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GeorgGeist@aol.com

Sun, Mar 31, 2002 4:37 PM

In a message dated 3/31/02 10:07:28 AM, Awgertoo@aol.com writes:

<<I hope that someone on board the list has further advice or experience,
even
if only empirical, in dealing with this stuff. >>

I missed the beginning of this thread. However i too have black ooze in my
fuel. Right now it's too cold to mess with it (Canada). However my crud
started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel. Previously
I never added anything and never had a problem. Sofar the 2 Micron Racor has
kept the crud out of the engine. But I would sure like to get to the bottom
of all this and BTW a HEX on the guy who convinced me to use Biobor!

Happy Holidays -- George

In a message dated 3/31/02 10:07:28 AM, Awgertoo@aol.com writes: <<I hope that someone on board the list has further advice or experience, even if only empirical, in dealing with this stuff. >> I missed the beginning of this thread. However i too have black ooze in my fuel. Right now it's too cold to mess with it (Canada). However my crud started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel. Previously I never added anything and never had a problem. Sofar the 2 Micron Racor has kept the crud out of the engine. But I would sure like to get to the bottom of all this and BTW a HEX on the guy who convinced me to use Biobor! Happy Holidays -- George

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hknott4@comcast.net

Sun, Mar 31, 2002 5:02 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: GeorgGeist@aol.com
...However my crud

started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel.

Previously

I never added anything and never had a problem. Sofar the 2 Micron Racor

has

kept the crud out of the engine. But I would sure like to get to the

bottom

of all this and BTW a HEX on the guy who convinced me to use Biobor!

George,

The Biobor didn't cause the problem. The problem (heavy
infestation/colonization of bacteria) was already there. It would have
continued to grow and eventually "die off" causing your filters to plug.
The Biobor just caused the die off to occur now instead of later. I used
Biobor (and other biocides) for many years in my sailboat and continue to
use it regularly in my trawler and I believe I have prevented problem growth
from occurring. I switch biocides from time to time to prevent the bacteria
from acclimating.

Just my opinion and 2 cents worth. YMMV... :-)

Mel Knott
Sandpiper
Chris Craft West Indian 36 Trawler - about to begin her 20th season
Annapolis, Md

----- Original Message ----- From: <GeorgGeist@aol.com> ...However my crud > started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel. Previously > I never added anything and never had a problem. Sofar the 2 Micron Racor has > kept the crud out of the engine. But I would sure like to get to the bottom > of all this and BTW a HEX on the guy who convinced me to use Biobor! > George, The Biobor didn't cause the problem. The problem (heavy infestation/colonization of bacteria) was already there. It would have continued to grow and eventually "die off" causing your filters to plug. The Biobor just caused the die off to occur now instead of later. I used Biobor (and other biocides) for many years in my sailboat and continue to use it regularly in my trawler and I believe I have prevented problem growth from occurring. I switch biocides from time to time to prevent the bacteria from acclimating. Just my opinion and 2 cents worth. YMMV... :-) Mel Knott Sandpiper Chris Craft West Indian 36 Trawler - about to begin her 20th season Annapolis, Md

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capnrich@cnw.com

Sun, Mar 31, 2002 5:41 PM

However my crud
started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel.

George! And you are a long time listee.

The cautions against using additives and specifically BIOBOR come up every
year, outnumbered only by those who ignore the cautions and suffer the
consequences. DIesel should be left alone to do its work unaided by those of
us with not enough else to do but mess it up. If you are storing it more
than two years, maybe. If you know you have a water problem and are getting
by until you can fix it, maybe. If you live in Nome, maybe. Otherwise if
your system is working fine (most people) don't do anything to the fuel,
because anything you do will make it worse. Tend your filters religiously
(or at least by the vacuum gauges).
Richard

BTW the Easter Sturgeon visited our swimgrid today. Happy Easter to all who
observe.

>However my crud > started to develop last year after I added BIOBOR jr to my diesel. George! And you are a long time listee. The cautions against using additives and specifically BIOBOR come up every year, outnumbered only by those who ignore the cautions and suffer the consequences. DIesel should be left alone to do its work unaided by those of us with not enough else to do but mess it up. If you are storing it more than two years, maybe. If you know you have a water problem and are getting by until you can fix it, maybe. If you live in Nome, maybe. Otherwise if your system is working fine (most people) don't do anything to the fuel, because anything you do will make it worse. Tend your filters religiously (or at least by the vacuum gauges). Richard BTW the Easter Sturgeon visited our swimgrid today. Happy Easter to all who observe.

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hknott4@comcast.net

Mon, Apr 1, 2002 2:24 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" capnrich@cnw.com

The cautions against using additives and specifically BIOBOR come up every
year, outnumbered only by those who ignore the cautions and suffer the
consequences...

Like I said, the Biobor didn't cause the problem. The problem was already
there. The Biobor was just doing its job.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <capnrich@cnw.com> > > The cautions against using additives and specifically BIOBOR come up every > year, outnumbered only by those who ignore the cautions and suffer the > consequences... Like I said, the Biobor didn't cause the problem. The problem was already there. The Biobor was just doing its job.

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