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Re: GL: U.S. boats in Canadian waters

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fred
Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:25 PM

Ed,

Lake Champlain requires you physically remove the pipe to your thru-hull
discharge.  Locks are not sufficient.  Removing one end of the pipe and
plugging it is not enough either.  Lectrasan doesn't matter either.  And
they don't care how difficult it is to do that.  It's the law, sorry to
say.

Fred
Tug 44


From: "ed" ekcine@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:09 AM
To: "Bill Donovan" trailersource@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: GL: U.S. boats in Canadian waters

What if you have a lectrasan?
What if you are coastal cruising up the Nova Scotia coast and want to go
off
shore 3 miles to discharge?
You say it's easy to disconnect hoses...speak for yourself! I'm in the
process of replacing my head hoses. They are VERY difficult to access.
Removing hoses can damage the hose. I spent $120 for the forward hose and
about $100 for the aft hose. I don't have a macerator on the holding tank
or
I'd have 2 more hoses to disconnect. A LOT of difficult work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Donovan"

Ed:

The answer to your concern lies in the paragraph just prior to the one

you

quote.  The website states, "...a pleasure craft fitted with a toilet

must

also be fitted with a holding tank and if fitted with a piping system

that

allows the discharge of sewage directly overboard, then this discharge
must be visibly disconnected."

The solution is to close the thru-hull for the macerator discharge,

remove

one end of the discharge hose leading to the thru-hull, and put a wooden

plug into the thru-hull as a safety measure to minimize risk of leaking.

That way, you have "visibly disconnected" the discharge.  By the way, I
would also wire the thru-hull closed so there is no chance of scuttling
the ship.  Once back in US waters, or when the fancy strikes you, put the

hose back together.  It isn't a big job at all.

The bit about "congruent" just means "compatible" or "harmonious" or
"appropriate."  Any professionally installed holding tank will most

likely

be so.

Bill

At 07:57 AM 2/19/2009, ed wrote:

From the Canadian gov't. website:

Portable Toilets

Portable toilets are illegal on Ontario waters.
*The owner of a pleasure craft shall ensure that each toilet and the
holding
tank(s) is/are installed so that;
..snip...
I may have to re-think my plan for this summer
to visit Ontario, I'm not ripping out my Y-valves and overboard

discharge

lines. Not sure at all what that last line means.

Ed K


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Ed, Lake Champlain requires you physically remove the pipe to your thru-hull discharge. Locks are not sufficient. Removing one end of the pipe and plugging it is not enough either. Lectrasan doesn't matter either. And they don't care how difficult it is to do that. It's the law, sorry to say. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "ed" <ekcine@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:09 AM To: "Bill Donovan" <trailersource@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: GL: U.S. boats in Canadian waters What if you have a lectrasan? What if you are coastal cruising up the Nova Scotia coast and want to go off shore 3 miles to discharge? You say it's easy to disconnect hoses...speak for yourself! I'm in the process of replacing my head hoses. They are VERY difficult to access. Removing hoses can damage the hose. I spent $120 for the forward hose and about $100 for the aft hose. I don't have a macerator on the holding tank or I'd have 2 more hoses to disconnect. A LOT of difficult work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Donovan" > Ed: > > The answer to your concern lies in the paragraph just prior to the one you > quote. The website states, "...a pleasure craft fitted with a toilet must > also be fitted with a holding tank and if fitted with a piping system that > allows the discharge of sewage directly overboard, then this discharge > must be visibly disconnected." > > The solution is to close the thru-hull for the macerator discharge, remove > one end of the discharge hose leading to the thru-hull, and put a wooden > plug into the thru-hull as a safety measure to minimize risk of leaking. > > That way, you have "visibly disconnected" the discharge. By the way, I > would also wire the thru-hull closed so there is no chance of scuttling > the ship. Once back in US waters, or when the fancy strikes you, put the > hose back together. It isn't a big job at all. > > The bit about "congruent" just means "compatible" or "harmonious" or > "appropriate." Any professionally installed holding tank will most likely > be so. > > Bill > > > At 07:57 AM 2/19/2009, ed wrote: >> >From the Canadian gov't. website: >> >>Portable Toilets >> >>Portable toilets are illegal on Ontario waters. >>*The owner of a pleasure craft shall ensure that each toilet and the >>holding >>tank(s) is/are installed so that; >>..snip... >>I may have to re-think my plan for this summer >>to visit Ontario, I'm not ripping out my Y-valves and overboard discharge >>lines. Not sure at all what that last line means. >> >>Ed K _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop