A little quick advice, please
And for what it's worth, my digital scope is a TDS-1012 and I've been happy with it.
John
On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:32 PM, "J. Forster" jfor@quik.com wrote:
A couple of months ago, I bought a used Tek TDS 1002 for under $300. I've
always been very skeptical about DSOs and just love 7xxx series analog
units, but I needed something for occasional portable use.
I was pleasantly surprised. IMO, it's not an analog scope, but it does
have nice features, including an FFT function (not a real SA, but pretty
good to 100 MHz or so).
I'd look for a stand-alone unit, rather than a PC card.
(I'd love to get the interface card, but they seem to be rare.)
FWIW,
-John
===============
'morning, folks,
I was just on a verge of purchasing a Tek TDS1012 scope when a friend
suggested that I could save a chunk of change by buying a BitScope.
Although
I've been aware of PC scopes, I never really looked into them. The specs
look pretty good (the fact that I was looking at an entry-level Tek will
give you some idea of my needs).
Anyone have any experience with BitScope or other of the low-end PC
scopes?
Thanks,
Bill
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Hi Bill:
I really like the Rigol carry case for the scope since it's a way to
keep all the bits and pieces together. So if you're shopping eBay look
for the combination package that includes the carry case. Deal Extreme
had the best price last time I looked. Watch the reviews linked on my
Rigol weg page done by EEVB.
http://www.prc68.com/I/RigolDS1052E.shtml
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
William H. Fite wrote:
Interesting that you should post this, Brooke. The local guy who was
going to sell me the TDS1012 got in touch and asked if I had looked at
the Rigol DS1052E. He's a buddy and was selling me the Tek at his
cost so no skin off his nose if I buy a Rigol--which he does not
sell. I've spent the last hour or so reading reviews and they are
uniformly excellent. So I think I'm going that way. The low screen
resolution will annoy me for a week and then I'll forget it. My needs
are not demanding and it should do just fine.
As to all the folks advocating 7xxx, 2xxx, etc. Tek scopes, I am
neither an EE or a technician and trying to keep a 20+ year old scope
running offers no allure for me. I don't like troubleshooting and I
don't do it efficiently, so...
Anyway, if you have time, give me a more detailed review of the Rigol
from your own experience.
Thanks,
Bill
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Brooke Clarke <brooke95482@att.net
mailto:brooke95482@att.net> wrote:
Hi Bill:
I too looked at the BitScope but went with the Rigol. It turns
out that Rigol DS1052E makes the low end HP scopes, i.e. they are
very high quality and fantastic value for the money. There's a
software hack to upgrade them from 50 to 100 Mhz. See:
http://www.prc68.com/I/RigolDS1052E.shtml
Also check out the EEVB blog videos on this scope linked on the
above web page.
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
William H. Fite wrote:
'morning, folks,
I was just on a verge of purchasing a Tek TDS1012 scope when a
friend
suggested that I could save a chunk of change by buying a
BitScope. Although
I've been aware of PC scopes, I never really looked into them.
The specs
look pretty good (the fact that I was looking at an
entry-level Tek will
give you some idea of my needs).
Anyone have any experience with BitScope or other of the
low-end PC scopes?
Thanks,
Bill
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It looks like Rigol cloned Tek or Tek cloned Rigol.
-John
===============
Hi Bill:
I really like the Rigol carry case for the scope since it's a way to
keep all the bits and pieces together. So if you're shopping eBay look
for the combination package that includes the carry case. Deal Extreme
had the best price last time I looked. Watch the reviews linked on my
Rigol weg page done by EEVB.
http://www.prc68.com/I/RigolDS1052E.shtml
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
William H. Fite wrote:
Interesting that you should post this, Brooke. The local guy who was
going to sell me the TDS1012 got in touch and asked if I had looked at
the Rigol DS1052E. He's a buddy and was selling me the Tek at his
cost so no skin off his nose if I buy a Rigol--which he does not
sell. I've spent the last hour or so reading reviews and they are
uniformly excellent. So I think I'm going that way. The low screen
resolution will annoy me for a week and then I'll forget it. My needs
are not demanding and it should do just fine.
As to all the folks advocating 7xxx, 2xxx, etc. Tek scopes, I am
neither an EE or a technician and trying to keep a 20+ year old scope
running offers no allure for me. I don't like troubleshooting and I
don't do it efficiently, so...
Anyway, if you have time, give me a more detailed review of the Rigol
from your own experience.
Thanks,
Bill
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Brooke Clarke <brooke95482@att.net
mailto:brooke95482@att.net> wrote:
Hi Bill:
I too looked at the BitScope but went with the Rigol. It turns
out that Rigol DS1052E makes the low end HP scopes, i.e. they are
very high quality and fantastic value for the money. There's a
software hack to upgrade them from 50 to 100 Mhz. See:
http://www.prc68.com/I/RigolDS1052E.shtml
Also check out the EEVB blog videos on this scope linked on the
above web page.
