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Sunk boats, replace all wiring and systems?

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Scott E. Bulger
Mon, May 29, 2006 3:35 PM

I'm curious, if a boat has sunk in salt water, sat submerged up to 60 feet
deep for 36 hours and then raised, is it a complete loss?  If such a boat
were salvaged, would all the wiring and mechanical systems require complete
replacement or could they be flushed, treated and restored to service.  With
all the boats lost to hurricanes I'd imagine there is a significant amount
of experience with this topic.  Would the water also penetrate the coring
and other inconspicuous places where years from now it would come back to
haunt an owner?

I ask this question not about the boat I just purchased, but one that is for
sale in the Pacific NW that is being advertised without reference to the
fact it was sunk at one time.  Does the owner have to disclose that?  Would
the title make reference to it being a salvage vessel.  At some price this
boat may make complete sense to go ahead and purchase.  If the basic boat is
disassembled, cleaned and reassembled I would assume at some point it can be
restored to service at a price that may make sense.  Thanks for your
thoughts.

Scott Bulger, PUP list administrator
Alanui, Seattle WA, Nordhavn 40/II

I'm curious, if a boat has sunk in salt water, sat submerged up to 60 feet deep for 36 hours and then raised, is it a complete loss? If such a boat were salvaged, would all the wiring and mechanical systems require complete replacement or could they be flushed, treated and restored to service. With all the boats lost to hurricanes I'd imagine there is a significant amount of experience with this topic. Would the water also penetrate the coring and other inconspicuous places where years from now it would come back to haunt an owner? I ask this question not about the boat I just purchased, but one that is for sale in the Pacific NW that is being advertised without reference to the fact it was sunk at one time. Does the owner have to disclose that? Would the title make reference to it being a salvage vessel. At some price this boat may make complete sense to go ahead and purchase. If the basic boat is disassembled, cleaned and reassembled I would assume at some point it can be restored to service at a price that may make sense. Thanks for your thoughts. Scott Bulger, PUP list administrator Alanui, Seattle WA, Nordhavn 40/II
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Lee Licata
Mon, May 29, 2006 6:23 PM

Scott,

I had to raise a captain's barge that was sunk was 48 hours in the
waters outside Gaeta, Italy.

It was in 80' of water some 50-60 hours.

IMMEDIATELY upon raising, it was pumped out and everything,
regardless of what is was, was flushed with copious amounts of fresh
water. We did not even bother keeping that water away from the
batteries.

Then, once ashore, we pulled the detroit diesel and all ancillary
equipment. The big items were stripped down and inspected, and then
reassembled using whatever new / refurbished parts were needed. This
included electrical panels, gauges, pumps, etc.

The wiring was all replaced. Per my electrician, probably 50% was
usable, but which 50%, and which part of the wire made it easier to
replace it all. We used the opportunity to rewire it to make
troubleshooting easier.

Hope this helps.

I do not believe that there in a water craft truth-in-lending law
like there is for homes, but I cannot believe that if directly asked
"What accidents has this boat experienced" he would lie. If he does
lie, and you catch him at it, he knows that the word will spread. I
also believe a surveyor would probably find considerable evidence of
something amiss. It could be too many stuff new, some water logging,
an odd smell, corrosion where it should not be, something that ought
to work like a champ being problematic, etc.

There is a service out there that, giving a HIN, it will tell you
what is with the boat. It should show what has happened. Or, it
should show a history that would show that it has been thru salvage..

Lee

On May 29, 2006, at 18:35, Scott E. Bulger wrote:

I'm curious, if a boat has sunk in salt water, sat submerged up to 60
feet
deep for 36 hours and then raised, is it a complete loss?  If such a
boat
were salvaged, would all the wiring and mechanical systems require
complete
replacement or could they be flushed, treated and restored to
service.  With
all the boats lost to hurricanes I'd imagine there is a significant
amount
of experience with this topic.  Would the water also penetrate the
coring
and other inconspicuous places where years from now it would come
back to
haunt an owner?

I ask this question not about the boat I just purchased, but one that
is for
sale in the Pacific NW that is being advertised without reference to the
fact it was sunk at one time.  Does the owner have to disclose that?
Would
the title make reference to it being a salvage vessel.  At some price
this
boat may make complete sense to go ahead and purchase.  If the basic
boat is
disassembled, cleaned and reassembled I would assume at some point it
can be
restored to service at a price that may make sense.  Thanks for your
thoughts.

Scott Bulger, PUP list administrator
Alanui, Seattle WA, Nordhavn 40/II


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Scott, I had to raise a captain's barge that was sunk was 48 hours in the waters outside Gaeta, Italy. It was in 80' of water some 50-60 hours. IMMEDIATELY upon raising, it was pumped out and everything, regardless of what is was, was flushed with copious amounts of fresh water. We did not even bother keeping that water away from the batteries. Then, once ashore, we pulled the detroit diesel and all ancillary equipment. The big items were stripped down and inspected, and then reassembled using whatever new / refurbished parts were needed. This included electrical panels, gauges, pumps, etc. The wiring was all replaced. Per my electrician, probably 50% was usable, but which 50%, and which part of the wire made it easier to replace it all. We used the opportunity to rewire it to make troubleshooting easier. Hope this helps. I do not believe that there in a water craft truth-in-lending law like there is for homes, but I cannot believe that if directly asked "What accidents has this boat experienced" he would lie. If he does lie, and you catch him at it, he knows that the word will spread. I also believe a surveyor would probably find considerable evidence of something amiss. It could be too many stuff new, some water logging, an odd smell, corrosion where it should not be, something that ought to work like a champ being problematic, etc. There is a service out there that, giving a HIN, it will tell you what is with the boat. It should show what has happened. Or, it should show a history that would show that it has been thru salvage.. Lee On May 29, 2006, at 18:35, Scott E. Bulger wrote: I'm curious, if a boat has sunk in salt water, sat submerged up to 60 feet deep for 36 hours and then raised, is it a complete loss? If such a boat were salvaged, would all the wiring and mechanical systems require complete replacement or could they be flushed, treated and restored to service. With all the boats lost to hurricanes I'd imagine there is a significant amount of experience with this topic. Would the water also penetrate the coring and other inconspicuous places where years from now it would come back to haunt an owner? I ask this question not about the boat I just purchased, but one that is for sale in the Pacific NW that is being advertised without reference to the fact it was sunk at one time. Does the owner have to disclose that? Would the title make reference to it being a salvage vessel. At some price this boat may make complete sense to go ahead and purchase. If the basic boat is disassembled, cleaned and reassembled I would assume at some point it can be restored to service at a price that may make sense. Thanks for your thoughts. Scott Bulger, PUP list administrator Alanui, Seattle WA, Nordhavn 40/II _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.