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Brooke Clarke

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 5:18 PM

Hi:

I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from
Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but
it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse to be
useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read?

http://www.prc68.com/I/HPE1938.shtml

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.precisionclock.com

Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse to be useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read? http://www.prc68.com/I/HPE1938.shtml -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com

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Scott Newell

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 5:57 PM

At 12:18 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote:

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Hi:

I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files

from

Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView,

but

it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse

to be

useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read?

Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking
HPGL.)

--
newell N5TNL

At 12:18 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote: >); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+newell=cei.net@febo.com RETRY > >Hi: > >I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from >Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but >it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse to be >useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read? Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking HPGL.) -- newell N5TNL

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Rex

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 6:12 PM

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:57:43 -0500, Scott Newell newell@cei.net wrote:

Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking
HPGL.)

Yes, a link to the actual file would be useful.

It surely is HPGL or HP-GL/2, a vector cad format. Many HP printers will
print it directly.

Here are a couple links to information, including some software that
will open the file.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
http://filext.com/file-extension/HPG
Paint Shop Pro seems to be one of the more common ones. I think CAD
programs usually will import it too.

I may have a program that will work, but I think not on this machine.

-Rex, KK6MK

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:57:43 -0500, Scott Newell <newell@cei.net> wrote: >Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking >HPGL.) > Yes, a link to the actual file would be useful. It surely is HPGL or HP-GL/2, a vector cad format. Many HP printers will print it directly. Here are a couple links to information, including some software that will open the file. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL http://filext.com/file-extension/HPG Paint Shop Pro seems to be one of the more common ones. I think CAD programs usually will import it too. I may have a program that will work, but I think not on this machine. -Rex, KK6MK

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Arnold Tibus

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 6:12 PM

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:18:55 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from
Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but
it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse to be
useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read?

Hello Brooke,
Irfanview is in fact very powerful, but as can see in V4.0, it is n o t capable to
read HPGL-files - so it is not capable to convert into another format.
I know only Autocad able to read .hpg, but that does not look very comfortable.

If you have a way to print-out these plot pictures (I suppose they are) so one
could make a sharp hi-q picture with a modern 6 Mp camera and use the
jpg pictures in your page, is that a possibility for you?

regards,
Arnold

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:18:55 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote: >Hi: >I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from >Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but >it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse to be >useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read? Hello Brooke, Irfanview is in fact very powerful, but as can see in V4.0, it is n o t capable to read HPGL-files - so it is not capable to convert into another format. I know only Autocad able to read .hpg, but that does not look very comfortable. If you have a way to print-out these plot pictures (I suppose they are) so one could make a sharp hi-q picture with a modern 6 Mp camera and use the jpg pictures in your page, is that a possibility for you? regards, Arnold

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Brooke Clarke

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 6:51 PM

Hi Scott:

I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg
it's also linked on the E1938 web page under Theory of Operation.

I have Autocad 14, but it did not want to load a .hpg file. Maybe I need a
plug-in? Autocad can drive an HP pen plotter to create .hpg files, but don't
know about loading them.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.precisionclock.com

Scott Newell wrote:

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At 12:18 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote:

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Hi:

I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files

from

Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView,

but

it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse

to be

useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read?

Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking
HPGL.)

Hi Scott: I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg it's also linked on the E1938 web page under Theory of Operation. I have Autocad 14, but it did not want to load a .hpg file. Maybe I need a plug-in? Autocad can drive an HP pen plotter to create .hpg files, but don't know about loading them. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Scott Newell wrote: > ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+brooke=pacific.net@febo.com RETRY > > At 12:18 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote: > >>); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >>Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+newell=cei.net@febo.com RETRY >> >>Hi: >> >>I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files > > from > >>Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, > > but > >>it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are way too coarse > > to be > >>useable. Is there a way to convert it to something that can be read? > > > Do you have a link to the .hpg file in question on the site? (I'm thinking > HPGL.) > >

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Scott Newell

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 7:09 PM

At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote:

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Hi Scott:

I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg

Yep, HPGL.

Want a pdf?

--
newell

At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote: >); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+newell=cei.net@febo.com RETRY > >Hi Scott: > >I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: >http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg Yep, HPGL. Want a pdf? -- newell

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Brooke Clarke

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 7:28 PM

Hi Scott:

Yes. Can it be read? How did you do it?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.precisionclock.com

Scott Newell wrote:

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At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote:

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Hi Scott:

I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg

Yep, HPGL.

Want a pdf?

Hi Scott: Yes. Can it be read? How did you do it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Scott Newell wrote: > ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+brooke=pacific.net@febo.com RETRY > > At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote: > >>); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >>Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+newell=cei.net@febo.com RETRY >> >>Hi Scott: >> >>I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: >>http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg > > > Yep, HPGL. > > Want a pdf? > >

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Rex

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 7:35 PM

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:09:37 -0500, Scott Newell newell@cei.net wrote:

At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi Scott:

I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg

Yep, HPGL.

Want a pdf?

