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Dennis Bruckel

Mon, Jan 21, 2008 10:11 AM

Bob McLearn asked...

(1) Do you need a radio-operator's license (as some of the Canada based
web sites indicate) or can you "get by" without one?

(2) Where is the best place to get electronic and paper charts of
Canadian waters?

(3) For internet access, can we purchase an air-card which will work in
Canada on a Canadian cell phone network or ISP (similar to what we could
get with Verizon or AT&T in the US)?

Dennis replies....

I know of no one who's ever ben asked to produce a license for their VHF
radio. And, as others have said, there is a 90 day grace period anyway. I
don't worry about it and spend part of most summers in Canada.
See the web site at http://www.chs-shc.gc.ca/pub/en/products/cat/. This
is the Canadian Hydrographic Servies web site and has both electronic and
paper charts. Also, Ess-Kay Marina in Baldwinsville, NY, near the Oswego
Canal may have what you need, but may have a slight price markup added.
Call ahead to reserve what you want there. Phone number is in Waterway
Guide's coverage for the area.
This changes annually with policies of individual carriers. In 2006 we
were able to change Verizon's plan from America's Choice to North American
and had farily good coverage in all of Lake Ontario, the St. Lawrence
River's 1,000 Islands, the Rideau, Ottawa River, and Richeleau Canals WiFi
is likely to be available as well, particularly with an antenna. If you
want to change a cell plan with Verizon, you MUST do this prior to crossing
the border. It can be done with just a phone call to Verizon. Record the
name and phone of the individual with whom you talk to gurarantee you can
return to the same plan when you re-enter the States. They will want you to
sign up for the plan now available, not necessarily what you had when you
left. Some calls well prior to the day you want to cross the border may be
appropriate.

I hope we are able to cross wakes this summer. We will be headed south from
Lake Champlain to the NYS Canals in mid June, then across NYS.

Dennis

Dennis Bruckel, Cruising Editor
Waterway Guide
Albin 27 Sadie B
website www.debruckel.com
cell phone 407 414 0531

Bob McLearn asked... (1) Do you need a radio-operator's license (as some of the Canada based web sites indicate) or can you "get by" without one? (2) Where is the best place to get electronic and paper charts of Canadian waters? (3) For internet access, can we purchase an air-card which will work in Canada on a Canadian cell phone network or ISP (similar to what we could get with Verizon or AT&T in the US)? Dennis replies.... 1. I know of no one who's ever ben asked to produce a license for their VHF radio. And, as others have said, there is a 90 day grace period anyway. I don't worry about it and spend part of most summers in Canada. 2. See the web site at http://www.chs-shc.gc.ca/pub/en/products/cat/. This is the Canadian Hydrographic Servies web site and has both electronic and paper charts. Also, Ess-Kay Marina in Baldwinsville, NY, near the Oswego Canal may have what you need, but may have a slight price markup added. Call ahead to reserve what you want there. Phone number is in Waterway Guide's coverage for the area. 3. This changes annually with policies of individual carriers. In 2006 we were able to change Verizon's plan from America's Choice to North American and had farily good coverage in all of Lake Ontario, the St. Lawrence River's 1,000 Islands, the Rideau, Ottawa River, and Richeleau Canals WiFi is likely to be available as well, particularly with an antenna. If you want to change a cell plan with Verizon, you MUST do this prior to crossing the border. It can be done with just a phone call to Verizon. Record the name and phone of the individual with whom you talk to gurarantee you can return to the same plan when you re-enter the States. They will want you to sign up for the plan now available, not necessarily what you had when you left. Some calls well prior to the day you want to cross the border may be appropriate. I hope we are able to cross wakes this summer. We will be headed south from Lake Champlain to the NYS Canals in mid June, then across NYS. Dennis Dennis Bruckel, Cruising Editor Waterway Guide Albin 27 Sadie B website www.debruckel.com cell phone 407 414 0531

PB

Phil Bolin

Sat, Feb 23, 2008 2:31 PM

I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup
chartplotter.

I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to
see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.
The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able to
see the screen from the bridge.

Thanks.

Phil and Carey Bolin
Apolonia, 43' Vista
804-761-3425
web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup chartplotter. I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop. The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able to see the screen from the bridge. Thanks. Phil and Carey Bolin Apolonia, 43' Vista 804-761-3425 web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

CA

Charles and Pat Culotta

Sat, Feb 23, 2008 3:06 PM

I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup
chartplotter.

I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to
see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.

Thanks.

Phil and Carey Bolin

Phil,
We use Rose Point Coastal Explorer software on a standard Dell Inspiron
laptop. Note this is in
the P/H not on the bridge.
We are most satisfied with the Coastal Explorer software for
navigation.Their tech support is superlative.
The techy ans all questions and has walked me through sev processes, as I
told him, I am his job security!!

CCC
CHARLES C., JR. & PAT CULOTTA
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS
M/V CCRIDER
PATTERSON, LA.
http://geocities.com/charlesculotta

> I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup > chartplotter. > > I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to > see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop. >> Thanks. > > Phil and Carey Bolin > Phil, We use Rose Point Coastal Explorer software on a standard Dell Inspiron laptop. Note this is in the P/H not on the bridge. We are most satisfied with the Coastal Explorer software for navigation.Their tech support is superlative. The techy ans all questions and has walked me through sev processes, as I told him, I am his job security!! CCC CHARLES C., JR. & PAT CULOTTA SUPPORT OUR TROOPS M/V CCRIDER PATTERSON, LA. http://geocities.com/charlesculotta

RY

Ralph Yost (home)

Sat, Feb 23, 2008 4:18 PM

Phil:
I have just completed a market survey of laptops for outdoor use at work.We
will be using them in the cockpit of aircraft. This is a very bright
environment.

I also posted a thread on the Passagemaker message board on the same subject
under the ELECTRONICS category. The primary factor you need to look for is
the amount of NITS able to be emitted by the monitor. NITS is a measure of
the ability of the screen to emit light, which is needed to overcome the
brightness of the surrounding environment.

The problem I found in my market survey is some laptop manuf. tell you their
screen is "outdoor" readable but are unable to give you the # of NITs it
emits. This leaves you with the inability to make a direct and fair
comparison to other products that do provide the NITS specification.
Another very important feature of laptops is the size and feel of the
keyboard to your hands. Some of the new smaller ones may not feel right to
you and allow you to type normally. I found this out the hard way when we
purchased the Panasonic Toughbook PC a few years ago. The keyboard is so
small it aggravates me every time I use it.

For outdoor viewing, I looked seriously at the Fujitsu, Toshiba and Dell
laptops. I concluded by choosing the DELL Latitude D630 ATG. The screen is
14.1 inch 500 nit Outdoor-viewable LCD Panel. (go to the DELL site, select
Small/Medium Business, Business Class Latitude, then Specialty Laptops).
You have to realize that you CANNOT get a good outdoor viewable display in a
CHEAP laptop. The technology for good outdoor viewable is relatively new in
the laptop market space and therefore the price is notable. As with all
laptops, screen selection is a significant drive of total cost.

My Dell Latitude ATG laptop was ordered last week. I havent received it yet
but can share the results with you after I get it.

Note also that DIRECT sunlight is the most difficult to overcome. The screen
has to emit more NITS than the direct sunlight in order for you to see what
is on the screen. In the shade on the fly bridge is substantially easier to
accomplish. I did personally see a Fujitsu TABLET laptop that worked
impressively well in DIRECT sunlight. I didnt choose this one because this
screen only comes in the tablet model that does not include a keyboard. I
couldnt accept that tradeoff. But I have colleagues who use this Fujitsu
tablet in the cockpit of aircraft very well and they like its readability. I
could not believe how well it displayed in direct sunlight when I was in
Oklahoma one summer day. I would have bought a Fujitsu laptop with this
screen if they had made it available on their other models of
laptops/tablets.

Note also that some companies only offer the outdoor readable screens on
TABLET PCs which is a more expensive variation of the laptop. The tablet
allows you to turn and then close the screen, latch it down across the
keyboard and use a special tablet pen to make entries. The screen view is
converted from LANDSCAPE to PORTRAIT. The tablet PC also uses a variant of
the Microsoft operating system called Windows XP Tablet. Its identical to XP
Pro except that it accommodates the pen and rotation of the screen and has
some other applications that accommodate the pen. For the boat environment,
you will never need or use the tablet this way. Its more difficult to enter
text this way and requires the user to learn how to do it properly. Not good
for bouncing around. (I have been using a tablet PC for about 4 years now).

R.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Bolin" pwbolin@earthlink.net

I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup
chartplotter.

I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to
see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.
The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able
to
see the screen from the bridge.

Phil: I have just completed a market survey of laptops for outdoor use at work.We will be using them in the cockpit of aircraft. This is a very bright environment. I also posted a thread on the Passagemaker message board on the same subject under the ELECTRONICS category. The primary factor you need to look for is the amount of NITS able to be emitted by the monitor. NITS is a measure of the ability of the screen to emit light, which is needed to overcome the brightness of the surrounding environment. The problem I found in my market survey is some laptop manuf. tell you their screen is "outdoor" readable but are unable to give you the # of NITs it emits. This leaves you with the inability to make a direct and fair comparison to other products that do provide the NITS specification. Another very important feature of laptops is the size and feel of the keyboard to your hands. Some of the new smaller ones may not feel right to you and allow you to type normally. I found this out the hard way when we purchased the Panasonic Toughbook PC a few years ago. The keyboard is so small it aggravates me every time I use it. For outdoor viewing, I looked seriously at the Fujitsu, Toshiba and Dell laptops. I concluded by choosing the DELL Latitude D630 ATG. The screen is 14.1 inch 500 nit Outdoor-viewable LCD Panel. (go to the DELL site, select Small/Medium Business, Business Class Latitude, then Specialty Laptops). You have to realize that you CANNOT get a good outdoor viewable display in a CHEAP laptop. The technology for good outdoor viewable is relatively new in the laptop market space and therefore the price is notable. As with all laptops, screen selection is a significant drive of total cost. My Dell Latitude ATG laptop was ordered last week. I havent received it yet but can share the results with you after I get it. Note also that DIRECT sunlight is the most difficult to overcome. The screen has to emit more NITS than the direct sunlight in order for you to see what is on the screen. In the shade on the fly bridge is substantially easier to accomplish. I did personally see a Fujitsu TABLET laptop that worked impressively well in DIRECT sunlight. I didnt choose this one because this screen only comes in the tablet model that does not include a keyboard. I couldnt accept that tradeoff. But I have colleagues who use this Fujitsu tablet in the cockpit of aircraft very well and they like its readability. I could not believe how well it displayed in direct sunlight when I was in Oklahoma one summer day. I would have bought a Fujitsu laptop with this screen if they had made it available on their other models of laptops/tablets. Note also that some companies only offer the outdoor readable screens on TABLET PCs which is a more expensive variation of the laptop. The tablet allows you to turn and then close the screen, latch it down across the keyboard and use a special tablet pen to make entries. The screen view is converted from LANDSCAPE to PORTRAIT. The tablet PC also uses a variant of the Microsoft operating system called Windows XP Tablet. Its identical to XP Pro except that it accommodates the pen and rotation of the screen and has some other applications that accommodate the pen. For the boat environment, you will never need or use the tablet this way. Its more difficult to enter text this way and requires the user to learn how to do it properly. Not good for bouncing around. (I have been using a tablet PC for about 4 years now). R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bolin" <pwbolin@earthlink.net> > I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software to the boat as a backup > chartplotter. > > I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to > see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop. > The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able > to > see the screen from the bridge.

DG

Dick Glover

Sat, Feb 23, 2008 9:41 PM

To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: GL: Computer as Chart Plotter>
"I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to>

see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.>
The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able to>
see the screen from the bridge. "

We used 2 different HP laptops for out Loop cruise in 2005 and continue to use
them. One has a 15.4" mat finish screen and the other is 14" smooth finish.
We continue to use them and found both to be acceptable on the flybridge or
lower helm station. When there is reflection, we just angle the screen down
and visibility is fine. We have never bothered wity na sunshade but a simple
cardboard screen might be helpful at times.

We use Fugawi and Maptech Offshore Navigator (came free on our NDI Canadian
digital charts) and slightly prefer Maptech. The Maptech version that was
being included with their chartbooks is a teaser version we did not like. The
Managing the Waterway people sell a CD/DVD? with over 3,000 North American
charts for $37 that we found to be outstanding.

Hope this helps.
Dick Glover
GB 42 STARSONG
Savannah, GA

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> To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: GL: Computer as Chart Plotter> > "I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to> see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.> The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able to> see the screen from the bridge. " We used 2 different HP laptops for out Loop cruise in 2005 and continue to use them. One has a 15.4" mat finish screen and the other is 14" smooth finish. We continue to use them and found both to be acceptable on the flybridge or lower helm station. When there is reflection, we just angle the screen down and visibility is fine. We have never bothered wity na sunshade but a simple cardboard screen might be helpful at times. We use Fugawi and Maptech Offshore Navigator (came free on our NDI Canadian digital charts) and slightly prefer Maptech. The Maptech version that was being included with their chartbooks is a teaser version we did not like. The Managing the Waterway people sell a CD/DVD? with over 3,000 North American charts for $37 that we found to be outstanding. Hope this helps. Dick Glover GB 42 STARSONG Savannah, GA >> _______________________________________________> http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop> > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

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Greg Schoenberg

Sat, Feb 23, 2008 10:09 PM

We use an older $200 indestructible Thinkpad with an older Nobeltech version
and free charts. Bought all off e-bay. Laptop has been dropped, sprayed with
salt water, and now used by my 11 year old daughter when we're not on the
boat. She's still ticking, although the batter lasts only an hour or two.

Obviously, this laptop is secondary to on-board chartplotter. I've owned both
Garmin and Standard Horizon, buying both used off E-bay. I prefer the
former.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Glover
To: pwbolin@earthlink.net ; great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Computer as Chart Plotter

To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: GL: Computer as Chart

Plotter>

"I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy

to>
see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.>
The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able
to>
see the screen from the bridge. "

We used 2 different HP laptops for out Loop cruise in 2005 and continue to
use
them. One has a 15.4" mat finish screen and the other is 14" smooth
finish.
We continue to use them and found both to be acceptable on the flybridge or
lower helm station. When there is reflection, we just angle the screen
down
and visibility is fine. We have never bothered wity na sunshade but a
simple
cardboard screen might be helpful at times.

We use Fugawi and Maptech Offshore Navigator (came free on our NDI Canadian
digital charts) and slightly prefer Maptech. The Maptech version that was
being included with their chartbooks is a teaser version we did not like.
The
Managing the Waterway people sell a CD/DVD? with over 3,000 North American
charts for $37 that we found to be outstanding.

Hope this helps.
Dick Glover
GB 42 STARSONG
Savannah, GA

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We use an older $200 indestructible Thinkpad with an older Nobeltech version and free charts. Bought all off e-bay. Laptop has been dropped, sprayed with salt water, and now used by my 11 year old daughter when we're not on the boat. She's still ticking, although the batter lasts only an hour or two. Obviously, this laptop is secondary to on-board chartplotter. I've owned both Garmin and Standard Horizon, buying both used off E-bay. I prefer the former. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Glover To: pwbolin@earthlink.net ; great-loop@lists.samurai.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: Re: GL: Computer as Chart Plotter > To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: GL: Computer as Chart Plotter> > "I would appreciate any recommendations on inexpensive laptops with easy to> see screens; and any comments on the best software to use with the laptop.> The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand the need to be able to> see the screen from the bridge. " We used 2 different HP laptops for out Loop cruise in 2005 and continue to use them. One has a 15.4" mat finish screen and the other is 14" smooth finish. We continue to use them and found both to be acceptable on the flybridge or lower helm station. When there is reflection, we just angle the screen down and visibility is fine. We have never bothered wity na sunshade but a simple cardboard screen might be helpful at times. We use Fugawi and Maptech Offshore Navigator (came free on our NDI Canadian digital charts) and slightly prefer Maptech. The Maptech version that was being included with their chartbooks is a teaser version we did not like. The Managing the Waterway people sell a CD/DVD? with over 3,000 North American charts for $37 that we found to be outstanding. Hope this helps. Dick Glover GB 42 STARSONG Savannah, GA >> _______________________________________________> http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop> > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop

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Luther

Sun, Feb 24, 2008 1:09 AM

Phil & All,

We added maptech to a low end laptop from Office Depot
with an external hard drive for when the computer
should give out. Only issues I have is the glare while
navigating at night.

Luther & Judy Carrier
1976' Thompson - Suite 44
St Petersburg, Fl

--- Phil Bolin pwbolin@earthlink.net wrote:

I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software
to the boat as a backup
chartplotter.

I would appreciate any recommendations on
inexpensive laptops with easy to
see screens; and any comments on the best software
to use with the laptop.
The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand
the need to be able to
see the screen from the bridge.

Thanks.

Phil and Carey Bolin
Apolonia, 43' Vista
804-761-3425
web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

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Phil & All, We added maptech to a low end laptop from Office Depot with an external hard drive for when the computer should give out. Only issues I have is the glare while navigating at night. Luther & Judy Carrier 1976' Thompson - Suite 44 St Petersburg, Fl --- Phil Bolin <pwbolin@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'm planning to add a laptop with maptech software > to the boat as a backup > chartplotter. > > I would appreciate any recommendations on > inexpensive laptops with easy to > see screens; and any comments on the best software > to use with the laptop. > The salesmen I've talked to don't seem to understand > the need to be able to > see the screen from the bridge. > > Thanks. > > Phil and Carey Bolin > Apolonia, 43' Vista > 804-761-3425 > web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin > email: pwbolin@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options > (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

RY

Ralph Yost (home)

Sun, Feb 24, 2008 1:14 AM

Night time use of the laptop for navigation requires you to know how to
reduce the illimunation of the screen. Once you get it down to a much dimmer
setting, you will like it.
R.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luther" captaincarrier@yahoo.com

We added maptech to a low end laptop from Office Depot
with an external hard drive for when the computer
should give out. Only issues I have is the glare while
navigating at night.

Night time use of the laptop for navigation requires you to know how to reduce the illimunation of the screen. Once you get it down to a much dimmer setting, you will like it. R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luther" <captaincarrier@yahoo.com> > We added maptech to a low end laptop from Office Depot > with an external hard drive for when the computer > should give out. Only issues I have is the glare while > navigating at night.

PB

Phil Bolin

Mon, Feb 25, 2008 11:41 PM

Someone passed a web site recently where you could purchase a GPS that would
plug into a laptop with UBS for aprrox $79, to use with chart plotters. I
lost the web site. Could you please resend to me.

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin

Apolonia, 43' Vista

804-761-3425

web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin

email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

Someone passed a web site recently where you could purchase a GPS that would plug into a laptop with UBS for aprrox $79, to use with chart plotters. I lost the web site. Could you please resend to me. Sincerely, Phil and Carey Bolin Apolonia, 43' Vista 804-761-3425 web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin> http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

KB

Ken Bloomfield

Tue, Feb 26, 2008 4:33 PM

How does $36 work for you? Go here:
http://tinyurl.com/3e5equ
You will have to copy and past this into your browser.

Also, if you go to http://www.sping.com/seaclear/sc_setup.exe
you will find some very nice totally free SeaClear software that works very
nicely.

Let me know if any problems.

Ken Bloomfield
MTOA# 2062
AGLCA# 3529
M/V Tellico Lady, 50' MT-Walkaround

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Bolin" pwbolin@earthlink.net
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: GL: GPS for Laptop

Someone passed a web site recently where you could purchase a GPS that
would
plug into a laptop with UBS for aprrox $79, to use with chart plotters. I
lost the web site. Could you please resend to me.

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin

Apolonia, 43' Vista

804-761-3425

web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin

email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

How does $36 work for you? Go here: http://tinyurl.com/3e5equ You will have to copy and past this into your browser. Also, if you go to http://www.sping.com/seaclear/sc_setup.exe you will find some very nice totally free SeaClear software that works very nicely. Let me know if any problems. Ken Bloomfield MTOA# 2062 AGLCA# 3529 M/V Tellico Lady, 50' MT-Walkaround ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bolin" <pwbolin@earthlink.net> To: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: GL: GPS for Laptop > Someone passed a web site recently where you could purchase a GPS that > would > plug into a laptop with UBS for aprrox $79, to use with chart plotters. I > lost the web site. Could you please resend to me. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Phil and Carey Bolin > > Apolonia, 43' Vista > > 804-761-3425 > > web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin > > email: pwbolin@earthlink.net

PB

Phil Bolin

Wed, Mar 12, 2008 6:14 PM

Boaters:

I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid little
attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech
lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA got
lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software.

Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages,
beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the
"cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop?

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin

Apolonia, 43' Vista

804-761-3425

web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin

email: mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net pwbolin@earthlink.net

Boaters: I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid little attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA got lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software. Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages, beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the "cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop? Sincerely, Phil and Carey Bolin Apolonia, 43' Vista 804-761-3425 web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin> http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin email: <mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net> pwbolin@earthlink.net

JH

John Harris

Wed, Mar 12, 2008 6:35 PM

The ENC and IENC vector charts that are provided by NOAA and the Army Corp
of Engineers respectively no longer work with Nobeltec. They stopped
support with version 8.1 and as far as I know have no plans to fix it.

Try RosePoints Coastal Explorer for a software package that supports all the
ENC charts and Maptech also. A free trial is available on the Rosepoint web
site, so you can try it before you make a purchase.

(I have no connection with either)

Regards, John Harris
CHB 35
Sea Saga

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The ENC and IENC vector charts that are provided by NOAA and the Army Corp of Engineers respectively no longer work with Nobeltec. They stopped support with version 8.1 and as far as I know have no plans to fix it. Try RosePoints Coastal Explorer for a software package that supports all the ENC charts and Maptech also. A free trial is available on the Rosepoint web site, so you can try it before you make a purchase. (I have no connection with either) Regards, John Harris CHB 35 Sea Saga -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 62 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

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Charles and Pat Culotta

Wed, Mar 12, 2008 8:34 PM

Try RosePoints Coastal Explorer for a software package that supports all
the

ENC charts and Maptech also. A free trial is available on the Rosepoint
web
site, so you can try it before you make a purchase.

We use Rose Point and are fully satisfied with it.
Their man in tech support is second to none!!!!

CCC
CHARLES C., JR. & PAT CULOTTA
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS
M/V CCRIDER
PATTERSON, LA.
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>> Try RosePoints Coastal Explorer for a software package that supports all >> the > ENC charts and Maptech also. A free trial is available on the Rosepoint > web > site, so you can try it before you make a purchase. We use Rose Point and are fully satisfied with it. Their man in tech support is second to none!!!! CCC CHARLES C., JR. & PAT CULOTTA SUPPORT OUR TROOPS M/V CCRIDER PATTERSON, LA. http://geocities.com/charlesculotta

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Al Thomason

Wed, Mar 12, 2008 9:54 PM

You should be able to download free charts compatable with Maptech (not sure
about Nobeltec). Note that there are 'two' types of charts Vector ENC, and
older Raster charts. You might have just down loaded the wrong type. You
can download each from NOAA here:
ENC: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/MCD/enc/index.htm
Raster: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm

Or, if you just want the raster charts, Maptech has a web site that presents
a bit better format: http://freeboatingcharts.com/ you can download them if
you have a high speed connection; they also offer to sell you CDs mailed to
you.

And there is also a free program Sea Clear that is rather useful as well.
It is fully compatable with the Raster charts:
http://www.sping.com/seaclear/

Good luck!
-al-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Bolin" pwbolin@earthlink.net
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software

Boaters:

I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid
little
attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech
lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA
got
lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software.

Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages,
beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the
"cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop?

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin

Apolonia, 43' Vista

804-761-3425

web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin

email: mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net pwbolin@earthlink.net

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You should be able to download free charts compatable with Maptech (not sure about Nobeltec). Note that there are 'two' types of charts Vector ENC, and older Raster charts. You might have just down loaded the wrong type. You can download each from NOAA here: ENC: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/MCD/enc/index.htm Raster: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm Or, if you just want the raster charts, Maptech has a web site that presents a bit better format: http://freeboatingcharts.com/ you can download them if you have a high speed connection; they also offer to sell you CDs mailed to you. And there is also a free program Sea Clear that is rather useful as well. It is fully compatable with the Raster charts: http://www.sping.com/seaclear/ Good luck! -al- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bolin" <pwbolin@earthlink.net> To: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software > Boaters: > > > > I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid > little > attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech > lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA > got > lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software. > > > > Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages, > beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the > "cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Phil and Carey Bolin > > Apolonia, 43' Vista > > 804-761-3425 > > web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin > > email: <mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net> pwbolin@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop

BD

Bob DeGroot

Wed, Mar 12, 2008 10:09 PM

And don't forget the free chart plotter software (www.seaclear.net). Works
just like the $300 software. Add a hockey puck GPS, plug it in your laptop
and you're good to go.

You can get everything (including GPS puck and charts on DVD) for $80 from
http://www.midbaymarine.com/bu-353.html (we did).

Or just go out and buy the GPS and download the chart plotter software and
charts free right now.

It's a great way to have an inexpensive primary or backup chart plotter.

I'm looking at the $150 - $200 monitor (bright screen display) as a back up
as well for the fly bridge. Radio Shack sells a 350 watt inverter for about
$40 and cigarette lighter connection to run it on.

Best,
Bob

Bob DeGroot, D.C.H.
M/V Spirit Dancer
DeFever 49 CPMY
Lakewood Yacht Club - Seabrook, Texas
MTOA # 1896 - DeFever Cruisers # 857
Great Loop Assoc. (AGLCA) # 427
Texas Mariners Cruisers Association
www.BoaterSites.com
Cell (713) 876-8787

-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Al Thomason
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:55 PM
To: pwbolin@earthlink.net; great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software

You should be able to download free charts compatable with Maptech (not sure
about Nobeltec). Note that there are 'two' types of charts Vector ENC, and
older Raster charts. You might have just down loaded the wrong type. You
can download each from NOAA here:
ENC: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/MCD/enc/index.htm
Raster: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm

Or, if you just want the raster charts, Maptech has a web site that presents
a bit better format: http://freeboatingcharts.com/ you can download them if
you have a high speed connection; they also offer to sell you CDs mailed to
you.

And there is also a free program Sea Clear that is rather useful as well.
It is fully compatable with the Raster charts:
http://www.sping.com/seaclear/

Good luck!
-al-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Bolin" pwbolin@earthlink.net
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software

Boaters:

I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid
little
attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech
lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA
got
lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software.

Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages,
beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the
"cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop?

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin

Apolonia, 43' Vista

804-761-3425

web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin

email: mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net pwbolin@earthlink.net

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And don't forget the free chart plotter software (www.seaclear.net). Works just like the $300 software. Add a hockey puck GPS, plug it in your laptop and you're good to go. You can get everything (including GPS puck and charts on DVD) for $80 from http://www.midbaymarine.com/bu-353.html (we did). Or just go out and buy the GPS and download the chart plotter software and charts free right now. It's a great way to have an inexpensive primary or backup chart plotter. I'm looking at the $150 - $200 monitor (bright screen display) as a back up as well for the fly bridge. Radio Shack sells a 350 watt inverter for about $40 and cigarette lighter connection to run it on. Best, Bob Bob DeGroot, D.C.H. M/V Spirit Dancer DeFever 49 CPMY Lakewood Yacht Club - Seabrook, Texas MTOA # 1896 - DeFever Cruisers # 857 Great Loop Assoc. (AGLCA) # 427 Texas Mariners Cruisers Association www.BoaterSites.com Cell (713) 876-8787 -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Al Thomason Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:55 PM To: pwbolin@earthlink.net; great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software You should be able to download free charts compatable with Maptech (not sure about Nobeltec). Note that there are 'two' types of charts Vector ENC, and older Raster charts. You might have just down loaded the wrong type. You can download each from NOAA here: ENC: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/MCD/enc/index.htm Raster: http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm Or, if you just want the raster charts, Maptech has a web site that presents a bit better format: http://freeboatingcharts.com/ you can download them if you have a high speed connection; they also offer to sell you CDs mailed to you. And there is also a free program Sea Clear that is rather useful as well. It is fully compatable with the Raster charts: http://www.sping.com/seaclear/ Good luck! -al- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bolin" <pwbolin@earthlink.net> To: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: GL: Electronic Charts for Nobeltec and Maptech software > Boaters: > > > > I've read lot about electronic charts for use on a computer, but paid > little > attention until I purchased the boat laptop and got Nobeltec and Maptech > lite software. Now I'm searching for electronic charts. Going to NOAA > got > lots of charts for free but they are not recognized by the software. > > > > Is it the case I must purchase charts to use in these software packages, > beyond what I have now or is there a place to get electronic charts on the > "cheap" to use with these packages on my laptop? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Phil and Carey Bolin > > Apolonia, 43' Vista > > 804-761-3425 > > web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin> > http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin > > email: <mailto:pwbolin@earthlink.net> pwbolin@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop

BH

Brent Hodges

Thu, Mar 13, 2008 1:19 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob DeGroot" bob@saleshelp.com

I'm looking at the $150 - $200 monitor (bright screen display) as a back
up
as well for the fly bridge.

Where are you finding a display like that? I'm also looking for one and
haven't had much luck.

Brent Hodges
Friendship
43 Albin
currently lying at Horn Island, in Mississippi Sound

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob DeGroot" <bob@saleshelp.com> > I'm looking at the $150 - $200 monitor (bright screen display) as a back > up > as well for the fly bridge. Where are you finding a display like that? I'm also looking for one and haven't had much luck. Brent Hodges Friendship 43 Albin currently lying at Horn Island, in Mississippi Sound

PL

Phil Little

Thu, Mar 13, 2008 1:31 AM

Likewise! Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks

Phil little

Brent Hodges vbhodges@gmail.com wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob DeGroot"

I'm looking at the $150 - $200 monitor (bright screen display) as a back
up
as well for the fly bridge.

Where are you finding a display like that? I'm also looking for one and
haven't had much luck.

Brent Hodges
Friendship
43 Albin
currently lying at Horn Island, in Mississippi Sound

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