Re my earlier mail on this subject: it took me several days to dig out this info from my archives. Also to give credit to the guy who send it to me originally - Don Taylor - and in the interest of anyone who ever owned or now owns a SABB, PLEASE reply to me and I'll co-ordinate any further correspondence. But mostly I hope that my voice is heard out there in the water-wilderness <G> George of Scaramouche, who now drives a German Diesel, but wished he had his Norwegian Bear back on board <more grins>