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Arthur Dent

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 2:20 AM

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
“…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to
connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….”

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
“I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin
connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a
way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect
process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have
it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them
played nice without the slave being present….”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it….

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014
“…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of
these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person
who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and
it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply
-see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence
on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….”

-Arthur

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net “…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….” Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org “I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them played nice without the slave being present….” ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it…. Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 “…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….” -Arthur

BS

Bob Stewart

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 4:41 AM

Hi Arthur,
Now that you mention it, yes, I do remember your post. Thanks for the reminder!

Bob
From: Arthur Dent golgarfrincham@gmail.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
“…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to
connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….”

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
“I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin
connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a
way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect
process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have
it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them
played nice without the slave being present….”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it….

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014
“…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of
these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person
who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and
it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply
-see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence
on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….”

-Arthur

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Hi Arthur, Now that you mention it, yes, I do remember your post. Thanks for the reminder! Bob From: Arthur Dent <golgarfrincham@gmail.com> To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net “…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….” Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org “I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them played nice without the slave being present….” ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it…. Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 “…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….” -Arthur _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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Mike Seguin

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 11:42 AM

Hi Arthur,

Found your original picture/post. TNX!

http://s906.photobucket.com/user/rjb1998/media/RFTG-uREF1photo1_zps87c505ca.jpg.html

Would you share what you did for a 5 MHz buffer?

Mike

On 10/31/2014 10:20 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
“…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to
connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….”

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
“I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin
connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a
way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect
process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have
it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them
played nice without the slave being present….”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it….

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014
“…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of
these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person
who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and
it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply
-see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence
on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….”

-Arthur

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--

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

Hi Arthur, Found your original picture/post. TNX! http://s906.photobucket.com/user/rjb1998/media/RFTG-uREF1photo1_zps87c505ca.jpg.html Would you share what you did for a 5 MHz buffer? Mike On 10/31/2014 10:20 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: > Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net > “…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to > connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….” > > Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org > “I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin > connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a > way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect > process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have > it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them > played nice without the slave being present….” > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it…. > > Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 > “…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of > these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person > who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and > it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply > -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence > on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….” > > -Arthur > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet"

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Anthony Roby

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:52 PM

For those who missed it, Arthur's post is at https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2010-June/047825.html and the photo is at http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/RFTG-uREF1photo1_zps87c505ca.jpg

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Dent
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
?? ? I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby ? . ??

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
??I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them played nice without the slave being present ? . ??
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it ? .

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 ?? ? Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all ? . ??

-Arthur

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For those who missed it, Arthur's post is at https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2010-June/047825.html and the photo is at http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/RFTG-uREF1photo1_zps87c505ca.jpg Anthony -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Dent Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net ?? ? I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby ? . ?? Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org ??I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them played nice without the slave being present ? . ?? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it ? . Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 ?? ? Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all ? . ?? -Arthur _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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Bob Camp

Sat, Nov 1, 2014 1:12 PM

Hi

On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Arthur Dent golgarfrincham@gmail.com wrote:

Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net
“…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to
connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….”

Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org
“I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin
connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a
way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect
process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have
it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them
played nice without the slave being present….”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it….

Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014
“…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of
these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person
who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and
it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply
-see photo)

It’s the “see photo” part that I was having a hard time with. For what ever reason, the link in your original post did not work for me.

Bob

allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence
on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….”

-Arthur

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Hi > On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Arthur Dent <golgarfrincham@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bob Stewart bob at evoria.net > “…I have both of my units sitting on the bench. I found that I needed to > connect them together to get the REF1 unit to come out of standby….” > > Bob Camp kb8tq at n1k.org > “I suspect that somebody will have to figure out what the 15 pin > connector / jumper is doing. On previous RFTG units there was a > way to re-wire the crossover interface to fake out the slave detect > process. That would let you run a single GPS equipped box and have > it behave correctly. Without the fake wires trick none of them > played nice without the slave being present….” > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Reposting what I had posted over a week ago, in case you missed it…. > > Arthur Dent golgarfrincham at gmail.com Wed Oct 22 13:59:48 EDT 2014 > “…Way back on Fri Jun 11 16:48:43 UTC 2010 I posted about using one of > these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person > who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and > it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply > -see photo) It’s the “see photo” part that I was having a hard time with. For what ever reason, the link in your original post did not work for me. Bob > allows the lights to cycle through their normal sequence > on warm-up and the second unit isn't needed at all….” > > -Arthur > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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Mike Seguin

Sun, Nov 16, 2014 7:30 PM

I was having some problems with a couple of my laptops running WinXP and
Win7 64 bit getting them to use Z38xx or SatStat50 to talk to the boxes.
I was using the 'RS-232 hack'. I suspected the levels weren't up to the
standard my laptop ports wanted to see.

I pulled out an old "short haul" modem I had which is an RS-232 to
RS-422 converter. Wired it this way:

Lucent to Modem
TX+ to RX-
TX- to RX+
RX+ to TX-
RX- to TX+

Works great! No issues with the laptops/software now through Win7 64 bit.

Mike

--

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

I was having some problems with a couple of my laptops running WinXP and Win7 64 bit getting them to use Z38xx or SatStat50 to talk to the boxes. I was using the 'RS-232 hack'. I suspected the levels weren't up to the standard my laptop ports wanted to see. I pulled out an old "short haul" modem I had which is an RS-232 to RS-422 converter. Wired it this way: Lucent to Modem TX+ to RX- TX- to RX+ RX+ to TX- RX- to TX+ Works great! No issues with the laptops/software now through Win7 64 bit. Mike -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet"

BC

Bob Camp

Sun, Nov 16, 2014 8:35 PM

Hi

Assuming all the pins are labeled correctly and your UART is not set up for an inverted input - that should not work. Since it does work, I’d bet on there being a labeling error somewhere.

Bob

On Nov 16, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Mike Seguin n1jez@burlingtontelecom.net wrote:

I was having some problems with a couple of my laptops running WinXP and Win7 64 bit getting them to use Z38xx or SatStat50 to talk to the boxes. I was using the 'RS-232 hack'. I suspected the levels weren't up to the standard my laptop ports wanted to see.

I pulled out an old "short haul" modem I had which is an RS-232 to RS-422 converter. Wired it this way:

Lucent to Modem
TX+ to RX-
TX- to RX+
RX+ to TX-
RX- to TX+

Works great! No issues with the laptops/software now through Win7 64 bit.

Mike

--

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

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Hi Assuming all the pins are labeled correctly and your UART is not set up for an inverted input - that should not work. Since it does work, I’d bet on there being a labeling error somewhere. Bob > On Nov 16, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Mike Seguin <n1jez@burlingtontelecom.net> wrote: > > I was having some problems with a couple of my laptops running WinXP and Win7 64 bit getting them to use Z38xx or SatStat50 to talk to the boxes. I was using the 'RS-232 hack'. I suspected the levels weren't up to the standard my laptop ports wanted to see. > > I pulled out an old "short haul" modem I had which is an RS-232 to RS-422 converter. Wired it this way: > > Lucent to Modem > TX+ to RX- > TX- to RX+ > RX+ to TX- > RX- to TX+ > > Works great! No issues with the laptops/software now through Win7 64 bit. > > Mike > > -- > > 73, > Mike, N1JEZ > "A closed mouth gathers no feet" > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system