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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

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GandalfG8@aol.com
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 7:15 PM

Hi Gotz

That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later.

At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any  wiring
whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a
dark corner on the night of the full moon:-)

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de
writes:

Am 02.11.2014 15:08, :

Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear  !!

Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest  photos, and
unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon  the

expression:-),

your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10,  12, and 15,  but on pins

4, 6,

11, and 13.

As far  as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as

shown

starts in the top right hand corner and every row is  numbered right to
left.
That's certainly how mine are numbered  anyway, and I wired them
accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck  does that leave us now?:-)


thanks  Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and
tested some  reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple
scheme:
it seems  to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground).
Numbering as  provided by Nigel and markings on my 15  pin-plug.

Götz

Hi Gotz That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later. At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any wiring whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a dark corner on the night of the full moon:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de writes: Am 02.11.2014 15:08, : > Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear !! > > Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest photos, and > unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon the expression:-), > your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10, 12, and 15, but on pins 4, 6, > 11, and 13. > > As far as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as shown > starts in the top right hand corner and every row is numbered right to > left. > That's certainly how mine are numbered anyway, and I wired them > accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck does that leave us now?:-) > -------------------------- thanks Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and tested some reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple scheme: it seems to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground). Numbering as provided by Nigel and markings on my 15 pin-plug. Götz
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 7:41 PM

Hi

No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …).

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Hi Gotz

That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later.

At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any  wiring
whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a
dark corner on the night of the full moon:-)

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de
writes:

Am 02.11.2014 15:08, :

Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear  !!

Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest  photos, and
unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon  the

expression:-),

your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10,  12, and 15,  but on pins

4, 6,

11, and 13.

As far  as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as

shown

starts in the top right hand corner and every row is  numbered right to
left.
That's certainly how mine are numbered  anyway, and I wired them
accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck  does that leave us now?:-)


thanks  Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and
tested some  reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple
scheme:
it seems  to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground).
Numbering as  provided by Nigel and markings on my 15  pin-plug.

Götz


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Hi No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …). Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > > Hi Gotz > > That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later. > > At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any wiring > whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a > dark corner on the night of the full moon:-) > > Regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR > > > In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de > writes: > > > > Am 02.11.2014 15:08, : >> Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear !! >> >> Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest photos, and >> unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon the > expression:-), >> your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10, 12, and 15, but on pins > 4, 6, >> 11, and 13. >> >> As far as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as > shown >> starts in the top right hand corner and every row is numbered right to >> left. >> That's certainly how mine are numbered anyway, and I wired them >> accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck does that leave us now?:-) >> > -------------------------- > thanks Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and > tested some reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple > scheme: > it seems to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground). > Numbering as provided by Nigel and markings on my 15 pin-plug. > > Götz > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
BS
Bob Stewart
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 7:56 PM

Hi Bob,
There's also the option of the SSR-6Tr and adapter board from Synergy GPS.  It should plug right in.  You'd need the Oncore compatible version.  Kinda pricey though.

Bob
From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: GandalfG8@aol.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

Hi

No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …).

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Hi Gotz

That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later.

At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any  wiring
whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a 
dark corner on the night of the full moon:-)

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de
writes:

Am 02.11.2014 15:08, :

Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear  !!

Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest  photos, and
unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon  the 

expression:-),

your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10,  12, and 15,  but on pins

4, 6,

11, and 13.

As far  as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as 

shown

  starts in the top right hand corner and every row is  numbered right to
left.
That's certainly how mine are numbered  anyway, and I wired them
accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck  does that leave us now?:-)


thanks  Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and
tested some  reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple
scheme:
it seems  to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground).
Numbering as  provided by Nigel and markings on my 15  pin-plug.

