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David H Sorenson

Sat, Mar 1, 2008 2:46 PM

I will certainly defer to salts older and wiser than me on this issue.
However, as we continue our adventure of finding our final boat (for the
loop) here are my observations. I realise these are broad generalizations
with clear exceptions. However, our boat looking/research in the Great
Lakes region is that motor yachts tend to be (a) planing hull types, (b)
shallower draft, and (c) are not as heavy. At least in the Great Lakes, a
lot of motor yachts up to about 42 feet in length are gas powered. I
certainly am aware of the marketing hype which blurs vessel types to the
current perceived buying fad to sell more boats. But my perception is
that most recreational trawlers are diesel powered, heavier, deeper
draft, and of course are not planing hulls. Accordingly, they tend to
have better sea-keeping abilities. Having said that, the enclosed sundeck
above the aft-cabin is a very attractive design -- if that is what many
consider to be a motor yacht.

David Sorenson
Duluth, MN

I will certainly defer to salts older and wiser than me on this issue. However, as we continue our adventure of finding our final boat (for the loop) here are my observations. I realise these are broad generalizations with clear exceptions. However, our boat looking/research in the Great Lakes region is that motor yachts tend to be (a) planing hull types, (b) shallower draft, and (c) are not as heavy. At least in the Great Lakes, a lot of motor yachts up to about 42 feet in length are gas powered. I certainly am aware of the marketing hype which blurs vessel types to the current perceived buying fad to sell more boats. But my perception is that most recreational trawlers are diesel powered, heavier, deeper draft, and of course are not planing hulls. Accordingly, they tend to have better sea-keeping abilities. Having said that, the enclosed sundeck above the aft-cabin is a very attractive design -- if that is what many consider to be a motor yacht. David Sorenson Duluth, MN

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R C Smith Jr

Sat, Mar 1, 2008 3:46 PM

David H Sorenson wrote:

my perception is that most recreational trawlers ... of course are not planing
hulls.

Curiously, this is not true.

To my knowledge, all Marine Traders, Grand Banks, Albins, Defevers, Selenes,
Jeffersons, Flemings, Mainship, Ocean Alex, Nordic tugs, and almost all
Cheoy Lees are planing hulls....which has gotta outnumber the Krogens,
Nordhavns, Willards and Hatteras LRCs.

Bob

R C Smith Jr
M/V MARY KATHRYN
1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
Jib Room
Marsh Harbour, Abaco
BAHAMAS

David H Sorenson wrote: > my perception is that most recreational trawlers ... of course are not planing > hulls. Curiously, this is not true. To my knowledge, all Marine Traders, Grand Banks, Albins, Defevers, Selenes, Jeffersons, Flemings, Mainship, Ocean Alex, Nordic tugs, and almost all Cheoy Lees are planing hulls....which has gotta outnumber the Krogens, Nordhavns, Willards and Hatteras LRCs. Bob ____________________ R C Smith Jr M/V MARY KATHRYN 1977 Hatteras 58 LRC Jib Room Marsh Harbour, Abaco BAHAMAS

AJ

Arild Jensen

Sat, Mar 1, 2008 6:02 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: R C Smith Jr

Curiously, this is not true.

To my knowledge, all Marine Traders, Grand Banks, Albins,
Defevers, Selenes, Jeffersons, Flemings, Mainship, Ocean Alex, Nordic

tugs, and almost all

Cheoy Lees are planing hulls....which has gotta outnumber the Krogens,
Nordhavns, Willards and Hatteras LRCs.

Bob

REPLY
The reason for the slab sided, flat bottomed planing huls, is a builder's
convenience.
These hulls have almost straight sides so its easy to simply extend the
lines a bit to get another few feet added.
It's also much easier to rearrange the interior spaces, especially engine
rooms. Easy to change next year's model to "look different". Interior
substance doesn't count. Its the supeficial appearance that catches the eye
in mass marketing.

A real seagoing vessel has all curved sides, rounded bottoms, and a nicely
curved sheerline with some rocker included.
The curves are what makes the ship. It imparts strenght to the hull, adds
character and imparts a lot of grace. Marilyn Monroe would never have made
it in Hollywood if she had been flat chested.

Cheers
Arild

> -----Original Message----- > From: R C Smith Jr > Curiously, this is not true. > > To my knowledge, all Marine Traders, Grand Banks, Albins, > Defevers, Selenes, Jeffersons, Flemings, Mainship, Ocean Alex, Nordic tugs, and almost all > Cheoy Lees are planing hulls....which has gotta outnumber the Krogens, > Nordhavns, Willards and Hatteras LRCs. > > Bob REPLY The reason for the slab sided, flat bottomed planing huls, is a builder's convenience. These hulls have almost straight sides so its easy to simply extend the lines a bit to get another few feet added. It's also much easier to rearrange the interior spaces, especially engine rooms. Easy to change next year's model to "look different". Interior substance doesn't count. Its the supeficial appearance that catches the eye in mass marketing. A real seagoing vessel has all curved sides, rounded bottoms, and a nicely curved sheerline with some rocker included. The curves are what makes the ship. It imparts strenght to the hull, adds character and imparts a lot of grace. Marilyn Monroe would never have made it in Hollywood if she had been flat chested. Cheers Arild

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