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TWL: My little experiment

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alexh@gte.net
Sat, Sep 2, 2000 6:23 PM

Howdy folks,

Earlier this month there was a discussion concerning whether water would
evaporate at a different rate if it was covered by a layer of diesel fuel.
This applies to trawlers in that it has implications for properly managing
your boats fuel tankage.

Some of us predicted that a layer of fuel would "seal off" whatever water is
present and prevent it from evaporating while others said that the fuel
layer wouldn't affect the water at all.

On August 9 I outlined an experiment to shed some light on the question. I
actually started the experiment on August 14. There will be those who feel
that I procrastinated in getting this thing underway but as you read on I'm
sure that you'll get an idea of the work and planning that goes into an
experiment of this profound subtlety.

The experiment can be described in phases:

Phase 1 -  Procure hardware; Two Mason(tm) jars and a tablespoon measure.

Phase 2 - Procure reagents; diesel fuel #2 (low sulfur) and water.

Phase 3 - Set up; Put three (3) tablespoons water into each mason jar then
add enough diesel to form a layer approx 3/16" thick on top of the water in
one of the jars.

Phase 4 - Implementation; Set both jars on the patio such that (a) they
don't get rained on and (b) the diesel doesn't stink up the house.

Phase 5 - Wait....

Phase 6 - Look at the two jars......

Phase 7 through 12 or so - Repeat phase 5 & 6 ad nauseum.

Phase 13 - Omitted (for obvious reasons)

Phase 14 - Report findings to Trawler World List.

As of September 2 the "water only" jar has completely evaporated while the
"water under diesel" jar has maintained its original level within the limits
of my ability to measure it.

Conclusion - Paul Kruse and I get to give our naysayers a big nyah nyah!

A note to those intrepid experimenters that would follow in my pioneering
footsteps: Use less water! They say  that a watched pot never boils and I
can confirm that a watched Mason(tm) jar never evaporates.

Experimentally yours,

Alex

Howdy folks, Earlier this month there was a discussion concerning whether water would evaporate at a different rate if it was covered by a layer of diesel fuel. This applies to trawlers in that it has implications for properly managing your boats fuel tankage. Some of us predicted that a layer of fuel would "seal off" whatever water is present and prevent it from evaporating while others said that the fuel layer wouldn't affect the water at all. On August 9 I outlined an experiment to shed some light on the question. I actually started the experiment on August 14. There will be those who feel that I procrastinated in getting this thing underway but as you read on I'm sure that you'll get an idea of the work and planning that goes into an experiment of this profound subtlety. The experiment can be described in phases: Phase 1 - Procure hardware; Two Mason(tm) jars and a tablespoon measure. Phase 2 - Procure reagents; diesel fuel #2 (low sulfur) and water. Phase 3 - Set up; Put three (3) tablespoons water into each mason jar then add enough diesel to form a layer approx 3/16" thick on top of the water in one of the jars. Phase 4 - Implementation; Set both jars on the patio such that (a) they don't get rained on and (b) the diesel doesn't stink up the house. Phase 5 - Wait.... Phase 6 - Look at the two jars...... Phase 7 through 12 or so - Repeat phase 5 & 6 ad nauseum. Phase 13 - Omitted (for obvious reasons) Phase 14 - Report findings to Trawler World List. As of September 2 the "water only" jar has completely evaporated while the "water under diesel" jar has maintained its original level within the limits of my ability to measure it. Conclusion - Paul Kruse and I get to give our naysayers a big nyah nyah! A note to those intrepid experimenters that would follow in my pioneering footsteps: Use less water! They say that a watched pot never boils and I can confirm that a watched Mason(tm) jar never evaporates. Experimentally yours, Alex
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bob@eastcaribbean.com
Sat, Sep 2, 2000 11:25 PM

Alex Hirsekorn wrote:

As of September 2 the "water only" jar has completely evaporated while the
"water under diesel" jar has maintained its original level within the limits
of my ability to measure it.

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And this seems to explain the reason why a thin layer of light machine
oil is added to cover the electrolyte in wet cell ni-cads, and why under
normal use the fluid level only needs to be checked semi-annually.

Bob


Bob Conrich                      bob@eastcaribbean.com
Box 666                          http://www.ai/bob
Anguilla                        Tel:    264 497 2505
British West Indies

Alex Hirsekorn wrote: > > As of September 2 the "water only" jar has completely evaporated while the > "water under diesel" jar has maintained its original level within the limits > of my ability to measure it. -- And this seems to explain the reason why a thin layer of light machine oil is added to cover the electrolyte in wet cell ni-cads, and why under normal use the fluid level only needs to be checked semi-annually. Bob ------------------------------------------------------ Bob Conrich bob@eastcaribbean.com Box 666 http://www.ai/bob Anguilla Tel: 264 497 2505 British West Indies ------------------------------------------------------
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scaramouche@tvo.org
Sun, Sep 3, 2000 3:51 AM

alexh@gte.net writes:

A note to those intrepid experimenters that would follow in my
pioneering
footsteps: Use less water! They say  that a watched pot never boils
and I
can confirm that a watched Mason(tm) jar never evaporates.

Thank you Alex for a very well thought out and  superbly organized
scientific experiment. Taking your conclusion: "USE LESS WATER!" one
step further, I shall for next season add a thin layer of Diesel to
my fresh water tank. I am confident that there will be far less water
wasted/consumed. In fact one tank full might last the whole season.
Please look for my report in 2001....

alexh@gte.net writes: >A note to those intrepid experimenters that would follow in my >pioneering >footsteps: Use less water! They say that a watched pot never boils >and I >can confirm that a watched Mason(tm) jar never evaporates. Thank you Alex for a very well thought out and superbly organized scientific experiment. Taking your conclusion: "USE LESS WATER!" one step further, I shall for next season add a thin layer of Diesel to my fresh water tank. I am confident that there will be far less water wasted/consumed. In fact one tank full might last the whole season. Please look for my report in 2001....