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10 MHz phase detector: 4046 or separate XOR (74HCT1G86)?

AV
Achim Vollhardt
Fri, Nov 5, 2010 8:28 AM

Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase
detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR
intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different
approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86?

73s Achim, DH2VA

Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86? 73s Achim, DH2VA
MD
Magnus Danielson
Fri, Nov 5, 2010 2:02 PM

On 11/05/2010 09:28 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote:

Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase
detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR
intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different
approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86?

Assuming that both signals has good S/N ratio and suitable signal level
and transient shapes. the 74HCT86 should be better than the old CMOS
4046. I would expect a PI-loop to be used.

Better yeat is a SR-flip-flop which would give a working range of +/-
180 degrees rather than +/- 90 degrees. A 74HCT00 could realize one of
those.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 11/05/2010 09:28 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote: > Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase > detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR > intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different > approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86? Assuming that both signals has good S/N ratio and suitable signal level and transient shapes. the 74HCT86 should be better than the old CMOS 4046. I would expect a PI-loop to be used. Better yeat is a SR-flip-flop which would give a working range of +/- 180 degrees rather than +/- 90 degrees. A 74HCT00 could realize one of those. Cheers, Magnus
PR
Pete Rawson
Fri, Nov 5, 2010 6:28 PM

Achim,

The 74LV4046 from Texas Instruments is far superior to any of the earlier variants.
It can accept much wider range of both amplitude & frequency to yield clean, fast
and low jitter output.

Pete Rawson

On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote:

Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86?

73s Achim, DH2VA


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Achim, The 74LV4046 from Texas Instruments is far superior to any of the earlier variants. It can accept much wider range of both amplitude & frequency to yield clean, fast and low jitter output. Pete Rawson On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote: > Any idea on what would be a preferred (stable) device for a 10 MHz phase detector? I know that many use the 4046 (which has amongst others an XOR intetgrated) but what are the exact pros and cons of the different approaches compared to a (example) SOT-23 type 74HCT1G86? > > 73s Achim, DH2VA > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.