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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 84, Issue 25

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Burt I. Weiner
Fri, Jul 8, 2011 6:11 PM

Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist
watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is.  For a
wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout.  I grew
up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time
and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the
hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head.  All that I
need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a
turn of the big hand.  In my case I don't always need precision time,
I deal with that separately.

Burt, K6OQK

From: John Green wpxs472@gmail.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone
or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my
wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind bothers me.

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California  U.S.A.
biwa@att.net
www.biwa.cc
K6OQK

Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is. For a wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout. I grew up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head. All that I need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a turn of the big hand. In my case I don't always need precision time, I deal with that separately. Burt, K6OQK >From: John Green <wpxs472@gmail.com> >To: time-nuts@febo.com >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch? > >I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone >or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my >wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind bothers me. Burt I. Weiner Associates Broadcast Technical Services Glendale, California U.S.A. biwa@att.net www.biwa.cc K6OQK
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David I. Emery
Fri, Jul 8, 2011 9:58 PM

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:11:34AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote:

Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist
watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is.  For a
wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout.  I grew
up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time
and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the
hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head.  All that I
need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a
turn of the big hand.  In my case I don't always need precision time,
I deal with that separately.

I actually wear an 80s AE-20W Casio watch that has both

synthetic LCD hands on a clockface and a normal digital time display.
The LCD hands are sync'd with the digital display - unlike some hybrids
where a mechanical type movement driven by a step pulse was combined
with a digital time/stopwatch/alarm display that had no other connection
to it other than a common timebase.

--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:11:34AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote: > Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist > watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is. For a > wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout. I grew > up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time > and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the > hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head. All that I > need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a > turn of the big hand. In my case I don't always need precision time, > I deal with that separately. I actually wear an 80s AE-20W Casio watch that has both synthetic LCD hands on a clockface and a normal digital time display. The LCD hands are sync'd with the digital display - unlike some hybrids where a mechanical type movement driven by a step pulse was combined with a digital time/stopwatch/alarm display that had no other connection to it other than a common timebase. -- Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."
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brent evers
Sat, Jul 9, 2011 12:12 AM

I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite
useful.  I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to
"science time" (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened
to be adhering to for daily operations, which can vary quite a bit
when you are working near the poles.

Brent

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:58 PM, David I. Emery die@dieconsulting.com wrote:

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:11:34AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote:

Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist
watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is.  For a
wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout.  I grew
up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time
and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the
hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head.   All that I
need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a
turn of the big hand.  In my case I don't always need precision time,
I deal with that separately.

       I actually wear an 80s AE-20W Casio watch that has both
synthetic LCD hands on a clockface and a normal digital time display.
The LCD hands are sync'd with the digital display - unlike some hybrids
where a mechanical type movement driven by a step pulse was combined
with a digital time/stopwatch/alarm display that had no other connection
to it other than a common timebase.

--
 Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."


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I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite useful. I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to "science time" (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened to be adhering to for daily operations, which can vary quite a bit when you are working near the poles. Brent On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:58 PM, David I. Emery <die@dieconsulting.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:11:34AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote: >> Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist >> watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is.  For a >> wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout.  I grew >> up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time >> and how much time I had simply by looking at the position of the >> hands, I didn't have to do any math at all in my head.   All that I >> need to know, for example, is that I need to be somewhere in 3/4 of a >> turn of the big hand.  In my case I don't always need precision time, >> I deal with that separately. > >        I actually wear an 80s AE-20W Casio watch that has both > synthetic LCD hands on a clockface and a normal digital time display. > The LCD hands are sync'd with the digital display - unlike some hybrids > where a mechanical type movement driven by a step pulse was combined > with a digital time/stopwatch/alarm display that had no other connection > to it other than a common timebase. > > > > -- >  Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 > "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten > 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in > celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either." > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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David I. Emery
Sat, Jul 9, 2011 1:44 AM

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:12:42PM -0400, brent evers wrote:

I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite
useful.  I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to
"science time" (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened
to be adhering to for daily operations, which can vary quite a bit
when you are working near the poles.

This watch does that, it has dual times of day and a mode where a 

secondary window displays the second time zone with the hands and the
primary display on the other.

Interestingly the two times it keeps can be off in the minutes and

hours, but not in the seconds.  Are those world cities where for religious
purposes mean solar time is observed only on even minute boundaries ?

--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:12:42PM -0400, brent evers wrote: > I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite > useful. I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to > "science time" (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened > to be adhering to for daily operations, which can vary quite a bit > when you are working near the poles. This watch does that, it has dual times of day and a mode where a secondary window displays the second time zone with the hands and the primary display on the other. Interestingly the two times it keeps can be off in the minutes and hours, but not in the seconds. Are those world cities where for religious purposes mean solar time is observed only on even minute boundaries ? -- Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."