What are you using to convert the file?

I used this free program:
http://hpgs.berlios.de/
and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a
few commands that the program (and my available documentation) didn't
recognize.

-Rex

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:09:37 -0500, Scott Newell <newell@cei.net> wrote: >At 01:51 PM 8/28/2007 , Brooke Clarke wrote: >>Hi Scott: >> >>I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: >>http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg > >Yep, HPGL. > >Want a pdf? What are you using to convert the file? I used this free program: http://hpgs.berlios.de/ and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a few commands that the program (and my available documentation) didn't recognize. -Rex

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Scott Newell

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 7:38 PM

At 02:35 PM 8/28/2007 , Rex wrote:

What are you using to convert the file?

Corel Draw. I didn't receive any errors, but I don't know that the
conversion is accurate.

HPGL is pretty simple--I'll bet it wouldn't be much work to write a
quick-n-dirty HPGL to PS converter.

--
newell N5TNL

At 02:35 PM 8/28/2007 , Rex wrote: > >What are you using to convert the file? Corel Draw. I didn't receive any errors, but I don't know that the conversion is accurate. HPGL is pretty simple--I'll bet it wouldn't be much work to write a quick-n-dirty HPGL to PS converter. -- newell N5TNL

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Rex

Tue, Aug 28, 2007 8:40 PM

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:35:19 -0700, Rex rexa@sonic.net wrote:

I used this free program:
http://hpgs.berlios.de/
and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a
few commands that the program (and my available documentation) didn't
recognize.

-Rex

After Steve's reply I reinstalled an old version of Corel Draw that I
had. The image in Corel seems the same as the png from the free program.

Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs
ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png

Corel opened the hpg ok, but needed some work to get it on the page
size. As I mentioned, I did have to remove a little bit of the hpg file
to get it to work with the hpgs program.

Here are the first few lines of the hpg file

IN;
PW .1875,1;PW .1875,2;PW .1875,3;
PW .1875,4;PW .1875,5;
PW .375,6;PW .1875,7;PW .1875,8;
.Y.@4096;
2:.J.K.I90;
0;
17:.N50;
19:INIP-21184,-16612,21184,16612SC-5296,5296,-4153,4153IW-5296,-4153,364,4114SP1PA-684,1258PD;
...

I changed that to

IN;
PW .1875,1;PW .1875,2;PW .1875,3;
PW .1875,4;PW .1875,5;
PW .375,6;PW .1875,7;PW .1875,8;
INIP-21184,-16612,21184,16612SC-5296,5296,-4153,4153IW-5296,-4153,364,4114SP1PA-684,1258PD;
...

since the program and I both didn't know what the extra lines meant. I
cut them out in a text edtitor and saved the file for input to the hpgs
program. Then it worked ok. I had renamed this new file to test2.hpg and
then I used this command line for the program (in a DOS box)
hpgs -d png_rgp -o test2.png test2.hpg

The png version seems a bit more useful to me than pdf, as many graphics
programs will open the png and allow editing. Fewer programs are
available to manipulate pdf's.

The png is viewable and printable in Irfanview, but looks a little
better when I open it in Ulead Photoimpact, that I had here.

Hope that helps.

-Rex

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:35:19 -0700, Rex <rexa@sonic.net> wrote: >I used this free program: >http://hpgs.berlios.de/ >and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a >few commands that the program (and my available documentation) didn't >recognize. > >-Rex > After Steve's reply I reinstalled an old version of Corel Draw that I had. The image in Corel seems the same as the png from the free program. Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png Corel opened the hpg ok, but needed some work to get it on the page size. As I mentioned, I did have to remove a little bit of the hpg file to get it to work with the hpgs program. Here are the first few lines of the hpg file ____ IN; PW .1875,1;PW .1875,2;PW .1875,3; PW .1875,4;PW .1875,5; PW .375,6;PW .1875,7;PW .1875,8; .Y.@4096; 2:.J.K.I90; 0; 17:.N50; 19:INIP-21184,-16612,21184,16612SC-5296,5296,-4153,4153IW-5296,-4153,364,4114SP1PA-684,1258PD; ... ____ I changed that to ____ IN; PW .1875,1;PW .1875,2;PW .1875,3; PW .1875,4;PW .1875,5; PW .375,6;PW .1875,7;PW .1875,8; INIP-21184,-16612,21184,16612SC-5296,5296,-4153,4153IW-5296,-4153,364,4114SP1PA-684,1258PD; ... ____ since the program and I both didn't know what the extra lines meant. I cut them out in a text edtitor and saved the file for input to the hpgs program. Then it worked ok. I had renamed this new file to test2.hpg and then I used this command line for the program (in a DOS box) hpgs -d png_rgp -o test2.png test2.hpg The png version seems a bit more useful to me than pdf, as many graphics programs will open the png and allow editing. Fewer programs are available to manipulate pdf's. The png is viewable and printable in Irfanview, but looks a little better when I open it in Ulead Photoimpact, that I had here. Hope that helps. -Rex

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