CD
Curtis Dean Smith
Tue, Sep 1, 2009 3:00 PM
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
BB
Beverly Bossler
Tue, Sep 1, 2009 3:41 PM
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it
would be a great service to our members and might even entice others to
join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it
would be a great service to our members and might even entice others to
join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
> I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
> the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
> individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very clear
> that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
> application explanation: Applications are received from residents of Taiwan
> (irrespective of nationality).
> I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
>
> Curtis Dean Smith
> Assoc. Professor of Chinese
> Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
> Grand Valley State University
> Allendale, MI 49401-9403
> smithcu@gvsu.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
> Listserv mailing list
> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>
XJ
Xiao-bin Ji
Tue, Sep 1, 2009 11:02 PM
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bosslerbjbossler@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bossler<bjbossler@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
> be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
> Best, Beverly
>
> Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
>> the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
>> individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
>> clear
>> that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
>> application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
>> Taiwan
>> (irrespective of nationality).
>> I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
>>
>> Curtis Dean Smith
>> Assoc. Professor of Chinese
>> Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
>> Grand Valley State University
>> Allendale, MI 49401-9403
>> smithcu@gvsu.edu
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Listserv mailing list
>> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
>> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Listserv mailing list
> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>
CH
Charles Hartman
Wed, Sep 2, 2009 12:04 AM
Paul’s idea to negotiate with Academia Sinica for “institutional” access
to their databases seems an excellent idea. Since I do not have access,
I’m not sure exactly what’s there or how useful their database would be
to my research. However, the impetus for this discussion was their
digital version of Li Tao’s Changbian. The Changbian, and most other
“mainline” Song primary sources, are available through the “e-Siku.” I
think most of us, one way or another, have access to the e-Siku. To my
knowledge, the only database that Academic Sinica has, outside of texts
already searchable through the e-Siku, is the Song Huiyao. Thanks to
Peter, we once had an agreement with Academia Sinica that American Song
scholars could access their SHY database. I could however never quite
manage from Albany to gain functional access, and the last time I tried
I was informed that the database was undergoing repair and not
available. I believe, however, it is available to those who have
institutional access to the entire Academia Sinica database.
I manage time and again through intermediaries to run searches on the
SHY database, and it’s an enormously useful resource. My suggestion
therefore is this: if negotiations with Academic Sinica for access to
their entire database prove unproductive or overly ambitious, perhaps
another alternative would be to attempt to revamp the access we once had
to the SHY.
Take care,
charles hartman
Xiao-bin Ji wrote:
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bosslerbjbossler@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
Paul’s idea to negotiate with Academia Sinica for “institutional” access
to their databases seems an excellent idea. Since I do not have access,
I’m not sure exactly what’s there or how useful their database would be
to my research. However, the impetus for this discussion was their
digital version of Li Tao’s Changbian. The Changbian, and most other
“mainline” Song primary sources, are available through the “e-Siku.” I
think most of us, one way or another, have access to the e-Siku. To my
knowledge, the only database that Academic Sinica has, outside of texts
already searchable through the e-Siku, is the Song Huiyao. Thanks to
Peter, we once had an agreement with Academia Sinica that American Song
scholars could access their SHY database. I could however never quite
manage from Albany to gain functional access, and the last time I tried
I was informed that the database was undergoing repair and not
available. I believe, however, it is available to those who have
institutional access to the entire Academia Sinica database.
I manage time and again through intermediaries to run searches on the
SHY database, and it’s an enormously useful resource. My suggestion
therefore is this: if negotiations with Academic Sinica for access to
their entire database prove unproductive or overly ambitious, perhaps
another alternative would be to attempt to revamp the access we once had
to the SHY.
Take care,
charles hartman
Xiao-bin Ji wrote:
> I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
> question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
> subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
> How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
> institution?
>
> Best,
> Xiao-bin
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bossler<bjbossler@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
>> I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
>> be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
>> Best, Beverly
>>
>> Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
>>> the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
>>> individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
>>> clear
>>> that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
>>> application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
>>> Taiwan
>>> (irrespective of nationality).
>>> I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
>>>
>>> Curtis Dean Smith
>>> Assoc. Professor of Chinese
>>> Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
>>> Grand Valley State University
>>> Allendale, MI 49401-9403
>>> smithcu@gvsu.edu
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Listserv mailing list
>>> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
>>> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Listserv mailing list
>> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
>> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>
PB
Peter Bol
Wed, Sep 2, 2009 12:27 AM
Dear Colleagues
The AS database covers all of Chinese history, there must be a way to find the complete list but I do not see it.
e.g.the history section has these categories
史
史評
正史
目錄
地理
別史
政書
紀事本末
詔令奏議
傳記
載記
編年
職官
雜史
and this is what is in the biannian shi section
清實錄
明實錄
古本竹書紀年輯證
戰國策
前漢紀
資治通鑑
續資治通鑑長編
建炎以來繫年要錄
後漢紀校注
the bieji include
別集
震川先生集
典論
顧亭林詩文集
王梵志詩
顏元集
四庫輯本別集拾遺
桐江集
滋溪文稿
揭傒斯全集
湛然居士文集
元好問全集
鄭思肖集
永和本薩天錫逸詩
謝疊山全集校注
朱子文集
The advantages of this db is that it is punctuated, it uses the best editions, and its standard is 1 error in 20,000 characters.
peter bol
SR
Shinno, Reiko
Wed, Sep 2, 2009 2:18 AM
I am already very grateful to the Institute of History and Philology for all the open database
resources. At the same time, I was impressed by their closed database of medical texts when I was at Academia Sinica
a couple of years ago. So I certainly think it would be great if I had access to the closed databases from my house in Eau Claire, WI :-).
As to Xiao-bin's question, I think there must be ways for an academic society to
work out the proxy issue. If I recall correctly, American Historical Association gives its members access to JSTOR.
But the problem is that the Society isn't AHA, so I am wondering how much we can afford to
work together as a group administratively and technically. I am thinking the more realistic way might be to ask (or beg) the Institute
to consider creating, say, a 5-year subscription option for overseas scholars.
Reiko Shinno, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of History
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
From: listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Xiao-bin Ji [xiaobin.ji@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bosslerbjbossler@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
I am already very grateful to the Institute of History and Philology for all the open database
resources. At the same time, I was impressed by their closed database of medical texts when I was at Academia Sinica
a couple of years ago. So I certainly think it would be great if I had access to the closed databases from my house in Eau Claire, WI :-).
As to Xiao-bin's question, I think there must be ways for an academic society to
work out the proxy issue. If I recall correctly, American Historical Association gives its members access to JSTOR.
But the problem is that the Society isn't AHA, so I am wondering how much we can afford to
work together as a group administratively and technically. I am thinking the more realistic way might be to ask (or beg) the Institute
to consider creating, say, a 5-year subscription option for overseas scholars.
Reiko Shinno, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of History
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
________________________________________
From: listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Xiao-bin Ji [xiaobin.ji@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bossler<bjbossler@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
> be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
> Best, Beverly
>
> Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
>> the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
>> individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
>> clear
>> that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
>> application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
>> Taiwan
>> (irrespective of nationality).
>> I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
>>
>> Curtis Dean Smith
>> Assoc. Professor of Chinese
>> Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
>> Grand Valley State University
>> Allendale, MI 49401-9403
>> smithcu@gvsu.edu
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Listserv mailing list
>> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
>> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Listserv mailing list
> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>
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JS
jaeyoon song
Wed, Sep 2, 2009 10:46 AM
I just sent out this message but it came back for being a bit too large.
I'd like to share these files with anyone who needs them.
Good Morning,
Attached is the first of the whole Song huiyao in doc file.
Can I upload the whole body of the text for downloading in the JSYS website?
Or do you think this will create a copyright issue?
I hope this will benefit us all.
Best,
Jaeyoon Song
History Department,
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: "Shinno, Reiko" SHINNOR@uwec.edu
To: "Listserv@mail.songyuan.org" Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:18:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I am already very grateful to the Institute of History and Philology for all the open database
resources. At the same time, I was impressed by their closed database of medical texts when I was at Academia Sinica
a couple of years ago. So I certainly think it would be great if I had access to the closed databases from my house in Eau Claire, WI :-).
As to Xiao-bin's question, I think there must be ways for an academic society to
work out the proxy issue. If I recall correctly, American Historical Association gives its members access to JSTOR.
But the problem is that the Society isn't AHA, so I am wondering how much we can afford to
work together as a group administratively and technically. I am thinking the more realistic way might be to ask (or beg) the Institute
to consider creating, say, a 5-year subscription option for overseas scholars.
Reiko Shinno, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of History
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
From: listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Xiao-bin Ji [xiaobin.ji@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bosslerbjbossler@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
Best, Beverly
Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
clear
that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
Taiwan
(irrespective of nationality).
I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
Curtis Dean Smith
Assoc. Professor of Chinese
Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, MI 49401-9403
smithcu@gvsu.edu
Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
I just sent out this message but it came back for being a bit too large.
I'd like to share these files with anyone who needs them.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Good Morning,
Attached is the first of the whole Song huiyao in doc file.
Can I upload the whole body of the text for downloading in the JSYS website?
Or do you think this will create a copyright issue?
I hope this will benefit us all.
Best,
Jaeyoon Song
History Department,
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: "Shinno, Reiko" <SHINNOR@uwec.edu>
To: "Listserv@mail.songyuan.org" <Listserv@mail.songyuan.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:18:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I am already very grateful to the Institute of History and Philology for all the open database
resources. At the same time, I was impressed by their closed database of medical texts when I was at Academia Sinica
a couple of years ago. So I certainly think it would be great if I had access to the closed databases from my house in Eau Claire, WI :-).
As to Xiao-bin's question, I think there must be ways for an academic society to
work out the proxy issue. If I recall correctly, American Historical Association gives its members access to JSTOR.
But the problem is that the Society isn't AHA, so I am wondering how much we can afford to
work together as a group administratively and technically. I am thinking the more realistic way might be to ask (or beg) the Institute
to consider creating, say, a 5-year subscription option for overseas scholars.
Reiko Shinno, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of History
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
________________________________________
From: listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Xiao-bin Ji [xiaobin.ji@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database
I share everyone's enthusiasm for Paul's wonderful idea. A technical
question: When one uses JSTOR, etc. via one's university's
subscription, one has to set up a proxy via the university's server.
How would the proxy arrangement work if the Society subscribes as an
institution?
Best,
Xiao-bin
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Beverly Bossler<bjbossler@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> I think Paul's idea of approaching them as a Society is excellent--it would
> be a great service to our members and might even entice others to join.
> Best, Beverly
>
> Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have been in communication with Ms. Chang Ch'ung-yueh, who is listed on
>> the entry page as the contact person, and asked about applying for an
>> individual account. She said I was eligible, but once it became very
>> clear
>> that I am not physically in Taiwan, I was reminded of bullet two of the
>> application explanation: Applications are received from residents of
>> Taiwan
>> (irrespective of nationality).
>> I guess I was hoping they had changed that restriction.
>>
>> Curtis Dean Smith
>> Assoc. Professor of Chinese
>> Dept. of Modern Langs & Lits
>> Grand Valley State University
>> Allendale, MI 49401-9403
>> smithcu@gvsu.edu
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Listserv mailing list
>> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
>> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Listserv mailing list
> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
>
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