Götz


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Hi Bob, There's also the option of the SSR-6Tr and adapter board from Synergy GPS.  It should plug right in.  You'd need the Oncore compatible version.  Kinda pricey though. Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> To: GandalfG8@aol.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... Hi No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …). Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > > Hi Gotz > > That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later. > > At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any  wiring > whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a  > dark corner on the night of the full moon:-) > > Regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR > > > In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de > writes: > > > > Am 02.11.2014 15:08, : >> Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear  !! >> >> Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest  photos, and >> unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon  the  > expression:-), >> your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10,  12, and 15,  but on pins > 4, 6, >> 11, and 13. >> >> As far  as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as  > shown >>  starts in the top right hand corner and every row is  numbered right to >> left. >> That's certainly how mine are numbered  anyway, and I wired them >> accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck  does that leave us now?:-) >> > -------------------------- > thanks  Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and > tested some  reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple > scheme: > it seems  to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground). > Numbering as  provided by Nigel and markings on my 15  pin-plug. > > Götz > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 8:07 PM

Hi

It might plug in the GPS version. It also might report more sat’s than the firmware expects and everything would quickly die. That’s certainly the case with retrofitting some of the other early GPSDO’s. I think I’d rather play with faking out non-GPS version.

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

Hi Bob,
There's also the option of the SSR-6Tr and adapter board from Synergy GPS.  It should plug right in.  You'd need the Oncore compatible version.  Kinda pricey though.

Bob
From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: GandalfG8@aol.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

Hi

No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …).

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Hi Gotz

That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later.

At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any  wiring
whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a
dark corner on the night of the full moon:-)

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de
writes:

Am 02.11.2014 15:08, :

Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear  !!

Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest  photos, and
unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon  the

expression:-),

your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10,  12, and 15,  but on pins

4, 6,

11, and 13.

As far  as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as

shown

starts in the top right hand corner and every row is  numbered right to
left.
That's certainly how mine are numbered  anyway, and I wired them
accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck  does that leave us now?:-)


thanks  Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and
tested some  reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple
scheme:
it seems  to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground).
Numbering as  provided by Nigel and markings on my 15  pin-plug.

Götz


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Hi It *might* plug in the GPS version. It also might report more sat’s than the firmware expects and everything would quickly die. That’s certainly the case with retrofitting some of the other early GPSDO’s. I think I’d rather play with faking out non-GPS version. Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > There's also the option of the SSR-6Tr and adapter board from Synergy GPS. It should plug right in. You'd need the Oncore compatible version. Kinda pricey though. > > Bob > From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> > To: GandalfG8@aol.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... > > Hi > > No, once we get the GPS end worked out, we need to do the same thing for the non-GPS end. If we can fake it into working with just a PPS, it’s the perfect thing to use to attach an OCXO to a newer GPS (like the Jackson Labs part …). > > Bob > >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 2:15 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Gotz >> >> That's great stuff, thank you, I'll try that later. >> >> At this rate we'll soon be finding ways of doing this without any wiring >> whatsoever, perhaps we could start with just standing it upside down in a >> dark corner on the night of the full moon:-) >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> >> >> In a message dated 02/11/2014 17:58:12 GMT Standard Time, goetz@g-romahn.de >> writes: >> >> >> >> Am 02.11.2014 15:08, : >>> Ooh err, whoops, and oh dear !! >>> >>> Arthur, I've only just had a chance to look at your latest photos, and >>> unless I've really got my wires crossed, if you'll pardon the >> expression:-), >>> your links on J5 are not shown on pins 2, 10, 12, and 15, but on pins >> 4, 6, >>> 11, and 13. >>> >>> As far as I'm aware the numbering from the front of that connector as >> shown >>> starts in the top right hand corner and every row is numbered right to >>> left. >>> That's certainly how mine are numbered anyway, and I wired them >>> accordingly, and it worked, so where the heck does that leave us now?:-) >>> >> -------------------------- >> thanks Nigel for detecting this glitch. I removed all jumpers now and >> tested some reasonable new/old combinations resulting in very simple >> scheme: >> it seems to be sufficient to connect pin2 and pin3 to pin8 (ground). >> Numbering as provided by Nigel and markings on my 15 pin-plug. >> >> Götz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.