Please do take note of the concern that Sarah is mentioning as well as Christina. We only have to look to CSP experienced trooper drowning Woodbury from flood waters. Also if you DO get in trouble in that water, you may not drown, but you will put first responders in harm's way unnecessarily. Sandi Jones > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the > conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks. While I am > impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your > success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown. Waist- or > chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. > This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if > your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking > soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water > -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. > I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still > just too dangerous. I don't want to die trying to see ducks. > > > > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a > thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? > > > > Sarah Faulkner > > Collinsville -----Original Message----- From: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org <ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 1:52 PM To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Subject: CTBirds Digest, Vol 5294, Issue 2 CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. 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Re: Whistling ducks (Christina Cole) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:10:55 -0400 From: Bill Asteriades <bill.asteriades@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Rocky Hill Meadows - BCNH and LBBG To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Message-ID: <CA+6NEuCwuoejCFRV_osZ0xihhyCiJ33dU0g8nDAHycOKqtcjSw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" In addition to the Black-Bellied Whistling Ducks, there was a Black-crowned Night Heron seen in flight heading towards Wethersfield Marsh, and Richard Prum and I saw a Lesser Black-backed Gull with 7 Herring Gulls drifting south (unusual inland). Bill Asteriades South Glastonbury ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:21:15 -0400 From: Joanne Fasciolo <jo.fasciolo@icloud.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Dickcissel Norwalk Esplanade To: Ctbird List <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <D8025399-E2F6-41E7-8B34-D3B2DFFA048B@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dickcissel seen along fence line and trees at the beginning of the path. Jo Fasciolo Norwalk Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:28:26 -0400 From: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: Whistling ducks To: Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <CAPKjHbP61wvihWHLRhxpXiRzc9bDTjjzb_kTQeSBQOSDkJEMQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think adding more detail when reporting birds would be great all around. I just started birding last year and although I brought waders yesterday to get through the water, I didn't realize how long of a hike it was after the water, and would have probably changed into something after getting through the flooded area had I known (long distance in waders on a hot day with no shade is not fun). Nonetheless, I got to see the BBWD with great shots, so I can't complain, but i second the idea of adding more detail to these locations, especially for newer birders who may be unfamiliar with the regular spots. Julian Ventres On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 11:42 AM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: > I should probably note to that… I’m used to doing this sort of thing. > I do everything alone. Southern girl that swims with alligators in the > cape fear. Shark diving. Rattlesnake rangling nutter! Doesn’t mean > it’s not dangerous. It’s dangerous! There is dual current on the Goff Road side. > Annnnd that’s why I posted it for everyone else to be well informed > instead of just reading “yes the whistling ducks are there. “ > > On that note I think we on the list are not only different genders, > shapes and sizes but also different variants of strength and health > who maybe do better in hot or cold weather. > Lol > > A friend texted me yesterday she’s 4 foot 11. The response was > definitely do not go Goff Road > > Maybe we should start rating these hikes by difficulty on a 1 to 5 scale. > It would definitely help people that are traveling or just not > familiar wIth CT’s areas in general. > > I’d give this one with the floods a 5 ! on a hot day with walking, a 3 > bring water! > > Christina Cole > > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the > conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks. While I am > impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your > success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown. Waist- or > chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. > This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if > your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking > soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water > -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. > I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still > just too dangerous. I don't want to die trying to see ducks. > > > > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a > thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? > > > > Sarah Faulkner > > Collinsville > >> On 09/03/2021 8:50 PM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Yes from the Goff Road side it is! Unfortunately can’t send pics > >> here > but trust me waist deep off that road. Use the ferry road side! > >> > >> Christina Cole > >> > >>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Michael