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Gary Corn and Gail Eades
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 11:42 AM

I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green
Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the
Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois.  I
am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current.  I can find
waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not
current in mph or knots.  Anyone know of such a site?

Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those
waters?

Gary Corn

I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois. I am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current. I can find waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not current in mph or knots. Anyone know of such a site? Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those waters? Gary Corn
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Brent Hodges
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 4:19 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Corn and Gail Eades" g3evolution@charter.net
.  I can find

waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not
current in mph or knots.  Anyone know of such a site?

When we brought a boat from the Tenn River through the Ohio, Miss, and on to
the Arkansas last year, we found a chart that related either cu ft / second,
or river level, to speed of current. But neither me or my co captain can
remember where we got it. Good news : It does exist  Bad news:  Don't know
where.

Brent

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Corn and Gail Eades" <g3evolution@charter.net> . I can find > waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not > current in mph or knots. Anyone know of such a site? When we brought a boat from the Tenn River through the Ohio, Miss, and on to the Arkansas last year, we found a chart that related either cu ft / second, or river level, to speed of current. But neither me or my co captain can remember where we got it. Good news : It does exist Bad news: Don't know where. Brent
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Todd Mains
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 4:31 PM

RE: Speed of river current

My background is that I work in the Command Center, USCG Sector Portland,
OR.  I'm also a small boat Coxswain on the water.  Your question is about
the Mississippi, but speed of river current is something that we work with
all the time in search and rescue.  In our case, the Columbia, Snake, and
Willamette primarily.

There is no easy answer.  The river travels at different speeds in different
places.  The main channel moves faster than the bank.  The surface moves at
a different speed than at depth.  It isn't even all going the same direction
all the time.

Factors are precipitation, runoff, dam releases, and tides.

All that being said, your question was for a web site.  Here's a good place
to start.

http://www.weather.gov/ahps/

I have a lot to learn about the dynamics of the river, and it's something I
try to understand on a daily basis.

Happy cruising,

Todd Mains
Scappoose, OR

RE: Speed of river current My background is that I work in the Command Center, USCG Sector Portland, OR. I'm also a small boat Coxswain on the water. Your question is about the Mississippi, but speed of river current is something that we work with all the time in search and rescue. In our case, the Columbia, Snake, and Willamette primarily. There is no easy answer. The river travels at different speeds in different places. The main channel moves faster than the bank. The surface moves at a different speed than at depth. It isn't even all going the same direction all the time. Factors are precipitation, runoff, dam releases, and tides. All that being said, your question was for a web site. Here's a good place to start. http://www.weather.gov/ahps/ I have a lot to learn about the dynamics of the river, and it's something I try to understand on a daily basis. Happy cruising, Todd Mains Scappoose, OR
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Gregory Han
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 6:01 PM

Isn't google a wonderful thing

I entered

usacoe mississippi currents

and found quite a bit of info

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Gary Corn and Gail Eades
g3evolution@charter.net wrote:

I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green

Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the
Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois.  I
am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current.  I can find
waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not
current in mph or knots.  Anyone know of such a site?

Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those
waters?

Gary Corn


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Isn't google a wonderful thing I entered usacoe mississippi currents and found quite a bit of info On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Gary Corn and Gail Eades <g3evolution@charter.net> wrote: > I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green > Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the > Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois. I > am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current. I can find > waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not > current in mph or knots. Anyone know of such a site? > > > > Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those > waters? > > > > Gary Corn > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > -- Greg and Susan Han Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16
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Arild Jensen
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 7:27 PM

HELP

I think I found the data website Gary and others mentioned, but for some
reason I was unable to "cut and paste"  the URL into an email text message.
Ever since the last automatic update to my XP software I have had all sort
of minor glitches to how my program works. The tool bars look slightly
different and things work slightly different than the yused to  or at least
as I remember them to work.  I know I'm not the only one with this problem.

For example, I recall having a place in my tool bar that gave the exact
address of whatever I happened to be looking at.
That's gone. How do I get it back? I used have a ton of marine related
websites but I can no longer find them.  What happened?

Arild

HELP I think I found the data website Gary and others mentioned, but for some reason I was unable to "cut and paste" the URL into an email text message. Ever since the last automatic update to my XP software I have had all sort of minor glitches to how my program works. The tool bars look slightly different and things work slightly different than the yused to or at least as I remember them to work. I know I'm not the only one with this problem. For example, I recall having a place in my tool bar that gave the exact address of whatever I happened to be looking at. That's gone. How do I get it back? I used have a ton of marine related websites but I can no longer find them. What happened? Arild
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tbehan6468@aol.com
Sun, Mar 23, 2008 9:46 PM

Gary - Google 'Corps of Engineers Rock Island'. You will find a link to their homepage which has their phone number ((800) 799-8302), etc. Call them up and have a talk. This the HQ for the Upper Mississippi River COE (at my home town). I've also included the link below.

Also suggest that you get a copy of their COE Mississippi River Chart. This shows (among other things) the channel and the locations of those all important wing dams?THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HIT. In many places, the wing dams run almost up to the channel. It is available in hard copy from them and is also online. Note it does not include depths. But . . . the channel is maintained by the COE to a minimum depth of 9 ft. Go outside the channel at your own risk.

One more thing in case you don't know: Whenever?the COE provides river channel depth, it will be the depth above the 9 ft level. So if they say the depth is 5 ft at Lock and Dam 15, then it is really 14 ft there in the channel. My hometown newspaper contains this info and there would always be someone who would think the river was only?4 ft deep (for instance)?because that's what was shown as the river depth there on that particular day.

Tim Behan

http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Corn and Gail Eades g3evolution@charter.net
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 7:42 am
Subject: T&T: Mississippi current speed

I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green
Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the
Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois.  I
am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current.  I can find
waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not
current in mph or knots.  Anyone know of such a site?

Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those
waters?

Gary Corn


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Gary - Google 'Corps of Engineers Rock Island'. You will find a link to their homepage which has their phone number ((800) 799-8302), etc. Call them up and have a talk. This the HQ for the Upper Mississippi River COE (at my home town). I've also included the link below. Also suggest that you get a copy of their COE Mississippi River Chart. This shows (among other things) the channel and the locations of those all important wing dams?THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HIT. In many places, the wing dams run almost up to the channel. It is available in hard copy from them and is also online. Note it does not include depths. But . . . the channel is maintained by the COE to a minimum depth of 9 ft. Go outside the channel at your own risk. One more thing in case you don't know: Whenever?the COE provides river channel depth, it will be the depth above the 9 ft level. So if they say the depth is 5 ft at Lock and Dam 15, then it is really 14 ft there in the channel. My hometown newspaper contains this info and there would always be someone who would think the river was only?4 ft deep (for instance)?because that's what was shown as the river depth there on that particular day. Tim Behan http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/ -----Original Message----- From: Gary Corn and Gail Eades <g3evolution@charter.net> To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Sent: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 7:42 am Subject: T&T: Mississippi current speed I am planning for a possible yacht delivery later in the spring from Green Turtle Bay on the Cumberland River, down the Cumberland and Ohio to the Mississippi and then 222 miles upstream to the junction of the Illinois. I am unable to find a website with the speed of the River current. I can find waiting time at locks, vessel locations and cubic feed/second, but not current in mph or knots. Anyone know of such a site? Also, is the Quimby's cruising guide still the "only game in town" for those waters? Gary Corn _______________________________________________ http://