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Re: TWL: Amps

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Wed, Oct 18, 2000 2:17 PM

At 11:29 PM 10/17/00 -0400, you wrote:

Ken Adrian asked:

  1. If I have two batteries with 800 cranking amps each when I hook them
    together will I have 1600 cranking amps?
  2. What is the difference between amps and cranking amps?
  3. How many cranking amps do I need? The boat came with two D8s for
    starting batteries and an S/P switch (all three are on the way to the bone
    yard.)
    Thanks
    [edited]

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Captain Al Pilvinis responds:
No you will have half or 800, but 800 at 24 volts is equal to 1600 at 12
volts.

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I find this confusing. If you place two 800 cranking amp 12V batteries in
parallel (plus post to plus post and negative to negative) - you get 1600
cranking amps at 12V. If you place them in series (plus to minus and minus
to plus) you get 800 amps at 24V.  Using a very large capacity battery
switch will serve to parallel these batteries for starting purposes. Al then
states "By the way Cold cranking amps are about twice as much as Marine
cranking amps. Thats why I use automotive Die Hards, a 550 cold cranking amp
battery is equivalent to a thousand amp marine cranking battery."  I'm sure
that is true, but it does not alter the computation. It does, however, alter
the power available (amps) to start the engine(s).

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Ken-------Ron is going into over kill. what HP engines do you have. I know
a single Automotive Die Hard will crank a 300 HP diesel for quite a long
period of time. We did a test by shutting off the fuel and tried cranking
the engine intermittently and gave up thinking we might burn out the
starter motor.
On my own boat 220 HP I have 3 Diehards in parallel which gives me about
1800 cold cranking amps, about the same as 4000 marine cranking amps. My
house bank is also automotive Die Hards 7 year warranty and 2 year free
replacement. You can replace your batteries every 2 years, they have a very
liberal retun policy.
I keep fresh batteries on board all the time. And check the price
especially on sale.
Just make sure you tell Sears they are for a car othewise the warranty is
cut in half. I can see no good reason to have marine or deep cycle
batteries on board.
.
Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email  yourcaptain@earthlink.net
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At 11:29 PM 10/17/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ken Adrian asked: >1) If I have two batteries with 800 cranking amps each when I hook them >together will I have 1600 cranking amps? >2) What is the difference between amps and cranking amps? >3) How many cranking amps do I need? The boat came with two D8s for >starting batteries and an S/P switch (all three are on the way to the bone >yard.) >Thanks >[edited] >============================================================= >Captain Al Pilvinis responds: >No you will have half or 800, but 800 at 24 volts is equal to 1600 at 12 >volts. >============================================================= > >I find this confusing. If you place two 800 cranking amp 12V batteries in >parallel (plus post to plus post and negative to negative) - you get 1600 >cranking amps at 12V. If you place them in series (plus to minus and minus >to plus) you get 800 amps at 24V. Using a very large capacity battery >switch will serve to parallel these batteries for starting purposes. Al then >states "By the way Cold cranking amps are about twice as much as Marine >cranking amps. Thats why I use automotive Die Hards, a 550 cold cranking amp >battery is equivalent to a thousand amp marine cranking battery." I'm sure >that is true, but it does not alter the computation. It does, however, alter >the power available (amps) to start the engine(s). =============================================================== Ken-------Ron is going into over kill. what HP engines do you have. I know a single Automotive Die Hard will crank a 300 HP diesel for quite a long period of time. We did a test by shutting off the fuel and tried cranking the engine intermittently and gave up thinking we might burn out the starter motor. On my own boat 220 HP I have 3 Diehards in parallel which gives me about 1800 cold cranking amps, about the same as 4000 marine cranking amps. My house bank is also automotive Die Hards 7 year warranty and 2 year free replacement. You can replace your batteries every 2 years, they have a very liberal retun policy. I keep fresh batteries on board all the time. And check the price especially on sale. Just make sure you tell Sears they are for a car othewise the warranty is cut in half. I can see no good reason to have marine or deep cycle batteries on board. . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain