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PRyker@Affinity.com

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 1:27 AM

We are slowly putting together a tool box for the boat. We recently just
had the stuffing boxes re-packed and I was not present when the work was
completed so I did not get a chance to see how the yard was able to loosen
and tighten the stuffing box in such tight quarters nor did I get a chance
to see what tool they used.

I have searched through previous posts and have seen a few mentions of
crescent wrenches from Sears and pipe wrenches. I do not believe there is
enough room for them and I wonder if they are any other "magic" tools out
there. It also appears that there are "gouges" in the nuts that someone has
used a screwdriver on to tighten and loosen.

Any suggestions on tools??

Phil

We are slowly putting together a tool box for the boat. We recently just had the stuffing boxes re-packed and I was not present when the work was completed so I did not get a chance to see how the yard was able to loosen and tighten the stuffing box in such tight quarters nor did I get a chance to see what tool they used. I have searched through previous posts and have seen a few mentions of crescent wrenches from Sears and pipe wrenches. I do not believe there is enough room for them and I wonder if they are any other "magic" tools out there. It also appears that there are "gouges" in the nuts that someone has used a screwdriver on to tighten and loosen. Any suggestions on tools?? Phil

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tonymarshall@hargray.com

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 1:48 AM

Yard mechanics who haven't got working room for spanners often take a hammer and
cold chisel or crowbar, both to back off the jam nut, and to complete the
adjustment. It seems to work!

Tony Marshall
K39 "Growler"
Lying Hilton Head Island, SC

| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
| [mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Phil Ryker
| Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:27 PM
| To: 'trawler-world-listsamuraicom'
| Subject: TWL: Tools for tightening the stuffing box
|
| It also appears that there are "gouges" in the nuts that someone has
| used a screwdriver on to tighten and loosen.
|
| Any suggestions on tools??
|
| Phil

Yard mechanics who haven't got working room for spanners often take a hammer and cold chisel or crowbar, both to back off the jam nut, and to complete the adjustment. It seems to work! _____________________________ Tony Marshall K39 "Growler" Lying Hilton Head Island, SC | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com | [mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Phil Ryker | Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:27 PM | To: 'trawler-world-listsamuraicom' | Subject: TWL: Tools for tightening the stuffing box | | It also appears that there are "gouges" in the nuts that someone has | used a screwdriver on to tighten and loosen. | | Any suggestions on tools?? | | Phil

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rcrogers6@home.com

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 6:08 AM

Phil,

A yard mechanic suggested that I get an "undersink wrench" at a hardware
store. Essentially, this turned-out to be a crescent wrench with a long
straight mouth. Home Debit has them for a small sum. They lack leverage as
their handles are relatively short - but so is access on many non-trawler
vessels. Many yardworkers in Annapolis use them and they are cheap enough to
get spares if you are going far from a hardware/plumbing supply store.

If there is swinging room aboard, Northern Tools (email order) sells a 3
piece set of very large steel crescent wrenches for ~ $34 US dollars. They
are well-made and plated in China. Aluminum crescents and stilsons are also
available. Harbor freight probably has similar, nut I'm familiar with
Northern Tools. They have retail stores in Florida and Newport News, VA as
well as (see) http://www.northernstores.com/.

Watch out in the stores as tool nuts can come out paupers - I bought a 1/2
ton jaws of life (hydraulic, wedge shaped, plates that separate stuff like
the deck of my house.)

Toolely yours,
Ron Rogers
Annapolis, MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Marshall" tonymarshall@hargray.com

Yard mechanics who haven't got working room for spanners often take a

hammer and

cold chisel or crowbar, both to back off the jam nut, and to complete the
adjustment. It seems to work!

Phil, A yard mechanic suggested that I get an "undersink wrench" at a hardware store. Essentially, this turned-out to be a crescent wrench with a long straight mouth. Home Debit has them for a small sum. They lack leverage as their handles are relatively short - but so is access on many non-trawler vessels. Many yardworkers in Annapolis use them and they are cheap enough to get spares if you are going far from a hardware/plumbing supply store. If there is swinging room aboard, Northern Tools (email order) sells a 3 piece set of very large steel crescent wrenches for ~ $34 US dollars. They are well-made and plated in China. Aluminum crescents and stilsons are also available. Harbor freight probably has similar, nut I'm familiar with Northern Tools. They have retail stores in Florida and Newport News, VA as well as (see) http://www.northernstores.com/. Watch out in the stores as tool nuts can come out paupers - I bought a 1/2 ton jaws of life (hydraulic, wedge shaped, plates that separate stuff like the deck of my house.) Toolely yours, Ron Rogers Annapolis, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Marshall" <tonymarshall@hargray.com> > Yard mechanics who haven't got working room for spanners often take a hammer and > cold chisel or crowbar, both to back off the jam nut, and to complete the > adjustment. It seems to work!

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scaramouche@tvo.org

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 12:40 PM

PRyker@affinity.com writes:

I did not get a chance to see how the yard was able to loosen
and tighten the stuffing box in such tight quarters nor did I get a
chance
to see what tool they used.

Most of all you need a 5 ft or less contortion artist with very long
arms and hands like vicegrips. My 235 lbs, 6ft body doesn't even fit
into the lazaret from where the adjustment has to be made. Been
thinking of cuttting an access hole into the cockpit floor (or trade
my sailboat for a trawler - very tempting)

George of Scaramouche

PRyker@affinity.com writes: >I did not get a chance to see how the yard was able to loosen >and tighten the stuffing box in such tight quarters nor did I get a >chance >to see what tool they used. Most of all you need a 5 ft or less contortion artist with very long arms and hands like vicegrips. My 235 lbs, 6ft body doesn't even fit into the lazaret from where the adjustment has to be made. Been thinking of cuttting an access hole into the cockpit floor (or trade my sailboat for a trawler - very tempting) George of Scaramouche

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cculotta@iamerica.net

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 2:11 PM

Point of order guys:

CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool.
They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage.
Several cases in point :
THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle.
ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair.
KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue.
FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate.
The list goes on.....

CCC

Charles C. Culotta Jr.
Patterson, LA
95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW

Point of order guys: CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool. They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage. Several cases in point : THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle. ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair. KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue. FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate. The list goes on..... CCC Charles C. Culotta Jr. Patterson, LA 95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW

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jschroeder1@uswest.net

Sun, Jun 24, 2001 4:42 PM

Point of order.

After a certain point a term becomes generic and is commonly used to refer
to a class of items:

Eg.

Thermos bottle - any vacuum bottle.
Kleenex - Any tissue
Formica - any plastic laminate
Escalator - any moving stairwell
Coke - any type of colored sugar water
Crapper - any type of sanitary facility

Others generic terms include: Nylon, Rayon, Spandex, trampoline, kerosene,
cellophane. The list is long and getting longer. Vice Grip and Crescent
wrench are teetering on the brink.

Jerry Schroeder
M/V Surprise
21' Ranger R21
Ballard WA

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
[mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Charles
Culotta
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 7:11 AM
To: Ron Rogers
Cc: Trawler World List
Subject: TWL: Re:Tools for tightening the stuffing box

Point of order guys:

CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool.
They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage.
Several cases in point :
THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle.
ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair.
KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue.
FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate.
The list goes on.....

CCC

Charles C. Culotta Jr.
Patterson, LA
95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW

Point of order. After a certain point a term becomes generic and is commonly used to refer to a class of items: Eg. Thermos bottle - any vacuum bottle. Kleenex - Any tissue Formica - any plastic laminate Escalator - any moving stairwell Coke - any type of colored sugar water Crapper - any type of sanitary facility Others generic terms include: Nylon, Rayon, Spandex, trampoline, kerosene, cellophane. The list is long and getting longer. Vice Grip and Crescent wrench are teetering on the brink. Jerry Schroeder M/V Surprise 21' Ranger R21 Ballard WA > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com > [mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Charles > Culotta > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 7:11 AM > To: Ron Rogers > Cc: Trawler World List > Subject: TWL: Re:Tools for tightening the stuffing box > > > Point of order guys: > > CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool. > They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage. > Several cases in point : > THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle. > ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair. > KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue. > FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate. > The list goes on..... > > CCC > > Charles C. Culotta Jr. > Patterson, LA > 95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW > > >

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ftimpano@infi.net

Mon, Jun 25, 2001 1:19 AM

I think vice grip is up for grabs. Vise Grip is the better know brand.

At 09:11 AM 6/24/01 -0500, Charles Culotta wrote:

Point of order guys:

CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool.
They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage.
Several cases in point :
THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle.
ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair.
KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue.
FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate.
The list goes on.....

CCC

Charles C. Culotta Jr.
Patterson, LA
95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW

I think vice grip is up for grabs. Vise Grip is the better know brand. At 09:11 AM 6/24/01 -0500, Charles Culotta wrote: >Point of order guys: > >CRESCENT and VICE GRIP are brand names of a type of tool. >They do not wish to loose their names due to generic usage. >Several cases in point : >THERMOS this is a brand of vacuum bottle. >ESCALATOR is a brand of moving stair. >KLEENEX is a brand of facial tissue. >FORMICA is a brand of plastic laminate. >The list goes on..... > >CCC > >Charles C. Culotta Jr. >Patterson, LA >95 Miles West of New Orleans on ICW > > >

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