Why so few power cats???????????????

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Gary Hagstrom
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 5:33 AM

Bill and others,

It seems to me there are several answers to your question-

1-There is no Nordhavn or Fleming or equivalent with a large marketing budget promoting and building Power Cats and building many copies of the same basic vessel over and over and improving it. That means there is no reliable used market setting the price for used boats similar to newbuilds.

2-The net result of item 1 is most every newbuild is a one off build requiring the hiring of a naval architect and choosing a yard to build a single boat.  In many cases each builder has to learn many lessons over and over again. This is much more complex and time consuming than buying a new Fleming or Nordhavn or many similar others.

3-There continues to be a highlight on catamarans that get in trouble.  The most recent one was a sailing Catamaran that was abandoned and required a Coast Guard helicopter rescue 300 or so miles off of the East Coast.  The problem was failure of the rudders/steering system.  Perhaps a result of a one or two off design.

4-There are a few builders building semi production boats in the category of the typical 40-60 trawler.  My boat is a Maine Cat P-47 and it was hull 5 launched in 2010 and I believe they are now up to hull 11.  

5-Production new builds are more expensive than the used boat market which still has a great selection and the custom nature of ocean crossing capable cats make them even more expensive.

6-Perhaps the Domino type being made available as a somewhat production boat will help this.  I really think the ocean crossing capable power cat market, needs a single competent builder and design that can make some economies of scale, learn from each subsequent hull and afford to do some marketing.

Finally, I agree with you that the capabilities of catamarans are not well appreciated by most, particularly relative to speed and economy.  I chose to commit to a new build power cat during its development days even though the used boat market had collapsed and many fantastic boats a year or two old were available at good prices.  As an engineer by profession, I appreciated their potential and was willing to pay to get it.  That said, it will never save me  enough on fuel to offset its cost vs the cost of what was available in the used boat market in 2008.

All the best,

Gary Hagstrom
Carackerjack, a Maine Cat P-47 in heated storage for the winter
Iron River, Wisconsin 

Bill and others, It seems to me there are several answers to your question- 1-There is no Nordhavn or Fleming or equivalent with a large marketing budget promoting and building Power Cats and building many copies of the same basic vessel over and over and improving it. That means there is no reliable used market setting the price for used boats similar to newbuilds. 2-The net result of item 1 is most every newbuild is a one off build requiring the hiring of a naval architect and choosing a yard to build a single boat.  In many cases each builder has to learn many lessons over and over again. This is much more complex and time consuming than buying a new Fleming or Nordhavn or many similar others. 3-There continues to be a highlight on catamarans that get in trouble.  The most recent one was a sailing Catamaran that was abandoned and required a Coast Guard helicopter rescue 300 or so miles off of the East Coast.  The problem was failure of the rudders/steering system.  Perhaps a result of a one or two off design. 4-There are a few builders building semi production boats in the category of the typical 40-60 trawler.  My boat is a Maine Cat P-47 and it was hull 5 launched in 2010 and I believe they are now up to hull 11.   5-Production new builds are more expensive than the used boat market which still has a great selection and the custom nature of ocean crossing capable cats make them even more expensive. 6-Perhaps the Domino type being made available as a somewhat production boat will help this.  I really think the ocean crossing capable power cat market, needs a single competent builder and design that can make some economies of scale, learn from each subsequent hull and afford to do some marketing. Finally, I agree with you that the capabilities of catamarans are not well appreciated by most, particularly relative to speed and economy.  I chose to commit to a new build power cat during its development days even though the used boat market had collapsed and many fantastic boats a year or two old were available at good prices.  As an engineer by profession, I appreciated their potential and was willing to pay to get it.  That said, it will never save me  enough on fuel to offset its cost vs the cost of what was available in the used boat market in 2008. All the best, Gary Hagstrom Carackerjack, a Maine Cat P-47 in heated storage for the winter Iron River, Wisconsin