SO
Stephen Offutt
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 3:57 PM
Last year I traded the old Verizon 5740 card in for the better 5750 card.
However, the KR-1 Wireless Router did not support the 5750 so I gave up
wireless on the boat.
Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the Verizon 5750 PCMCIA
card? I am currently swapping the card between computers which limits
internet connectivity to one at a time.
Any experience/ideas greatly appreciated.
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
361.244.4726
Last year I traded the old Verizon 5740 card in for the better 5750 card.
However, the KR-1 Wireless Router did not support the 5750 so I gave up
wireless on the boat.
Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the Verizon 5750 PCMCIA
card? I am currently swapping the card between computers which limits
internet connectivity to one at a time.
Any experience/ideas greatly appreciated.
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
361.244.4726
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 4:23 PM
Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the
Verizon 5750 PCMCIA card? I am currently swapping
the card between computers which limits internet
connectivity to one at a time.
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
---=
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.
> Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the
> Verizon 5750 PCMCIA card? I am currently swapping
> the card between computers which limits internet
> connectivity to one at a time.
>
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
==================================
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.
MS
M Sharp
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 4:24 PM
I use a Lynksys WRT54G3G-ST with my Kyocera card and don't know it will
support your aircard but it's supposed to be compatible with many cards. You
might check that one out. Look here:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/873/63/
A good place to get information is
http://www.evdoforums.com/
You can search for your card or the various routers for information and post
questions there.
I use a Lynksys WRT54G3G-ST with my Kyocera card and don't know it will
support your aircard but it's supposed to be compatible with many cards. You
might check that one out. Look here:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/873/63/
A good place to get information is
http://www.evdoforums.com/
You can search for your card or the various routers for information and post
questions there.
> From: stephen@ourdutchmaster.com> To:
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:57:37
-0600> Subject: T&T: Air Card Wirless Router Search> > Last year I traded the
old Verizon 5740 card in for the better 5750 card.> However, the KR-1 Wireless
Router did not support the 5750 so I gave up> wireless on the boat.>
_________________________________________________________________
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SO
Stephen Offutt
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 4:30 PM
[Snip>>
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
---=
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
<<Snip]
Jeffrey, is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
[Snip>>
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
==================================
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
<<Snip]
Jeffrey, is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 5:13 PM
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
the ability for multiple computers to share a single
cellular connection in the future.
...is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
As wireless access expands, it starts adding real costs to the cellular
providers or else everyone's performance decreases (or gets terminated).
Because of this, all of the providers have started adding new provisions in
the agreement that you agree to but never read. For example, here are a
couple of goodies from Verizon's data card agreement (although I'm not
picking on them - all of them are doing this):
-
"NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only"
-
"While most common uses for Internet are permitted by your Data Plan,
there are certain uses that cause extreme network capacity issues and
interference with the network. These are not uses intended by our Data
Access plans and are therefore prohibited."
-
"If usage exceeds 5 GB per line during any billing period, we reserve the
right to reduce throughput speeds of any application that would otherwise
exceed such speed to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps. These speeds are
subject to change, in our reasonable discretion, in order to address network
issues."
-
"Accordingly, we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service,
without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in any
manner that adversely impacts our network or service levels, and we also
reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of the Customer
Agreement term."
This is from Verizon's 12/21/07 agreement.
The first thing that will start happening is that applications like Skype
will stop working over unlimited data plans. They can do that very easily
and I've read about it happening already in some locations. It wouldn't be
hard for them to limit network use to only a single computer if they wanted
to.
---=
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.
>> I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
>> the ability for multiple computers to share a single
>> cellular connection in the future.
>>
> ...is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
> suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
>
As wireless access expands, it starts adding real costs to the cellular
providers or else everyone's performance decreases (or gets terminated).
Because of this, all of the providers have started adding new provisions in
the agreement that you agree to but never read. For example, here are a
couple of goodies from Verizon's data card agreement (although I'm not
picking on them - all of them are doing this):
- "NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only"
- "While most common uses for Internet are permitted by your Data Plan,
there are certain uses that cause extreme network capacity issues and
interference with the network. These are not uses intended by our Data
Access plans and are therefore prohibited."
- "If usage exceeds 5 GB per line during any billing period, we reserve the
right to reduce throughput speeds of any application that would otherwise
exceed such speed to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps. These speeds are
subject to change, in our reasonable discretion, in order to address network
issues."
- "Accordingly, we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service,
without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in any
manner that adversely impacts our network or service levels, and we also
reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of the Customer
Agreement term."
This is from Verizon's 12/21/07 agreement.
The first thing that will start happening is that applications like Skype
will stop working over unlimited data plans. They can do that very easily
and I've read about it happening already in some locations. It wouldn't be
hard for them to limit network use to only a single computer if they wanted
to.
==================================
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.
SO
Stephen Offutt
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 5:39 PM
Mike,
Thanks, two great resources. I found replacements that work with the 5750
there and information about them on the forum.
Stephen
From: M Sharp [mailto:mikejsharp@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:24 AM
To: Stephen Offutt; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: RE: T&T: Air Card Wirless Router Search
I use a Lynksys WRT54G3G-ST with my Kyocera card and don't know it will
support your aircard but it's supposed to be compatible with many cards. You
might check that one out. Look here:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/873/63/
A good place to get information is
http://www.evdoforums.com/
You can search for your card or the various routers for information and post
questions there.
Mike,
Thanks, two great resources. I found replacements that work with the 5750
there and information about them on the forum.
Stephen
From: M Sharp [mailto:mikejsharp@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:24 AM
To: Stephen Offutt; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: RE: T&T: Air Card Wirless Router Search
I use a Lynksys WRT54G3G-ST with my Kyocera card and don't know it will
support your aircard but it's supposed to be compatible with many cards. You
might check that one out. Look here:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/873/63/
A good place to get information is
http://www.evdoforums.com/
You can search for your card or the various routers for information and post
questions there.
CO
Cole on Voyager
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 8:06 PM
Verizon has been the only carrier to slow your throughput or send you a
termination letter for high bandwidth usage.
Sprint has true "unlimited" data (so far). Sprint also has slightly
better high-speed EVDO coverage for data, Verizon has a little better
coverage for voice and the slower 1xRTT data connection. I have used
Sprint EVDO as my sole internet for a couple years now (with a KR-1
router and multiple computers). What I tell people asking for
recommendations is, use Sprint if they cover the areas you need to
travel, otherwise go with Verizon. I don't believe any of the other
carriers come even close to Sprint and Verizon for high speed coverage,
AT&T/Cingular is rolling out their HSPDA, but at is way behind the other
two.
Cole
Jeffrey Siegel wrote:
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
the ability for multiple computers to share a single
cellular connection in the future.
...is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
As wireless access expands, it starts adding real costs to the cellular
providers or else everyone's performance decreases (or gets terminated).
Because of this, all of the providers have started adding new provisions in
the agreement that you agree to but never read. For example, here are a
couple of goodies from Verizon's data card agreement (although I'm not
picking on them - all of them are doing this):
-
"NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only"
-
"While most common uses for Internet are permitted by your Data Plan,
there are certain uses that cause extreme network capacity issues and
interference with the network. These are not uses intended by our Data
Access plans and are therefore prohibited."
-
"If usage exceeds 5 GB per line during any billing period, we reserve the
right to reduce throughput speeds of any application that would otherwise
exceed such speed to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps. These speeds are
subject to change, in our reasonable discretion, in order to address network
issues."
-
"Accordingly, we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service,
without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in any
manner that adversely impacts our network or service levels, and we also
reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of the Customer
Agreement term."
This is from Verizon's 12/21/07 agreement.
The first thing that will start happening is that applications like Skype
will stop working over unlimited data plans. They can do that very easily
and I've read about it happening already in some locations. It wouldn't be
hard for them to limit network use to only a single computer if they wanted
to.
---=
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
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Verizon has been the only carrier to slow your throughput or send you a
termination letter for high bandwidth usage.
Sprint has true "unlimited" data (so far). Sprint also has slightly
better high-speed EVDO coverage for data, Verizon has a little better
coverage for voice and the slower 1xRTT data connection. I have used
Sprint EVDO as my sole internet for a couple years now (with a KR-1
router and multiple computers). What I tell people asking for
recommendations is, use Sprint if they cover the areas you need to
travel, otherwise go with Verizon. I don't believe any of the other
carriers come even close to Sprint and Verizon for high speed coverage,
AT&T/Cingular is rolling out their HSPDA, but at is way behind the other
two.
Cole
Jeffrey Siegel wrote:
>>> I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
>>> the ability for multiple computers to share a single
>>> cellular connection in the future.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>> ...is that speculation based on industry knowledge or a healthy
>> suspicion of corporate bean counter mentality?
>>
>>
>
> As wireless access expands, it starts adding real costs to the cellular
> providers or else everyone's performance decreases (or gets terminated).
> Because of this, all of the providers have started adding new provisions in
> the agreement that you agree to but never read. For example, here are a
> couple of goodies from Verizon's data card agreement (although I'm not
> picking on them - all of them are doing this):
>
> - "NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only"
>
> - "While most common uses for Internet are permitted by your Data Plan,
> there are certain uses that cause extreme network capacity issues and
> interference with the network. These are not uses intended by our Data
> Access plans and are therefore prohibited."
>
> - "If usage exceeds 5 GB per line during any billing period, we reserve the
> right to reduce throughput speeds of any application that would otherwise
> exceed such speed to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps. These speeds are
> subject to change, in our reasonable discretion, in order to address network
> issues."
>
> - "Accordingly, we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service,
> without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in any
> manner that adversely impacts our network or service levels, and we also
> reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of the Customer
> Agreement term."
>
>
> This is from Verizon's 12/21/07 agreement.
>
> The first thing that will start happening is that applications like Skype
> will stop working over unlimited data plans. They can do that very easily
> and I've read about it happening already in some locations. It wouldn't be
> hard for them to limit network use to only a single computer if they wanted
> to.
>
>
> ==================================
> Jeffrey Siegel
> M/V aCappella
> DeFever 53PH
> W1ACA/WDB4350
> Castine, Maine
>
> www.activecaptain.com
> Content, Communications, Community
>
>
>
>
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Bob Miller
Wed, Jan 2, 2008 11:32 PM
The latest version of the KR-1 firmware, version 1.10 and later, supports
the Verizon 5750, although the documentation doesn't mention the card. I
have been using it for several months without a problem.
Go to http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=KR%2D1 and
download version RK1.011 and load it into your KR-1 per the instructions.
You don't need to change cards.
Regards
Bob Miller
Loon Song
Anacortes, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Stephen Offutt
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:58 AM
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: T&T: Air Card Wirless Router Search
Last year I traded the old Verizon 5740 card in for the better 5750 card.
However, the KR-1 Wireless Router did not support the 5750 so I gave up
wireless on the boat.
Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the Verizon 5750 PCMCIA
card? I am currently swapping the card between computers which limits
internet connectivity to one at a time.
Any experience/ideas greatly appreciated.
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
361.244.4726
http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering
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The latest version of the KR-1 firmware, version 1.10 and later, supports
the Verizon 5750, although the documentation doesn't mention the card. I
have been using it for several months without a problem.
Go to http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=KR%2D1 and
download version RK1.011 and load it into your KR-1 per the instructions.
You don't need to change cards.
Regards
Bob Miller
Loon Song
Anacortes, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Stephen Offutt
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:58 AM
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: T&T: Air Card Wirless Router Search
Last year I traded the old Verizon 5740 card in for the better 5750 card.
However, the KR-1 Wireless Router did not support the 5750 so I gave up
wireless on the boat.
Has anyone found a wireless router to work with the Verizon 5750 PCMCIA
card? I am currently swapping the card between computers which limits
internet connectivity to one at a time.
Any experience/ideas greatly appreciated.
Stephen Offutt
M/Y Dutch Master
Currently lying: Goose Pond Colony Marina, NE Alabama
stephen@ourdutchmaster.com
361.244.4726
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Steven Dubnoff
Thu, Jan 3, 2008 4:58 PM
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
Sprint is the one wireless carrier that actually encourages the use
of the KR-1 Router. They also do not require a phone account along
with their data account. All in all, their terms of service are much
more friendly to the broadband user.
Best,
Steve
Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com
>I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop the ability for
>multiple computers to share a single cellular connection in the future.
Sprint is the one wireless carrier that actually encourages the use
of the KR-1 Router. They also do not require a phone account along
with their data account. All in all, their terms of service are much
more friendly to the broadband user.
Best,
Steve
Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Fri, Jan 4, 2008 2:21 PM
I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
the ability for multiple computers to share a single
cellular connection in the future.
Sprint is the one wireless carrier that actually encourages the use
of the KR-1 Router. They also do not require a phone account along
with their data account. All in all, their terms of service are much
more friendly to the broadband user.
Sprint has taken the lead in many of the digital capabilities. I think
they're the only ones that have commercials showing differences in data
downloads.
But...
They're going to protect their networks just like all of the other
companies. This is from the "Terms & Conditions" of Sprint's data plan
(http://tinyurl.com/yqsgkr):
"To protect our network, Services, or for other reasons, we may place
restrictions on accessing certain Data Content (such as certain websites,
applications, etc.), impose separate charges, limit throughput or the amount
of data you can transfer, or otherwise limit or terminate Services."
...and...
"We reserve the right to limit, suspend or constrain any heavy, continuous
data usage that adversely impacts our network performance or hinders access
to our network."
Again, there's nothing special about Sprint with this. ALL of the carriers
do this and will most certainly limit the ability for multiple laptops to
connect to a single mobile plan at the same time in the future. It's one of
those things to think about before purchasing multi-year plans and devices
for your boat.
---=
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.
>> I would expect the cellular carriers to attempt to stop
>> the ability for multiple computers to share a single
>> cellular connection in the future.
>
> Sprint is the one wireless carrier that actually encourages the use
> of the KR-1 Router. They also do not require a phone account along
> with their data account. All in all, their terms of service are much
> more friendly to the broadband user.
>
Sprint has taken the lead in many of the digital capabilities. I think
they're the only ones that have commercials showing differences in data
downloads.
But...
They're going to protect their networks just like all of the other
companies. This is from the "Terms & Conditions" of Sprint's data plan
(http://tinyurl.com/yqsgkr):
"To protect our network, Services, or for other reasons, we may place
restrictions on accessing certain Data Content (such as certain websites,
applications, etc.), impose separate charges, limit throughput or the amount
of data you can transfer, or otherwise limit or terminate Services."
...and...
"We reserve the right to limit, suspend or constrain any heavy, continuous
data usage that adversely impacts our network performance or hinders access
to our network."
Again, there's nothing special about Sprint with this. ALL of the carriers
do this and will most certainly limit the ability for multiple laptops to
connect to a single mobile plan at the same time in the future. It's one of
those things to think about before purchasing multi-year plans and devices
for your boat.
==================================
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
Content, Communications, Community
.