Thankyou so much Benny, your work
is great and very appreciated!!

Cheers!
Andrea / Italy / Florence

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From: "Benny Prijono" bennylp@pjsip.org
To: "pjsip list" pjsip@lists.pjsip.org
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: [pjsip] Version 0.9 has been released

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:51 AM, programmer programmer@supereva.it wrote:

Thanks for the kind words. It's a joint effort from all of us and the
community of course. We wouldn't get this far if we don't constantly
get feedbacks, bug reports, suggestions, and sometimes hassling from
all of you (I could use less of the later ;-) ).

So kudos for everyone!

Cheers
Benny

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Archie Rosenblum archie@bbsti.com wrote:

also its time to have an update on this section :)
http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/FAQ#g729-g723

regards
atik

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

If you want to achieve something similar to IPP, the S60 APS for Symbian
9 should be integrated inside PJMEDIA to handle directly the hardware
codec support of S60 APS.

This will cut-off some feature like "conference calling", but this would
be the best approach in terms of performance and integration of pjsip on
S60.

Consider that APS provide you even AMR 4.75 with DTX (statistically
average 2.36kbit)!

If you want to invest following that path let me know

Fabio

Thanks for replying Fabio. What about open g729 ?...i guess someone has
already integrated it?

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[mailto:pjsip-bounces@lists.pjsip.org]On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti
(naif)
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:10 PM
To: pjsip list
Subject: Re: [pjsip] Intel IPP Question

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

If you want to achieve something similar to IPP, the S60 APS for Symbian
9 should be integrated inside PJMEDIA to handle directly the hardware
codec support of S60 APS.

This will cut-off some feature like "conference calling", but this would
be the best approach in terms of performance and integration of pjsip on
S60.

Consider that APS provide you even AMR 4.75 with DTX (statistically
average 2.36kbit)!

If you want to invest following that path let me know

Fabio

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If you want to stay on S60 Symbian, like it seems to me, again the APS
provide you also the G729 codec:

http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Audio_Proxy_Server

APS supports audio streaming using the following codecs:

AMR
G711
G729
iLBC

Fabio

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

Ok..i guess open g729 is a bad idea. I guess i will go ahead with the
apprroach you suggest. However I tried to compile with IPP code and getting
issues ...may be i am missing somthing.
First i got usc*.h files issues which were solved when i copied these files
....after that i am getting ippcore.lib issuess...do i need to download this
file from somewhere else?

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Subject: Re: [pjsip] Intel IPP Question

Thanks for replying Fabio. What about open g729 ?...i guess someone has
already integrated it?

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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:10 PM
To: pjsip list
Subject: Re: [pjsip] Intel IPP Question

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

If you want to achieve something similar to IPP, the S60 APS for Symbian
9 should be integrated inside PJMEDIA to handle directly the hardware
codec support of S60 APS.

This will cut-off some feature like "conference calling", but this would
be the best approach in terms of performance and integration of pjsip on
S60.

Consider that APS provide you even AMR 4.75 with DTX (statistically
average 2.36kbit)!

If you want to invest following that path let me know

Fabio

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Archie Rosenblum archie@bbsti.com wrote:

Now calm down. :)

The work is not 100% complete yet, and I still have uncommitted changes
here, that's why the document is not in sync with the code yet.

Stay tuned for proper announcement soon.

Cheers
Benny

Yes Fabio i saw that. But i still do not get it, how could it be integrated
with pjmedia. Presently symbian port uses core pjsip and pjmedia libraries
only?...

Do you suggest that i write new mediaLib (Media_Symbian may be) and use all
audio related functions (codec,Playout, transport)....can you give me some
more idea on this?

Regards,

Manoj

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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM
To: pjsip list
Subject: Re: [pjsip] Intel IPP Question

If you want to stay on S60 Symbian, like it seems to me, again the APS
provide you also the G729 codec:

http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Audio_Proxy_Server

APS supports audio streaming using the following codecs:

AMR
G711
G729
iLBC

Fabio

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

getting

files

this

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Benny Prijono wrote:

Wow, does IPP support also AMR and PJSIP will start supporting ?

Fabio

Nanang or Benny, do you have some suggestion to support Manoj in
implementing APS directly inside pjmedia libraries?

Do you think that that kind of integration could be directly committed
inside pjsip svn like an "official support" of S60 hardware accelerated
codecs, even if it will cause some features not enabled anymore?

Manoj, are you going to publicly release such kind of changes directly
inside pjsip project?

The results could be that on S60:

A) you want to use accelerated codec and royalty-based codec like
G729/AMR for free on S60 you will loose some pjsip feature but will not
have to pay for royalties and have a very low cpu processing requirements.

B) you want to use all pjsip features and not use a royalty-based codec
like SPEEX on S60 .

What do you think of the possible result of such approach?

Regards,
Fabio

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
lists@infosecurity.ch wrote:

At the present state, yes, AMR NB/WB are supported, but we lock the AMR mode
to bandwidth efficient and we don't support negotiating AMR options in SDP
yet. But as I said, it's still under development, so I'd rather not say
anymore about which or what features are supported or not supported since
it's not final yet. So lets wait until it's done, shall we. :)

Cheers
Benny

Fabio,

Yes i intend to release it, thats the reason i am concerned about ways to
preserve most of pjsip code. I would like to follow apprroach "A" in which i
can use g729 or may be g723 also. I want to use in such a way that it uses
APS calls only for required functions and uses pjsip for rest of the
functions.

What do you think?

Regards,

Manoj

-----Original Message-----
From: pjsip-bounces@lists.pjsip.org
[mailto:pjsip-bounces@lists.pjsip.org]On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti
(naif)
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:47 PM
To: pjsip list
Subject: Re: [pjsip] Intel IPP Question

Nanang or Benny, do you have some suggestion to support Manoj in
implementing APS directly inside pjmedia libraries?

Do you think that that kind of integration could be directly committed
inside pjsip svn like an "official support" of S60 hardware accelerated
codecs, even if it will cause some features not enabled anymore?

Manoj, are you going to publicly release such kind of changes directly
inside pjsip project?

The results could be that on S60:

A) you want to use accelerated codec and royalty-based codec like
G729/AMR for free on S60 you will loose some pjsip feature but will not
have to pay for royalties and have a very low cpu processing requirements.

B) you want to use all pjsip features and not use a royalty-based codec
like SPEEX on S60 .

What do you think of the possible result of such approach?

Regards,
Fabio

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote:

integrated

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Hi Archie,

The matching #if - #endif bug has been fixed in r2223.
Thanks for the report.

Regards,
nanang

On 19/08/2008, Archie Rosenblum archie@bbsti.com wrote:

Hi Manoj,

hooking directly inside pjmedia does not mean trowing away a lot of
pjsip code.
As far as i understood the biggest feature that will not be present
anymore will be the "conference calling" and some PCM level processing
(that i don't know exactly the requirement)

Maybe hooking inside pjmedia would also mean having the APS not only
provide the hardware-royalty-paid-for-free codecs, but that it would
also directly manage the Voice Activity Detection, that's a very
important feature in order to statistically reduce the bandwidth of 50% .

Benny, Nanang am i right or not?

I still did not analyzed in the details what would mean integrating APS
inside pjmedia even if it seems like the most "clean" design for Symbian
S60 integration, because directly leverage the platform capabilities.

Fabio

Manoj Kumar Joshi wrote: