Hi, do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? Uko

Yes it would be good and important. Now we can use their tools. Stef On 31 Jan 2015, at 13:11, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: > Hi, > > do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? > > Uko > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Who will be in charge of this? Paolo? Alexandre > Le 31 janv. 2015 à 11:12, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> a écrit : > > Yes it would be good and important. Now we can use their tools. > > Stef >> On 31 Jan 2015, at 13:11, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >> >> Uko >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. Stef > Hi, > > do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? > > Uko > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

I'm all in favor of submitting. Stephan Eggermont Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 9 feb. 2015 om 19:26 heeft stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. > > What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG > submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have > a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. > > Stef > > >> Hi, >> >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >> >> Uko >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

I'm in favor of a Pharo submission. Who could manage that ? Regards Sent from my iPhone > On 9 févr. 2015, at 19:32, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote: > > I'm all in favor of submitting. > > Stephan Eggermont > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > >> Op 9 feb. 2015 om 19:26 heeft stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >> >> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. James > On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. > > What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG > submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have > a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. > > Stef > > >> Hi, >> >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >> >> Uko >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Hi james > I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. I would have prefered a ESUG proposal especially since most of the projects are pharo ones :) and like that nobody can say that we are evil, nasty….;) But Yuriy met a GSOC woman at Fosdem and she said that we should show that there is some energy, momemtum, activities, …. So it is probably good to take the risk to get a pharo proposal to avoid the “should we fund a ‘cobol' Summer of Code”? (you know Smalltalk the language from the 80… what 35 five ago :) Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. Stef > James > >> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >> >> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas 03 59 57 78 50 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

- I do not want to hear about GSOC.
- I do not want to get insulted as in the past.
- I updated the pharo topics available in the github repo
	https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals
and I will not do anything else.

BTW: let me be really clear about this GSOC 2015 stuff. - I do not want to hear about GSOC. - I do not want to get insulted as in the past. - I updated the pharo topics available in the github repo https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals and I will not do anything else. I have set up a filter that trashes automatically any email about GSOC. I hope that I’m clear about it and you do not imagine how I got impacted in the past so I learned my own lesson: NEVER AGAIN. Stef On 11 Feb 2015, at 18:18, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > Hi james > >> I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. > > I would have prefered a ESUG proposal especially since most of the projects are pharo ones :) and like that nobody can say that > we are evil, nasty….;) > But Yuriy met a GSOC woman at Fosdem and she said that we should show that there is some energy, momemtum, activities, …. > So it is probably good to take the risk to get a pharo proposal to avoid the “should we fund a ‘cobol' Summer of Code”? (you know Smalltalk > the language from the 80… what 35 five ago :) > Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. > > Stef > > >> James >> >>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >>> >>> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >>> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >>> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>>> >>>> Uko >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > 03 59 57 78 50 > 03 59 35 86 16 > > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas 03 59 57 78 50 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Hi James & Stef, James wrote: >I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an >overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some >effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. I would prefer Esug to be the sponsoring organization. >Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, >these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. We are not unique in getting rejected every few years. Ruby on Rails didn't get selected in 2012. There are many more requests than available slots. Last year, Janko ruined our chances of getting selected. GSoC is supposed to be good for Google's image. Having a loose cannon as organizer is unacceptable, and something we couldn't solve in time. Stephan