only guide from San Francisco south was written by the same person who wrote the only guide for the Channel Islands off Santa Barbara. In some places the info was good, in other places, it was clear he had never visited the place. A park ranger at San Miguel Island once joked "If I had a dime for every anchorage that was identified as 'suicidal...'" A good cruising guide requires the author to make purpose-specific visits, not just recollections of a cruising voyage. But I agree with you Patrick - there's very little more satisfying than sitting down with any book/article and dreaming-the-dream. It's what I once heard referred to as the "Huck Finn Syndrome," the equivilent of floating down the Mississippi with a straw hat pushed over your brow to shield the sun. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Gerety <alohaboat@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] West coast of Central America Cruising Guide? To: Passagemaking Under Power List <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Message-ID: <984028.72722.qm@web35912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Okay, here is the latest on Rains' Central America Cruising Guide. The latest edition was just released in April, 2007. The revised MexWX should be available in the next couple of months. I advise that these Guides should only be used as an additional source of information. Often times, local knowledge is your best source of up-to-date infromation. Visit: centralamericanboating.com for the latest and ordering information. Patrick Willard 40PH ALOHA La Paz, MX ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 32, Issue 15 *********************************************************
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Peter Pisciotta
Mon, Jul 23, 2007 9:42 AM

Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown
period become a holiday vehicle for the kids on
tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in
inclement weather to meet a family member who had
booked a non refundable air fare to a destination
where all accommodation was booked out.

There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played
self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's
Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar).
She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a
modest sailboat for years and made a small living off
CDs and paid events.

Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard:
"They can pick the time, or they can pick the
destination. They can't pick both." I think that's
about right.

Peter

> Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown > period become a holiday vehicle for the kids on > tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in > inclement weather to meet a family member who had > booked a non refundable air fare to a destination > where all accommodation was booked out. There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar). She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a modest sailboat for years and made a small living off CDs and paid events. Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard: "They can pick the time, or they can pick the destination. They can't pick both." I think that's about right. Peter
K
Keith
Mon, Jul 23, 2007 11:23 AM

That would be Eileen Quinn... you can still get her music at her web site:
http://eileenquinn.com/
"The Anchoring Dance" is worth the price of the CD it's on!


...the perfect little parking place is easy to find
all you really gotta do is read his  mind
if what your honey wants is hard to tell
when the hand signals fail you can always yell
grind your teeth, shout till you're hoarse
there's always one more step, you can file for divorce
no better way to test a true romance
than to  do, do, do, do, do
do the anchoring dance
ease to starboard, then hard to port
throttle down but you come up short
up on the foredeck, see them prance
when they do, do, do, do, do
do the anchoring dance...

Keith


A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Pisciotta" peter@seaskills.com

There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played
self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's
Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar).
She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a
modest sailboat for years and made a small living off
CDs and paid events.

Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard:
"They can pick the time, or they can pick the
destination. They can't pick both." I think that's
about right.

That would be Eileen Quinn... you can still get her music at her web site: http://eileenquinn.com/ "The Anchoring Dance" is worth the price of the CD it's on! ________________________ ...the perfect little parking place is easy to find all you really gotta do is read his mind if what your honey wants is hard to tell when the hand signals fail you can always yell grind your teeth, shout till you're hoarse there's always one more step, you can file for divorce no better way to test a true romance than to do, do, do, do, do do the anchoring dance ease to starboard, then hard to port throttle down but you come up short up on the foredeck, see them prance when they do, do, do, do, do do the anchoring dance... Keith _____ A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Pisciotta" <peter@seaskills.com> > > There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played > self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's > Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar). > She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a > modest sailboat for years and made a small living off > CDs and paid events. > > Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard: > "They can pick the time, or they can pick the > destination. They can't pick both." I think that's > about right.
SM
Sonaia Maryon-Davis
Tue, Jul 24, 2007 6:51 PM

I could not agree more, Peter.  Never have to be somewhere at a certain date.
Chris

On 7/23/07, Peter Pisciotta peter@seaskills.com wrote:

Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown
period become a holiday vehicle for the kids on
tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in
inclement weather to meet a family member who had
booked a non refundable air fare to a destination
where all accommodation was booked out.

There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played
self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's
Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar).
She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a
modest sailboat for years and made a small living off
CDs and paid events.

Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard:
"They can pick the time, or they can pick the
destination. They can't pick both." I think that's
about right.

Peter


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I could not agree more, Peter. Never have to be somewhere at a certain date. Chris On 7/23/07, Peter Pisciotta <peter@seaskills.com> wrote: > > Firstly don't let the boat during the shakedown > > period become a holiday vehicle for the kids on > > tight schedules. We had to leave Brisbane in > > inclement weather to meet a family member who had > > booked a non refundable air fare to a destination > > where all accommodation was booked out. > > There used to be a guitar-playing woman who played > self written sea ballads and chanties at the Solomon's > Trawler Fest (her's was an extremely popular seminar). > She and her husband had cruised the Caribbean aboard a > modest sailboat for years and made a small living off > CDs and paid events. > > Her guidance on visitors was the best I've heard: > "They can pick the time, or they can pick the > destination. They can't pick both." I think that's > about right. > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.