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Racors 2 micron vs 10 micron (who knows?)

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Philip Odom
Sun, Jul 2, 2006 12:26 PM

I think I posted this years ago when this type of subject came up. I
questioned the micron rating of the CAV filters that most of us use and Wix
says their filter is 10 micron (part # 33166) and Lucas/Delphi claims theirs
(part # 7111-296) is 5-7 micron. Wix techs dispute Lucas... Probably Racor
would have their own spin on the subject..
Below are the emails I received FYI.
Good luck,
Phil

(Contact From WIXFILTERS)

Our 33166 part number is a direct cross reference to the Lucas 7111-296
part number.  This is the same part number used by C.A.V. who invented

this

type of filter.  Their filter contains media that is rated at 10 micron
like ours.  It does not have 2 micron media.  A particle that is 1
micrometer (micron) in diameter is .000039" across.  The average human

hair

has a diameter of 70 microns and the human eye can not see anything under
40 microns without magnification.  The difference between 2 and 10 microns
is measurable in the lab but is real life it makes very little, if any.
performance difference.

Thank you for your inquiry.

Chris Greeson
Technical Service Representative

(Contact from Lucas/Delphi)

The Delphi HDF296 has a micron rating of between 5-7 micron (average
contaminant size in testing is 6.9 micron).  Its average retention is not
less than 85% and is normally around 95%.  The rolled paper-type design of

the filter was pioneered by Delphi, and it still remains the benchmark for
this kind of filter.

I hope that this answers your question, and if you have any further

queries,

please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards

Ian Girle
Product Manager
Filtration

I think I posted this years ago when this type of subject came up. I questioned the micron rating of the CAV filters that most of us use and Wix says their filter is 10 micron (part # 33166) and Lucas/Delphi claims theirs (part # 7111-296) is 5-7 micron. Wix techs dispute Lucas... Probably Racor would have their own spin on the subject.. Below are the emails I received FYI. Good luck, Phil (Contact From WIXFILTERS) >Our 33166 part number is a direct cross reference to the Lucas 7111-296 > part number. This is the same part number used by C.A.V. who invented this > type of filter. Their filter contains media that is rated at 10 micron > like ours. It does not have 2 micron media. A particle that is 1 > micrometer (micron) in diameter is .000039" across. The average human hair > has a diameter of 70 microns and the human eye can not see anything under > 40 microns without magnification. The difference between 2 and 10 microns > is measurable in the lab but is real life it makes very little, if any. > performance difference. > > Thank you for your inquiry. > > Chris Greeson > Technical Service Representative (Contact from Lucas/Delphi) > The Delphi HDF296 has a micron rating of between 5-7 micron (average > contaminant size in testing is 6.9 micron). Its average retention is not > less than 85% and is normally around 95%. The rolled paper-type design of > the filter was pioneered by Delphi, and it still remains the benchmark for > this kind of filter. > > I hope that this answers your question, and if you have any further queries, > please do not hesitate to contact me. > > Kind regards > > Ian Girle > Product Manager > Filtration
BH
Brent Hodges
Thu, Jul 6, 2006 2:23 PM

When I talked to Bob Smith a couple of years ago, we discussed these
filters. While he approves of Wix for oil filters and such, for some reason
he doesn't think much of the Wix version of the CAV filter. It is a
different type of filter media, so I guess it sort of makes sense to me.
When I bought my boat 5 years ago, I let the PO tell me what filters I
needed for the delivery trip, and for some unknown reason he had me buy 24
Wix filters for the engine! It has taken me all this time to use up my
"stores" of these filters, and when I do, I'll either do the adapter thing
and go to a spin on, or I'll go to using the Delphi brand. A bonus is that
at the local O'Reily's the Wix 33166 is $7.49 and the Delphi from AD is
$6.25. Buy 8 or so at a time and with freight they will be about the same
price and you save sales tax.

Brent Hodges

When I talked to Bob Smith a couple of years ago, we discussed these filters. While he approves of Wix for oil filters and such, for some reason he doesn't think much of the Wix version of the CAV filter. It is a different type of filter media, so I guess it sort of makes sense to me. When I bought my boat 5 years ago, I let the PO tell me what filters I needed for the delivery trip, and for some unknown reason he had me buy 24 Wix filters for the engine! It has taken me all this time to use up my "stores" of these filters, and when I do, I'll either do the adapter thing and go to a spin on, or I'll go to using the Delphi brand. A bonus is that at the local O'Reily's the Wix 33166 is $7.49 and the Delphi from AD is $6.25. Buy 8 or so at a time and with freight they will be about the same price and you save sales tax. Brent Hodges