I'll say! And we are happy to have one. Trouble is, it's an 8-man - a bit big for Penny and me. The PO is a big man - he and his wife cruised in cold waters with two other couples. When I asked him why he didn't get a 6-man he said he didn't want to be "cramped!" Anyone on the list want to trade a recent 4-man Givens for our 8? Top of the line - New 2002 - repacked 2005. Hard case, deck bracket and EPIRB included. Regards, John "Seahorse" > Take a look at the Givens Life Raft; which rode through a hurricane with 4 people on board surviving 190 knot wind gusts and 35ft breaking waves. http://tinyurl.com/ynrcal Impressive...... ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com