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Russell Davignon

Sat, Jul 10, 2010 3:22 PM

I have gone through FOUR Jabsco PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just a
few years. It isn't due to heavy use, it isn't the sensor unit, the motor
just
goes TU after a few years in a dry bilge area and won't even turn with
direct
power. Anyhow, has any one else had this problem with this brand???
Has
anybody used the Harbor Freight $29.99 12V "Marine Utility Pump" ( Looks
like a
Water Guppy knockoff)??? Any better ideas for a pump type/brand???
Thanks Russ Davignon

"I only dressed his wounds, God healed them."
Ambrose
Pare, French Military Surgeon 1510-1590

"Life's tough, pilgrim, and it's
even tougher if you're stupid."
-- John Wayne

I have gone through FOUR Jabsco PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just a few years. It isn't due to heavy use, it isn't the sensor unit, the motor just goes TU after a few years in a dry bilge area and won't even turn with direct power. Anyhow, has any one else had this problem with this brand??? Has anybody used the Harbor Freight $29.99 12V "Marine Utility Pump" ( Looks like a Water Guppy knockoff)??? Any better ideas for a pump type/brand??? Thanks Russ Davignon "I only dressed his wounds, God healed them." Ambrose Pare, French Military Surgeon 1510-1590 "Life's tough, pilgrim, and it's even tougher if you're stupid." -- John Wayne

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Rudy and Jill

Sat, Jul 10, 2010 5:41 PM

I have gone through FOUR Jabsco
PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just a
few years.

Hi Russ

This is just a thought, generated by a recent experience on a boat that I had the pleasure of being asked to resolve. Maybe it'll apply to your problem.

This fella had a pump in his system that kept failing also and he kept replacing it with the same make and model as was originally installed. After the 3rd or 4th replacement, in a fairly short period of time, he started looking for help.

It turned out that the original, thus all of the subsequent pumps, were the wrong size- too small, plus the wiring to the pump was too small. Switched to a larger pump and ran some wire that was better suited to that installation and everything was hunky-dory. He started smelling better too.

Maybe this is a possiblity?

Rudy
Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl

> I have gone through FOUR Jabsco > PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just a > few years. Hi Russ This is just a thought, generated by a recent experience on a boat that I had the pleasure of being asked to resolve. Maybe it'll apply to your problem. This fella had a pump in his system that kept failing also and he kept replacing it with the same make and model as was originally installed. After the 3rd or 4th replacement, in a fairly short period of time, he started looking for help. It turned out that the original, thus all of the subsequent pumps, were the wrong size- too small, plus the wiring to the pump was too small. Switched to a larger pump and ran some wire that was better suited to that installation and everything was hunky-dory. He started smelling better too. Maybe this is a possiblity? Rudy Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl

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Keith

Sun, Jul 11, 2010 2:00 PM

Can't speak to longevity yet, but I just threw out my old shower sump and
replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump. I luckily had shower sump
switches by each shower, so now I just turn it on at the end of my shower
and everything gets pumped out quickly.

Keith

Live your life so that when you die, the preacher will not have to tell lies
at your funeral.

-----Original Message-----

I have gone through FOUR Jabsco PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just
a few years. It isn't due to heavy use, it isn't the sensor unit, the motor
just goes TU after a few years in a dry bilge area and won't even turn with
direct power. Anyhow, has any one else had this problem with this brand???
Has
anybody used the Harbor Freight $29.99 12V "Marine Utility Pump" ( Looks
like a Water Guppy knockoff)??? Any better ideas for a pump type/brand???
Thanks Russ Davignon

Can't speak to longevity yet, but I just threw out my old shower sump and replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump. I luckily had shower sump switches by each shower, so now I just turn it on at the end of my shower and everything gets pumped out quickly. Keith Live your life so that when you die, the preacher will not have to tell lies at your funeral. ________________ -----Original Message----- I have gone through FOUR Jabsco PAR-MAX 4 series shower/sump pumps in just a few years. It isn't due to heavy use, it isn't the sensor unit, the motor just goes TU after a few years in a dry bilge area and won't even turn with direct power. Anyhow, has any one else had this problem with this brand??? Has anybody used the Harbor Freight $29.99 12V "Marine Utility Pump" ( Looks like a Water Guppy knockoff)??? Any better ideas for a pump type/brand??? Thanks Russ Davignon

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Andy Woods

Sun, Jul 11, 2010 9:59 PM

Can't speak to longevity yet,

replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump

I've had my Gulper for almost 10 years. I think the shower sump pump was the
first piece of equipment to fail.

Andy

Andy Woods
Grand Folly
1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
Blades, DE.
grandfolly@hotmail.com

> Can't speak to longevity yet, > replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump I've had my Gulper for almost 10 years. I think the shower sump pump was the first piece of equipment to fail. Andy Andy Woods Grand Folly 1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic Blades, DE. grandfolly@hotmail.com

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Scott Welch

Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:18 AM

I switch to a Jabsco diaphram pump for my grey water sump. 2 years and
no failure. See
http://www.jabsco.com/products/marine-c1/sink-shower-drain-pumps/shower_drain
_pump_50880_series/iid_2095-item2095/index.htm

Scott Welch
Aboard Island Eagle in False Creek, BC

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Andy Woods grandfolly@hotmail.com wrote:

Can't speak to longevity yet,

replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump

I've had my Gulper for almost 10 years. I think the shower sump pump was

the

first piece of equipment to fail.

Andy

Andy Woods
Grand Folly
1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
Blades, DE.
grandfolly@hotmail.com

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I switch to a Jabsco diaphram pump for my grey water sump. 2 years and no failure. See http://www.jabsco.com/products/marine-c1/sink-shower-drain-pumps/shower_drain _pump_50880_series/iid_2095-item2095/index.htm Scott Welch Aboard Island Eagle in False Creek, BC On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Andy Woods <grandfolly@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Can't speak to longevity yet, > >> replaced with a Whale Gulper diaphragm pump > > > > > > I've had my Gulper for almost 10 years. I think the shower sump pump was the > first piece of equipment to fail. > > > > Andy > > > > > > Andy Woods > Grand Folly > 1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic > Blades, DE. > grandfolly@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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rollsdoc@aol.com

Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:30 AM

We've used the Gulpper 220 for 13 years on Rollsdoc. Ours is mounted
horizontally (vertical is recommended) atop our gray water tank with a float
switch in the tank. AC candescent drains into it along with the shower.
Nothing else. The pump lasts about 18 months before needing a new diaphragm.
If I don't see the leak soon enough the whole unit might need replacement.
There is no strainer just a 1/2" PVC pipe about an 1/8" aboe the bottom of the
tank. No clogs ever. Maybe a little bleach once in while for odor control.
This pump is used daily.
Best pump for the job.
Rodger
Rollsdoc
MT49PH

We've used the Gulpper 220 for 13 years on Rollsdoc. Ours is mounted horizontally (vertical is recommended) atop our gray water tank with a float switch in the tank. AC candescent drains into it along with the shower. Nothing else. The pump lasts about 18 months before needing a new diaphragm. If I don't see the leak soon enough the whole unit might need replacement. There is no strainer just a 1/2" PVC pipe about an 1/8" aboe the bottom of the tank. No clogs ever. Maybe a little bleach once in while for odor control. This pump is used daily. Best pump for the job. Rodger Rollsdoc MT49PH

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