Storm panels over saloon windows
I'm currently provisioning my N40 for an extended journey. One of the
saloon storage areas is currently occupied with the storm panels for the
saloon windows. Since my route is predominantly coastal with limited
offshore exposure, should I consider removing the storm panels from the
boat? It would free up considerable storage room for provisions and spares.
My thought was that they only help me if they are installed and I don't see
myself making any trips of enough exposure that I would depart with them in
place.
An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
Considered opinions on the frequency of use and access requirements for
storm panels would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA
Scott,
When I left California two years ago across the Pacific, I did not have
any storm panels, and in fact had never even considered adding them. My
plan was to avoid any possibility of ever needing them, and the plan
actually worked - all the way to Australia.
Just my US$0.02
Paul Goyette
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Scott Bulger wrote:
I'm currently provisioning my N40 for an extended journey. One of the
saloon storage areas is currently occupied with the storm panels for the
saloon windows. Since my route is predominantly coastal with limited
offshore exposure, should I consider removing the storm panels from the
boat? It would free up considerable storage room for provisions and spares.
My thought was that they only help me if they are installed and I don't see
myself making any trips of enough exposure that I would depart with them in
place.
An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
Considered opinions on the frequency of use and access requirements for
storm panels would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA
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This sounds like a good solution, but another is to just put them on. Are
they opaque? I guess that they are not. It is my impression that the
Atlantic side of the Panama Canal is not benign. By the time you find out
the weather is going bad, is it too late to mount them? Have you tried one
in port?
Ron Rogers
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From: "Scott Bulger" scottebulger@gmail.com
| An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
| them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
I would keep them aboard from WA to the FL Keys. Once on the East Coast you
just don't need them for Bermuda or the ICW. WX forecasting on this side
will allow to plan the short passages over here where you can avoid using
them.
However as a wise man mentioned on this list in the past week, plans change.
You may find yourself realizing that you did the Pacific Coast, so leaping
over to the Med is no big deal.
-- Jim Ague
Will they fit on top of the boat, covered by sunbrella up there? You'll
probably never use them, but the day you get rid of them is the day you'll
need them. Murphy's law has that way you know. If you keep them, of course
you will never need them at all. Up top is out of the way and not taking
up deck space.
Dang you have me envious reading your posts. I do hope you find you way to
the Tampa area.
Alan
Alan F. Wagner
Wagner, Vaughan, McLaughlin & Brennan
601 Bayshore Boulevard; Ste 910
Tampa, Florida 33606
www.WagnerLaw.com
-------Original Message-------
From: Scott Bulger
Date: 7/24/2007 10:41:12 AM
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: [PUP] Storm panels over saloon windows
I'm currently provisioning my N40 for an extended journey. One of the
saloon storage areas is currently occupied with the storm panels for the
saloon windows. Since my route is predominantly coastal with limited
offshore exposure, should I consider removing the storm panels from the
boat? It would free up considerable storage room for provisions and spares.
My thought was that they only help me if they are installed and I don't see
myself making any trips of enough exposure that I would depart with them in
place.
An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
Considered opinions on the frequency of use and access requirements for
storm panels would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA
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Scott:
I have storm covers for our Selene 50's windows. I've actually used them
even when it wasn't for storms--we had a window shatter on us a couple of
years ago when the window had been damaged but didn't break until later when
my wife was sliding it closed. I'm a firm believer in having them aboard. We
store ours in a rack against a bulkhead in the lazarette.
I've done many ocean sailboat races and the regulations that govern these
races require storm window covers. Here's the language of the PIYA
requirements:
"Where windows exceed two sq. ft. in area or where the least dimension
exceeds 9 inches, covers of strength equal to 3/8= minimum thickness plywood
shall be carried aboard for all such windows. One set will serve either side
of yacht."
These rules apply to Category 0 and Category 1 events. Category 0 events are
ocean-crossing events, such as the San Francisco to Hawaii races. Category 1
events are coastal ocean races, such as the race from the mouth of the
Columbia River to Victoria BC. Sounds like what you'll be doing is primarily
what would be considered "Category 1" types of passages.
These requirements have been developed from experience. While they are
intended for ocean racing sailboats and some of the requirements obviously
wouldn't apply to a power driven vessel, they are none the less a very
useful guideline for preparing a boat for sea. Here's a link to the PIYA
requirements.
http://www.ussailing.net/piya/new/2006PIYACertificate.pdf
I hope this helps....
Mark Tilden
Selene 50 "Koinonia"
(and a Selene 59 on order!)
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Subject: [PUP] Storm panels over saloon windows
I'm currently provisioning my N40 for an extended journey. One of the
saloon storage areas is currently occupied with the storm panels for the
saloon windows. Since my route is predominantly coastal with limited
offshore exposure, should I consider removing the storm panels from the
boat? It would free up considerable storage room for provisions and spares.
My thought was that they only help me if they are installed and I don't see
myself making any trips of enough exposure that I would depart with them in
place.
An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
Considered opinions on the frequency of use and access requirements for
storm panels would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA
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Scott,
We have ours on a rack and they don't take up much space. I would not
consider taking them off ever. Some of the roughest weather that I
have encountered has been coastal and not mid ocean.
Chris
Goleen N57
On 7/24/07, Scott Bulger scottebulger@gmail.com wrote:
I'm currently provisioning my N40 for an extended journey. One of the
saloon storage areas is currently occupied with the storm panels for the
saloon windows. Since my route is predominantly coastal with limited
offshore exposure, should I consider removing the storm panels from the
boat? It would free up considerable storage room for provisions and spares.
My thought was that they only help me if they are installed and I don't see
myself making any trips of enough exposure that I would depart with them in
place.
An alternative to removing them from the boat is to build a rack to hold
them on the boat deck, then cover them with sunbrella.
Considered opinions on the frequency of use and access requirements for
storm panels would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA
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