Richardson > >>>> <msr042377@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I would like to take a trip up to see them tomorrow. Is anyone > >>> able > to help > >>> me know where to park and where the birds are located. I'm not > >>> familiar with the area. Maybe you can drop some pins on Google maps? > >>> > >>> Also, I did see the messages that it's currently flooded and about > >>> a 2 > mile > >>> walk. I will plan for that. > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> Michael Richardson > >>> Norwalk, CT > >>> > >>> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > >>> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > >>> For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > >> > >> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > >> Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > >> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > >> For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > > Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:08:50 -0400 From: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <CADCJV0ZPwMQc7gQYRua5vwJX4o6_LvVkU24sz-RM__3dCC83YA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. I would have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my photos! Also, How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird puts me at 193 lifetime total. Thank you, Michael Richardson Norwalk, CT ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:11:52 -0400 From: Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <A072DCDF-E514-4D5B-91CD-65297D0CCEDB@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Third record in CT. There was 5 in Litchfield earlier this year and the first record was a single in I think 2018 in essex. Monica Nichols Madison Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. I > would have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my photos! > > Also, > > How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird > puts me at 193 lifetime total. > > Thank you, > > Michael Richardson > Norwalk, CT > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:18:04 -0400 From: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> Cc: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com>, CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <CAPKjHbMHDmvfoooLEb=7uefLmcpOzsFq-2gyUCgGc=inBRrLrw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It's interesting, as from my understanding the BBWD is primarily considered non-migratory aside from local movements. I have seen some notes that in the northern parts of their range (Texas, Florida), they will migrate south in the winter, but CT seems to be quite an overshoot for a bird that isn't typically regarded as migratory. On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 1:12 PM Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> wrote: > Third record in CT. There was 5 in Litchfield earlier this year and > the first record was a single in I think 2018 in essex. > > Monica Nichols > Madison > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. > > I > would > > have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my > photos! > > > > Also, > > > > How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird > > puts > me > > at 193 lifetime total. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Michael Richardson > > Norwalk, CT > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > > Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:51:57 -0400 From: Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: Whistling ducks To: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <15A0F75B-57F0-400E-BBD7-D5FD969EF157@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Julian! I was the one on the bike going “omg you are so smart for waders!” I certainly didn’t think about them being hot. I should have offered you guys water! The other reason those waders are smart is that flooding and run off is from what …? The CT River and through farm land? Who knows what waste and cow dookie fertilizer we are walking through? So if me and my trashy soaked joggers get a flesh eating virus in the next 5 days … we can all pull a Dolph Lundgren and say “If she doesn’t she dies!” I know in the heat of the moment birding we can’t all throw a 100 details into emails and we appreciate everything everyone posts but adding a little extra for safety would be awesome! Christina Cole > On Sep 4, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > I think adding more detail when reporting birds would be great all around. I just started birding last year and although I brought waders yesterday to get through the water, I didn't realize how long of a hike it was after the water, and would have probably changed into something after getting through the flooded area had I known (long distance in waders on a hot day with no shade is not fun). Nonetheless, I got to see the BBWD with great shots, so I can't complain, but i second the idea of adding more detail to these locations, especially for newer birders who may be unfamiliar with the regular spots. > > Julian Ventres > >> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 11:42 AM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: >> I should probably note to that… I’m used to doing this sort of thing. >> I do everything alone. Southern girl that swims with alligators in >> the cape fear. Shark diving. Rattlesnake rangling nutter! Doesn’t >> mean it’s not dangerous. It’s dangerous! There is dual current on the >> Goff Road side. Annnnd that’s why I posted it for everyone else to be >> well informed instead of just reading “yes the whistling ducks are >> there. “ >> >> On that note I think we on the list are not only different genders, shapes and sizes but also different variants of strength and health who maybe do better in hot or cold weather. >> Lol >> >> A friend texted me yesterday she’s 4 foot 11. The response was >> definitely do not go Goff Road >> >> Maybe we should start rating these hikes by difficulty on a 1 to 5 scale. It would definitely help people that are traveling or just not familiar wIth CT’s areas in general. >> >> I’d give this one with the floods a 5 ! on a hot day with walking, a 3 bring water! >> >> Christina Cole >> >> > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks. While I am impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown. Waist- or chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still just too dangerous. I don't want to die trying to see ducks. >> > >> > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? >> > >> > Sarah Faulkner >> > Collinsville >> >> On 09/03/2021 8:50 PM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes from the Goff Road side it is! Unfortunately can’t send pics here but trust me waist deep off that road. Use the ferry road side! >> >> >> >> Christina Cole >> >> >> >>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I would like to take a trip up to see them tomorrow. Is anyone >> >>> able to help me know where to park and where the birds are >> >>> located. I'm not familiar with the area. Maybe you can drop some pins on Google maps? >> >>> >> >>> Also, I did see the messages that it's currently flooded and >> >>> about a 2 mile walk. I will plan for that. >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> Michael Richardson >> >>> Norwalk, CT >> >>> >> >>> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - >> >>> Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: >> >>> https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ >> >>> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in >> >>> Connecticut. 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That’s what supervisors are for. Historical knowledge. Failure of command results in bad outcomes. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, September 4, 2021, 6:57 PM, Sandi Jones <frogcop@cox.net> wrote: Please do take note of the concern that Sarah is mentioning as well as Christina.  We only have to look to CSP experienced trooper drowning Woodbury from flood waters. Also if you DO get in trouble in that water, you may not drown, but you will put first responders in harm's way unnecessarily.  Sandi Jones > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the > conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks.  While I am > impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your > success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown.  Waist- or > chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. > This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if > your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking > soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water > -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. > I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still > just too dangerous.  I don't want to die trying to see ducks. > > > > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a > thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? > > > > Sarah Faulkner > > Collinsville -----Original Message----- From: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org <ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 1:52 PM To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Subject: CTBirds Digest, Vol 5294, Issue 2 CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA:  https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CTBirds digest..." and also be sure to ***  TRIM OFF THE UNRELATED PORTIONS OF THE MESSAGE  *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics:   1. Rocky Hill Meadows - BCNH and LBBG (Bill Asteriades)   2. Dickcissel Norwalk Esplanade (Joanne Fasciolo)   3. Re: Whistling ducks (Julian Ventres)   4. Re: whistling ducks (Michael Richardson)   5. Re: whistling ducks (Nichols Photography)   6. Re: whistling ducks (Julian Ventres)   7. Re: Whistling ducks (Christina Cole) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:10:55 -0400 From: Bill Asteriades <bill.asteriades@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Rocky Hill Meadows - BCNH and LBBG To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Message-ID:     <CA+6NEuCwuoejCFRV_osZ0xihhyCiJ33dU0g8nDAHycOKqtcjSw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" In addition to the Black-Bellied Whistling Ducks, there was a Black-crowned Night Heron seen in flight heading towards Wethersfield Marsh, and Richard Prum and I saw a Lesser Black-backed Gull with 7 Herring Gulls drifting south (unusual inland). Bill Asteriades South Glastonbury ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:21:15 -0400 From: Joanne Fasciolo <jo.fasciolo@icloud.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Dickcissel Norwalk Esplanade To: Ctbird List <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <D8025399-E2F6-41E7-8B34-D3B2DFFA048B@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dickcissel seen along fence line and trees at the beginning of the path. Jo Fasciolo Norwalk Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:28:26 -0400 From: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: Whistling ducks To: Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID:     <CAPKjHbP61wvihWHLRhxpXiRzc9bDTjjzb_kTQeSBQOSDkJEMQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think adding more detail when reporting birds would be great all around. I just started birding last year and although I brought waders yesterday to get through the water, I didn't realize how long of a hike it was after the water, and would have probably changed into something after getting through the flooded area had I known (long distance in waders on a hot day with no shade is not fun). Nonetheless, I got to see the BBWD with great shots, so I can't complain, but i second the idea of adding more detail to these locations, especially for newer birders who may be unfamiliar with the regular spots. Julian Ventres On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 11:42 AM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: > I should probably note to that… I’m used to doing this sort of thing. > I do everything alone. Southern girl that swims with alligators in the > cape fear. Shark diving. Rattlesnake rangling nutter! Doesn’t mean > it’s not dangerous. It’s dangerous! There is dual current on the Goff Road side. > Annnnd that’s why I posted it for everyone else to be well informed > instead of just reading “yes the whistling ducks are there. “ > > On that note I think we on the list are not only different genders, > shapes and sizes but also different variants of strength and health > who maybe do better in hot or cold weather. > Lol > > A friend texted me yesterday she’s 4 foot 11. The response was > definitely do not go Goff Road > > Maybe we should start rating these hikes by difficulty on a 1 to 5 scale. > It would definitely help people that are traveling or just not > familiar wIth CT’s areas in general. > > I’d give this one with the floods a 5 ! on a hot day with walking, a 3 > bring water! > > Christina Cole > > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the > conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks.  While I am > impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your > success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown.  Waist- or > chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. > This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if > your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking > soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water > -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. > I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still > just too dangerous.  I don't want to die trying to see ducks. > > > > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a > thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? > > > > Sarah Faulkner > > Collinsville > >> On 09/03/2021 8:50 PM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Yes from the Goff Road side it is! Unfortunately can’t send pics > >> here > but trust me waist deep off that road. Use the ferry road side! > >> > >> Christina Cole > >> > >>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Michael Richardson > >>>> <msr042377@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I would like to take a trip up to see them tomorrow. Is anyone > >>> able > to help > >>> me know where to park and where the birds are located. I'm not > >>> familiar with the area. Maybe you can drop some pins on Google maps? > >>> > >>> Also, I did see the messages that it's currently flooded and about > >>> a 2 > mile > >>> walk. I will plan for that. > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> Michael Richardson > >>> Norwalk, CT > >>> > >>> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > >>> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > >>> For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > >> > >> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > >> Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > >> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > >> For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > > Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:08:50 -0400 From: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID:     <CADCJV0ZPwMQc7gQYRua5vwJX4o6_LvVkU24sz-RM__3dCC83YA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. I would have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my photos! Also, How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird puts me at 193 lifetime total. Thank you, Michael Richardson Norwalk, CT ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:11:52 -0400 From: Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <A072DCDF-E514-4D5B-91CD-65297D0CCEDB@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Third record in CT. There was 5 in Litchfield earlier this year and the first record was a single in I think 2018 in essex. Monica Nichols Madison Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. I > would have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my photos! > > Also, > > How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird > puts me at 193 lifetime total. > > Thank you, > > Michael Richardson > Norwalk, CT > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:18:04 -0400 From: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: whistling ducks To: Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> Cc: Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com>, CT Birds     <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID:     <CAPKjHbMHDmvfoooLEb=7uefLmcpOzsFq-2gyUCgGc=inBRrLrw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It's interesting, as from my understanding the BBWD is primarily considered non-migratory aside from local movements. I have seen some notes that in the northern parts of their range (Texas, Florida), they will migrate south in the winter, but CT seems to be quite an overshoot for a bird that isn't typically regarded as migratory. On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 1:12 PM Nichols Photography <manichols1993@gmail.com> wrote: > Third record in CT. There was 5 in Litchfield earlier this year and > the first record was a single in I think 2018 in essex. > > Monica Nichols > Madison > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you all so very much with the excellent directions and maps. > > I > would > > have been lost otherwise not realizing it was in farmland. I got my > photos! > > > > Also, > > > > How rare is the bbwd? Like, when was last seen in CT? This new bird > > puts > me > > at 193 lifetime total. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Michael Richardson > > Norwalk, CT > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > > Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - > Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:51:57 -0400 From: Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> Subject: [CT Birds] Re: Whistling ducks To: Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> Cc: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Message-ID: <15A0F75B-57F0-400E-BBD7-D5FD969EF157@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;      charset=utf-8 Hi Julian! I was the one on the bike going “omg you are so smart for waders!” I certainly didn’t think about them being hot. I should have offered you guys water! The other reason those waders are smart is that flooding and run off is from what …? The CT River and through farm land? Who knows what waste and cow dookie fertilizer we are walking through? So if me and my trashy soaked joggers get a flesh eating virus in the next 5 days … we can all pull a Dolph Lundgren and say “If she doesn’t she dies!” I know in the heat of the moment birding we can’t all throw a 100 details into emails and we appreciate everything everyone posts but adding a little extra for safety would be awesome! Christina Cole > On Sep 4, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Julian Ventres <ventresjulian@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > I think adding more detail when reporting birds would be great all around. I just started birding last year and although I brought waders yesterday to get through the water, I didn't realize how long of a hike it was after the water, and would have probably changed into something after getting through the flooded area had I known (long distance in waders on a hot day with no shade is not fun). Nonetheless, I got to see the BBWD with great shots, so I can't complain, but i second the idea of adding more detail to these locations, especially for newer birders who may be unfamiliar with the regular spots. > > Julian Ventres > >> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 11:42 AM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: >> I should probably note to that… I’m used to doing this sort of thing. >> I do everything alone. Southern girl that swims with alligators in >> the cape fear. Shark diving. Rattlesnake rangling nutter! Doesn’t >> mean it’s not dangerous. It’s dangerous! There is dual current on the >> Goff Road side. Annnnd that’s why I posted it for everyone else to be >> well informed instead of just reading “yes the whistling ducks are >> there. “ >> >> On that note I think we on the list are not only different genders, shapes and sizes but also different variants of strength and health who maybe do better in hot or cold weather. >> Lol >> >> A friend texted me yesterday she’s 4 foot 11. The response was >> definitely do not go Goff Road >> >> Maybe we should start rating these hikes by difficulty on a 1 to 5 scale. It would definitely help people that are traveling or just not familiar wIth CT’s areas in general. >> >> I’d give this one with the floods a 5 ! on a hot day with walking, a 3 bring water! >> >> Christina Cole >> >> > On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:43 AM, SARAH FAULKNER <sffaulkner@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > I must say that I'm getting increasingly worried reading about the conditions to see the black-bellied whistling ducks.  While I am impressed by the tenacity of the birders and am delighted at your success, I am concerned that someone is going to drown.  Waist- or chest-deep water, or even knee-deep can be very deceiving, especially if there is any current. This water is muddy and you can't see the bottom, so you don't know if your next step will be into a deeper eroded pocket or into sucking soft sediment. It's the same logic as not driving your car into water -- you just can't tell where the potholes will be or how deep the water really is. I, too, would very much like to see the ducks, but I think it's still just too dangerous.  I don't want to die trying to see ducks. >> > >> > I ask everyone to be very careful and don't go alone! Or, here's a thought, wait until the water goes down and hope they're still there? >> > >> > Sarah Faulkner >> > Collinsville >> >> On 09/03/2021 8:50 PM Christina Cole <gooutsidect@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes from the Goff Road side it is! Unfortunately can’t send pics here but trust me waist deep off that road. Use the ferry road side! >> >> >> >> Christina Cole >> >> >> >>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Michael Richardson <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I would like to take a trip up to see them tomorrow. Is anyone >> >>> able to help me know where to park and where the birds are >> >>> located. I'm not familiar with the area. Maybe you can drop some pins on Google maps? >> >>> >> >>> Also, I did see the messages that it's currently flooded and >> >>> about a 2 mile walk. I will plan for that. >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> Michael Richardson >> >>> Norwalk, CT >> >>> >> >>> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - >> >>> Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: >> >>> https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ >> >>> CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in >> >>> Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: >> >>> https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ >> >> >> >> CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - >> >> Bringing birders together statewide. 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