My definition of a scam is where a product or service is paid for and not delivered. If any one has paid one of these services for a renewal and not received it, please let us all know. Phil posted that he paid for 5 year renewal and was told that the renewals will be sent yearly. I can understand the frustration and disappointment, but until years 2-5 don't show up, it isn't a scam. Although Phil's case may fall into a special category since he notified them not to send them. I don't like the close resemblance to the official web site either, but until they fail to produce what was paid for, I find it difficult to label them a scam. On the other hand, keep posting, I just might change my mind, especially if some legal eagles post relevant information. *RUDY & JILL SECHEZ* *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* New Smyrna FL TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

The design of the website, the correspondence, the reaction from the USCG and Boat/US along with all the other warnings appearing on this and many other forums are all indicative of a business that uses deceit as an integral part of its business model. That's undeniable. It's not a business that garners a lot of positive reviews, other than the dubious "testimonials" on its own website. If you do a bit of research into its principal, you'll find bits & pieces that share a common thread, and that thread is just slimy. I'm with Rich, quacks like a duck. ... ------- Steve Sipe Solo 4303 /Maerin/ Brunswick On 8/12/2019 8:41 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > My definition of a scam is where a product or service is paid for and not > delivered. If any one has paid one of these services for a renewal and not > received it, please let us all know. Phil posted that he paid for 5 year > renewal and was told that the renewals will be sent yearly. <snip>

UNCLE, okay I'll admit to it being "scammy"! *RUDY & JILL SECHEZ* *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* Daytona FL TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 7:44 AM Steve Sipe via Trawlers-and-Trawlering < trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > The design of the website, the correspondence, the reaction from the > USCG and Boat/US along with all the other warnings appearing on this and > many other forums are all indicative of a business that uses deceit as > an integral part of its business model. That's undeniable. It's not a > business that garners a lot of positive reviews, other than the dubious > "testimonials" on its own website. If you do a bit of research into its > principal, you'll find bits & pieces that share a common thread, and > that thread is just slimy. I'm with Rich, quacks like a duck. ... > > > ------- > Steve Sipe > Solo 4303 /Maerin/ > Brunswick > > On 8/12/2019 8:41 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > > My definition of a scam is where a product or service is paid for and not > > delivered. If any one has paid one of these services for a renewal and > not > > received it, please let us all know. Phil posted that he paid for 5 year > > renewal and was told that the renewals will be sent yearly. <snip> > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. >