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
William H. Fite wrote:
'morning, folks,
I was just on a verge of purchasing a Tek TDS1012 scope when a
friend
suggested that I could save a chunk of change by buying a
BitScope. Although
I've been aware of PC scopes, I never really looked into them.
The specs
look pretty good (the fact that I was looking at an
entry-level Tek will
give you some idea of my needs).
Anyone have any experience with BitScope or other of the
low-end PC scopes?
Thanks,
Bill
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http://www.saelig.com/ has some inexpensive and interesting stuff (I have
not bought
anything from them yet, but the bench scopes start at $287!).
Stan
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Subject: [time-nuts] A little quick advice, please
'morning, folks,
I was just on a verge of purchasing a Tek TDS1012 scope when a friend
suggested that I could save a chunk of change by buying a BitScope. Although
I've been aware of PC scopes, I never really looked into them. The specs
look pretty good (the fact that I was looking at an entry-level Tek will
give you some idea of my needs).
Anyone have any experience with BitScope or other of the low-end PC scopes?
Thanks,
Bill
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On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:25:22PM -0700, J. Forster wrote:
Two comments:
I have a lot of Tek 7xxx stuff and almost none of it cost anything like
$0.50 on the dollar. Virtually everything cost well under $0.10 /dollar.
I would agree... I have rarely seen 80s/90s used TE sell for
more than about 5 cents on the original MSRP dollar... lots is
advertised for more, but look on Terapeak and see how much of that
actually ever sells at those prices. One assumes the few items that do
sell at those exorbitant prices are either sold to naive newbies who
don't know better or some company or agency that has the gear written
into a test procedure or installed in a system with specific to the
device software and simply MUST have an exact replacement. And I darkly
suspect a few sales at high prices are money laundering... or conceal
other shenanigans...
Your worries about warrantee are quite valid. But if I can get a used
scope or bit of test equipment for less than $0.50 on the dollar of a
new one, it's a pretty good bargain for home use. If it is for work,
whole different story. That's where the 2236 came in. I was making a
living on the road doing field service. It couldn't break or I'd be in
deep sneakers. So it arrived new in a box. Of course that was many
many moons ago.
Bob
KI2L
--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."
Pretty much agreed.
There are a few dealers who hold out for near-list prices and can afford
to have stuff not move, because when they do make a sale the profit is
very high. Some, like ElectroCraft, don't make it. Others, like Tucker,
apparently do.
I frankly doubt that the "gotta have XYZ and only that" is very big any
more because the US doesn't make all that much hardware any more.
FWIW,
-John
============
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:25:22PM -0700, J. Forster wrote:
Two comments:
I have a lot of Tek 7xxx stuff and almost none of it cost anything like
$0.50 on the dollar. Virtually everything cost well under $0.10 /dollar.
I would agree... I have rarely seen 80s/90s used TE sell for
more than about 5 cents on the original MSRP dollar... lots is
advertised for more, but look on Terapeak and see how much of that
actually ever sells at those prices. One assumes the few items that do
sell at those exorbitant prices are either sold to naive newbies who
don't know better or some company or agency that has the gear written
into a test procedure or installed in a system with specific to the
device software and simply MUST have an exact replacement. And I darkly
suspect a few sales at high prices are money laundering... or conceal
other shenanigans...
Your worries about warrantee are quite valid. But if I can get a used
scope or bit of test equipment for less than $0.50 on the dollar of a
new one, it's a pretty good bargain for home use. If it is for work,
whole different story. That's where the 2236 came in. I was making a
living on the road doing field service. It couldn't break or I'd be in
deep sneakers. So it arrived new in a box. Of course that was many
many moons ago.
Bob
KI2L
--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass
02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole -
in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now
either."
On 11/01/2010 01:42 AM, J. Forster wrote:
Pretty much agreed.
There are a few dealers who hold out for near-list prices and can afford
to have stuff not move, because when they do make a sale the profit is
very high. Some, like ElectroCraft, don't make it. Others, like Tucker,
apparently do.
I frankly doubt that the "gotta have XYZ and only that" is very big any
more because the US doesn't make all that much hardware any more.
Regardless where the hardware is made, the prime time for certain boxes
is limited, after that they are plentiful enough available such that
certain high-price strategies doesn't hold too long.
Certain very specific things can be found for decent prices, even if
still fairly substantial sums.
I've picked up several nice things which I never tough I could afford,
but the price was much more manageable all of a sudden. I had to pick
the pieces from different places, but the end set is more or less complete.
In one case I made an offer one of those shelf-warmers that is pretty
useless for most people. I tossed in the offer at 1/3 of the asking
price, and they accepted. Both parties happy I guess. I got the
calibrator for the 5370 and 5372 counters. Should use that a little more
often.
Cheers,
Magnus